I don't think you drop equestrian or any other women's sports. You would think that the scholarships are currently even or close to it. Add beach and you could afford to add extra men's scholarships in every sport we currently have….you would think that would help every mens sport if you have that flexibility
Woman's Beach Volleyball Team
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she'd stay here likely if we had beach..BQ_90 said:Aston04 said:laugh it up ...LB12Diamond said:
LOL
Always love the threat posts such as this.
In meantime there goes hellmuth...
So what, she's outta indoor eligibility
Bigger picture of not having beach volleyball is will impact indoor teams..
Thankfully we have an amazing coach.. if we need it to be support indoor, i bet he gets trev on board over time....
That's why LSU regular VB is so great, right?
Gig ‘Em Baby!
Our local high school built a sand court for offseason. Not really sure what the benefits are...
Some guesses:
1. learn to play scrappier - need to be able to get any ball up and in a good location; one armed digs
2. endurance
3. fun diversion while still playing vball
Some guesses:
1. learn to play scrappier - need to be able to get any ball up and in a good location; one armed digs
2. endurance
3. fun diversion while still playing vball
It would be great to add beach, but it has very little impact on indoor.
Beach VB
Develops all around players, there is no position or specialization. The court is smaller 8mx8m versus 9mx9m, making you hit a smaller target on serves and attacks. Almost no masking of the attack instead you mask the defense. Helps develop reading. Is less impactful on the body, while improving S&C….great work strengthening ankles. Helps Develop not typical touches in general all of which are legal indoors.
An indoor player goes to the beach and thinks the net is 3-5" higher, while a beach player goes indoors and thinks the net is 3-5" lower.
Someone mentioned 1 arm digs, they are becoming more and more mainstream indoor. Check out Dustin at Noezybuckets.
Develops all around players, there is no position or specialization. The court is smaller 8mx8m versus 9mx9m, making you hit a smaller target on serves and attacks. Almost no masking of the attack instead you mask the defense. Helps develop reading. Is less impactful on the body, while improving S&C….great work strengthening ankles. Helps Develop not typical touches in general all of which are legal indoors.
An indoor player goes to the beach and thinks the net is 3-5" higher, while a beach player goes indoors and thinks the net is 3-5" lower.
Someone mentioned 1 arm digs, they are becoming more and more mainstream indoor. Check out Dustin at Noezybuckets.
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Aston04 said:she'd stay here likely if we had beach..BQ_90 said:Aston04 said:laugh it up ...LB12Diamond said:
LOL
Always love the threat posts such as this.
In meantime there goes hellmuth...
So what, she's outta indoor eligibility
Bigger picture of not having beach volleyball is will impact indoor teams..
Thankfully we have an amazing coach.. if we need it to be support indoor, i bet he gets trev on board over time....
I bet we don't add any sport in the five years. It's too costly to add another money losing program. Trev is more worried about that.
Unless there is some major court change that settles down NIL, you still have to give full scholarships and rev sharing will continue to go up.
It will take somebody or a group willing to donated tens of millions before another sport is added.
I'm afraid you might see some schools,start cutting programs
our coach is far better.LB12Diamond said:
That's why LSU regular VB is so great, right?
Just bc one program has an advantage with facilities or complementary beach volleyball team, doesn't by default make them better. But I didn't need to explain that to you ..
Lack of beach volleyball obviously doesn't help. Akin to tennis not having indoor courts. And yet a&m still won a national championship in each. It can be overcome through great coaching. Also, beach volleyball is an up and coming sport.(Still) Not having it down the road will mean more then than now.
Having beach volleyball would also help with building our fan base.. which would help indoor as well..
Edits- suck at typing on my phone.
Two years before winning it all the tennis team did lose in the elite 8 because the outdoor match was played indoors.
Aston04 said:LB12Diamond said:
That's why LSU regular VB is so great, right?
our coach is far better.
Just bc one program has an advantage with facilities or complementary beach volleyball team, doesn't by default make them better. But I didn't need to explain that to you ..
Lack of beach volleyball obviously doesn't help. Akin to tennis not having indoor courts. And yet a&m still won a national championship in each. It can be overcome through great coaching. Also, beach volleyball is an up and coming sport.(Still) Not having it down the road will mean more then than now.
Having beach volleyball would also help with building our fan base.. which would help indoor as well..
Edits- suck at typing on my phone.
First of all let's not get it twisted. I fully agree that having a beach team would be a positive for indoor volleyball (and to a lesser extent, Aggie Athletics in general) for all the reasons you and others have mentioned. Also, I think of Achane and maybe he doesn't come here if we don't have T&F and there has been some crossover in other sports as well, but...
Not having beach is totally different than tennis not having indoor courts. That is a huge disadvantage in THAT sport. We are the only SEC school that does not have indoor courts. It would be more like T&F not having an indoor facility, which is something that would directly impact their success in their own sport.
But like you said, that didn't stop tennis from winning a championship and since they were not rewarded with the basic minimum expectation of an SEC program by having indoors built (which is a one-time 25-30 year expense), I doubt the volleyball natty is going to move the needle enough to make an even bigger big yearly ongoing expense.
The bottom line is that Aggie Athletics is a business and our "POSIWID" to make money. If these money-losing sports can win national championships with what they've got, there's very little incentive (from a business perspective) to give them more.
Anchorhold said:
Two years before winning it all the tennis team did lose in the elite 8 because the outdoor match was played indoors.
Yes, but the indoor volleyball team is never going to lose a match because we don't have a beach team.
Harry Dunne said:Aston04 said:LB12Diamond said:
That's why LSU regular VB is so great, right?
our coach is far better.
Just bc one program has an advantage with facilities or complementary beach volleyball team, doesn't by default make them better. But I didn't need to explain that to you ..
Lack of beach volleyball obviously doesn't help. Akin to tennis not having indoor courts. And yet a&m still won a national championship in each. It can be overcome through great coaching. Also, beach volleyball is an up and coming sport.(Still) Not having it down the road will mean more then than now.
Having beach volleyball would also help with building our fan base.. which would help indoor as well..
Edits- suck at typing on my phone.
First of all let's not get it twisted. I fully agree that having a beach team would be a positive for indoor volleyball (and to a lesser extent, Aggie Athletics in general) for all the reasons you and others have mentioned. Also, I think of Achane and maybe he doesn't come here if we don't have T&F and there has been some crossover in other sports as well, but...
Not having beach is totally different than tennis not having indoor courts. That is a huge disadvantage in THAT sport. We are the only SEC school that does not have indoor courts. It would be more like T&F not having an indoor facility, which is something that would directly impact their success in their own sport.
But like you said, that didn't stop tennis from winning a championship and since they were not rewarded with the basic minimum expectation of an SEC program by having indoors built (which is a one-time 25-30 year expense), I doubt the volleyball natty is going to move the needle enough to make an even bigger big yearly ongoing expense.
The bottom line is that Aggie Athletics is a business and our "POSIWID" to make money. If these money-losing sports can win national championships with what they've got, there's very little incentive (from a business perspective) to give them more.
I do agree that tennis not having indoor is a far bigger issue.
They've been talking about building them since I was a student. Nuts.
Aston04 said:Harry Dunne said:Aston04 said:LB12Diamond said:
That's why LSU regular VB is so great, right?
our coach is far better.
Just bc one program has an advantage with facilities or complementary beach volleyball team, doesn't by default make them better. But I didn't need to explain that to you ..
Lack of beach volleyball obviously doesn't help. Akin to tennis not having indoor courts. And yet a&m still won a national championship in each. It can be overcome through great coaching. Also, beach volleyball is an up and coming sport.(Still) Not having it down the road will mean more then than now.
Having beach volleyball would also help with building our fan base.. which would help indoor as well..
Edits- suck at typing on my phone.
First of all let's not get it twisted. I fully agree that having a beach team would be a positive for indoor volleyball (and to a lesser extent, Aggie Athletics in general) for all the reasons you and others have mentioned. Also, I think of Achane and maybe he doesn't come here if we don't have T&F and there has been some crossover in other sports as well, but...
Not having beach is totally different than tennis not having indoor courts. That is a huge disadvantage in THAT sport. We are the only SEC school that does not have indoor courts. It would be more like T&F not having an indoor facility, which is something that would directly impact their success in their own sport.
But like you said, that didn't stop tennis from winning a championship and since they were not rewarded with the basic minimum expectation of an SEC program by having indoors built (which is a one-time 25-30 year expense), I doubt the volleyball natty is going to move the needle enough to make an even bigger big yearly ongoing expense.
The bottom line is that Aggie Athletics is a business and our "POSIWID" to make money. If these money-losing sports can win national championships with what they've got, there's very little incentive (from a business perspective) to give them more.
I do agree that tennis not having indoor is a far bigger issue.
They've been talking about building them since I was a student. Nuts.
Well,I don't understand what happened with the deal,between Bryan and the AD to us the one the city was willing to build
Doesn't seem to me the public entities in this town can't seem to work together very well
BQ_90 said:Aston04 said:Harry Dunne said:Aston04 said:LB12Diamond said:
That's why LSU regular VB is so great, right?
our coach is far better.
Just bc one program has an advantage with facilities or complementary beach volleyball team, doesn't by default make them better. But I didn't need to explain that to you ..
Lack of beach volleyball obviously doesn't help. Akin to tennis not having indoor courts. And yet a&m still won a national championship in each. It can be overcome through great coaching. Also, beach volleyball is an up and coming sport.(Still) Not having it down the road will mean more then than now.
Having beach volleyball would also help with building our fan base.. which would help indoor as well..
Edits- suck at typing on my phone.
First of all let's not get it twisted. I fully agree that having a beach team would be a positive for indoor volleyball (and to a lesser extent, Aggie Athletics in general) for all the reasons you and others have mentioned. Also, I think of Achane and maybe he doesn't come here if we don't have T&F and there has been some crossover in other sports as well, but...
Not having beach is totally different than tennis not having indoor courts. That is a huge disadvantage in THAT sport. We are the only SEC school that does not have indoor courts. It would be more like T&F not having an indoor facility, which is something that would directly impact their success in their own sport.
But like you said, that didn't stop tennis from winning a championship and since they were not rewarded with the basic minimum expectation of an SEC program by having indoors built (which is a one-time 25-30 year expense), I doubt the volleyball natty is going to move the needle enough to make an even bigger big yearly ongoing expense.
The bottom line is that Aggie Athletics is a business and our "POSIWID" to make money. If these money-losing sports can win national championships with what they've got, there's very little incentive (from a business perspective) to give them more.
I do agree that tennis not having indoor is a far bigger issue.
They've been talking about building them since I was a student. Nuts.
Well,I don't understand what happened with the deal,between Bryan and the AD to us the one the city was willing to build
Doesn't seem to me the public entities in this town can't seem to work together very well
Yeah, wasn't it announced? And then kind of quietly canceled?
BQ_90 said:
Well,I don't understand what happened with the deal,between Bryan and the AD to us the one the city was willing to build
Doesn't seem to me the public entities in this town can't seem to work together very well
I think the construction cost estimates were going up and both parties were getting nervous about the total cost of the project. I don't know much about the Bryan side but I think our AD was worried about what the upcoming House settlement was going to do to the budget and fundraising efforts. I don't think the new AD really wanted to commit the original amount for that facility that the old AD agreed to anyways and the rising cost estimates gave him an easy exit excuse.
Hopefully as our school gets used to the new normal of athletic scholarship/nil costs we can get an indoor tennis facility built (But, it has taken so long; at this point, I'll believe it only when there are shovels in the ground).
I think Trev killed it. I guess the terms didn't suit him or didn't benefit A&M enough
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