Got Questions About Soccer (Footy)? Get them Answered!

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aggiebird02
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Echiro IS an athlete, but I bet mini-me's stunt double is too. Echiro is a big-time pro sport athlete, and doesn't look like Ray Lewis or Shaq.

You made my point for me. That you don't have to be a mountain of man to be a truly great pro athlete. So for the same people to cheer these baseball players and at the sametime say soccer is for the weak and unathletic is a bit ignorant and hypocritical.
TexasA&M
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I agree with you and I think that soccer players are exceptional athletes. Comparing athletes from different sports is hard though because each one trains entirely different for his particular sport. The question is which sport requires the most overall athletic ability? That is debatable.
Killer-K 89
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The nice thing about futbol is that when you get tired you can rest on the bench for a minute or two and take some oxygen.

Wait a minute!! That is all the other sports.

45 and 45. No rest for the wicked.
walton91
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I like how the dummies that say this hit the golf course every weekend. Soccer is from England, I guess that's entirely different from golf being from Scotland though

That is a good point but golf pretty much has been owned by American golfers since the 20's: Hagen, Jones, Hogan, Nelson, Snead, Palmer, Nicklaus, Tiger. It's not exactly the same as trying to get an American audience to accept a game that has not had much presence in this country, professionally speaking.

Now, my problem with soccer is this. This is not a slam, just my frustration trying to watch it. I went to a WC game in Dallas (Spain v Korea) and was amazed at the passing and strategy that don't get shown on tv cuz the dang field is so big. In person when a player boots the ball downfield you can see the player he is passing to cutting to the ball, on tv its just a guy clearing the ball. IMO Soccer doesn't translate well on tv.

When I watch a game I find myself yelling "shoot" all the time. It seems like shots on goal only come when the ball has advanced well into the penalty box. Hockey has the slapshot from the point, basketball has the 3 pt shot, football the long run or throw, baseball the home run. There is no slapshot from the top of the penalty box in soccer (at least its pretty infrequent). When the ball is being advanced almost to the penalty box I am looking for shots and the shots don't come. There is probably good reason for that but as a fan I see action in the middle 80% of the field that has NO CHANCE of resulting in a score. Basketball, hockey, football, baseball all have scoring that can happen at virtually any part of the field of play. Hockey & Basketball less but the court/ice is small enough to allow advancing quickly that will result in a score. Soccer doesn't have that. When I see guys battling for possesion at midfield, why do I care? The ball changes possession so much it seems like useless action unless they are deep in the opponent's field. That keeps my interest very limited.

09Ag
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How does the point system work (3 pts for a W, 0 for a loss, what about a draw)? And what is offsides?

[This message has been edited by 09Ag (edited 6/10/2006 12:33p).]
Dre_00
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1 point for a draw.

Offsides goes like this...

Any attacking player can not be behind the last defender when the ball is passed to him. He must either be in front of him or equal with him.

[This message has been edited by Dre_00 (edited 6/10/2006 12:35p).]
birdman
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Walton - you're right about "seeing whole play develop". It's better in person. But I think soccer translates better on television that football. Camera is zoomed in too much for me on football.

Basically, the offsides rule prevents people from cherry picking. If you've ever played hoops at YMCA, you know what I'm talking about.
aggiebird02
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Walton, I don't like not being able to see things develope out of the tv screen too. I solved this by buying a 42 inch flat screen plasma tv and getting HD (not bragging, just giddy, I've never owned anything so over the top or as nice). (ok maybe alittle bragging, but the wife and I have been getting all our college debt down to nothing, and thought we deserved something nice, and the World Cup was the perfect excuse)

It worked you can see half the field in one shot, but at the same time still have soo much detail that you can just about read the names on the back of the jeresys! INCREDIBLE! (of course anything looks good in HD so even if one didn't like soccer, they'd still watch it )

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Otto
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Does anyone know where i could find a listing of the team rankings?
Dre_00
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http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,All-May-2006,00.html
birdman
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Here the rankings according to FIFA. Just like college football rankings, they aren't perfect but give you a pretty good idea.

http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,All-May-2006,00.html
Otto
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Thanks Dre and Birdman, really appreciate it!
ColoradoMooseHerd
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If you are going to talk North America soccer, how can you not refer to Mexico and you only talk abou thte US. You do realize that Mexico is a seeded team and we are not?
Dre_00
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Because I hate Mexico (the national team...not the country or the people)

Should I talk incessentally about t.u.? There the ones with a MNC, not us.
ColoradoMooseHerd
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If the top is about the best teams in North America, Mexico should be a hot topic. I did not call you out, Strongwhatever was the first to leave them out.

If you were talking about the Best teams in the Big XII South, I would assume you would talk about Texas.
aggiebird02
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Mexico has the seed, but we are the better team. Look at the overall record the past 7 years or so. Look at the last 2 years. LOOK AT THE LAST WORLD CUP!!! 2-0

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MookieBlaylock
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AG
why does Mexico suck so bad but get a better draw than the US?

PatAg
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we sucked longer, and the ranking take in the past 2-3 world cups for some reason
Ag Since 83
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The seedings are based on the past 2 World Cups (Mexico: 2 2nd round appearances; US: total failure in 98 and a quarterfinal appearance) and the FIFA world rankings. Despite the fact that we seem to have passed Mexico looking at head to head results, they continue to do well against other teams. For example, see their success in the Confederations Cup over the past several years.

On the bandwagon since birth. Raised in the bleachers of Kyle, Olsen, and G. Rollie White
birdman
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Actually the seedings are based on past 3 WCs and current ranking with emphasis on more recent results. If they had used the same formula as past two seedings, the USA would have been seeding. Mexico might have as well. If you're a conspiracy guy, you believe they kept tweaking the formuala this year to exclude the USA.
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