I called it. (Not on Texags) never underestimate a fighter with nothing to lose.

..or one that doesn't respect his opponent's skills...

Silva's head hasn't been in it. Needed a wake up call for a while now... but he may just retire.

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Silva's head hasn't been in it. Needed a wake up call for a while now... but he may just retire.

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Still needs the $....silva not getting Boxing, NBA, MLB, or NFL $.

Heading into this fight it was estimated that he had only earned $2.8 million in the ring, not including sponsorships or fight bonuses.

His net worth is estimated at $10 million, which isn't a ton for someone who is widely considered the best in his sport.

[This message has been edited by Dre06 (edited 7/7/2013 12:06a).]

It's a ****ing joke what UFC pays its fighters. They need to collectively bargain if they ever want a fair shake.

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Still needs the $....silva not getting Boxing, NBA, MLB, or NFL $.

Heading into this fight it was estimated that he had only earned $2.8 million in the ring, not including sponsorships or fight bonuses.

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Silva's made that in show and bonus money, but there's no way that includes his PPV share. Guys like Silva, GSP, Bones Jones generally make about 10% of the Zuffa's net on PPV's as well as other behind the scene incentives paid by Zuffa to take a fight. For instance, Silva's listed pay is at $200k per the NV athletic commission. Rumor is Zuffa paid him $2MM to accept the fight beyond that. Beyond that, the UFC usually nets about a quarter of the proceeds of all PPV buys in profit.

Most marquee fighters would be paid a PPV bonus in that situation of:

925000 (Silva/Sonnen rematch buyrate) * 45 (PPV cost) * .25 (UFC take) * .1 (their take) = $1.04MM

In short, just for the second Sonnen fight, Silva made between 2.25 and 3.25 MM before his Nike and Burger King sponsorships. In reality, he's made much more than $2.8MM over his career on just fights and I guarantee you his net worth is more than $10MM. The MMA fighters benefit a great deal from the structure of the organization of hiding their actual net worth. That said, they are still paid way less than comparable boxers obviously. That said:

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2 factors there. One is that there simply isn't as much money in MMA as there is in boxing. 2nd is the reason the Mayweathers, Pacquiaos, and other fighters of the world make so much money is that they are throwing up 4 to 5 figures of their OWN money to promote the fight along with their promoters. As such, they generally share the gate and a much larger share of the PPV money. The fighters actually take on much of the risk of the event whereas Zuffa brunts all of it on their shoulders.

If GSP and Silva and the other fighters shared in the upfront investment, they'd probably see closer to 5 figures a fight vs. 1-3 MM a fight.

[This message has been edited by ATM9000 (edited 7/7/2013 10:33a).]

Well said ATM. Top level UFC guys make a lot more money than most people think. Silva doesnt have a 30 person hanger on entourage to feed like Mayweather does. He has plenty of money.

Boxers are putting up 5,6,7 million of their money through their promotional companies. If they don't, you have bullshat bids from the Don Kings of the world.

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I'm not as concerned about Anderson or GSP getting paid as I am guys on the undercard getting $8k for a fight. The revenue distribution between the UFC and the fighters should be at least 50/50.

Undercard pay differences are not that different between boxing and MMA. Your 8K number is generally for the first fight of a card for first timers, etc and most PPV boxing cards have similar low paid fighters.

This is a little older thread on sherdog that compares UFC PPV undercards and payouts to the bigger PPV boxing undercards of the same time period. The point is there isn't much difference.

http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f2/basic-statistics-boxing-versus-ufc-undercard-pay-1973389/index2.html

The point of my original post was that pay is a weird thing in combat sports specifically in a company like UFC where promotion is sponsored and funded 100% by the UFC vs. co-promoted with a marquee fighter's company. It is hard to gauge what any undercard fighter really makes because there is a huge difference between actual pay and 'purse'. NSAC numbers are their purse. Even with undercard fighters, I'd be surprised if any of them were paid in total less than $30k or so a fight by the Zuffa in some way, shape, or form if they are on any sort of TV card.

To 50% of the revenue going to the fighter in the UFC, that's absurd in my opinion given the business structure. I think you are trying to compare it to boxing, but like I said before, being that no fighter is putting up their own cash to promote the event, I think it is hard to argue that the fighters should be compensated similar to a boxer.

That said, when you consider all PPV bonuses and other bonuses and salary paid not reported to NSAC, I think many would be shocked at how close fighter pay would be to that 50% revenue number.

[This message has been edited by ATM9000 (edited 7/7/2013 4:48p).]

i can't imagine how badly an attempt by MMA fighters to unionize would fail