Volleyball Goals

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republic_45
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Looks like the volleyball team is headed nowhere again. It’s pretty said the coach’s goal is to get to the second round of the NCAA tournament. After 13 years you think she’d have accomplished something. She is obviously capable of landing some big name recruits, but then it seems she gives up. Lets face it the only reason we were ranked 13th 2 season ago was because of Laura Jones. So she got a transfer, and some sophomores, that may get her off of the hot seat for another season, but overall I think this could be another pretty boring season, sounds like she thinks so too.

Time for a change, and I say hire a male coach. Look at the top programs in the nation, all coached by males, minus maybe Florida.
lostboy
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quote:
Time for a change, and I say hire a male coach. Look at the top programs in the nation, all coached by males


Sexist

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pretty said


And can't spell.
Double whammy.
Aggienk
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Depressing thread.
Look Out Below
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where did you hear this?
mtp2007
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http://www.aggieathletics.com/pressRelease.php?SID=&PRID=13047
ColoradoMooseHerd
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talk about taking her words out of context
Aggienk
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Not really.

It doesn't sound like she's too excited about this year either.
Pigeon88
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The Corbelli's need to produce something impressive soon, or I agree it will be time to go in a different direction. Last year was a total disaster.
republic_45
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The only hope our volleyball team has left is Bill Byrne. He oversaw the hiring of John Cook at Nebraska; we’ve seen him make some really good hires at A&M.
dcaggie04
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I think this thread reiterates my point that alot of people will only say something about the non big 3 sports if we are not doing good. Otherwise they really don't care about those sports.
republic_45
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I would have said the same thing when the Aggies were way overrated 2 seasons ago. And like I said, after 13 years and nothing to show, the Corbellis should start passing out some resumes.
Aggienk
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I think this thread reiterates my point that alot of people will only say something about the non big 3 sports if we are not doing good. Otherwise they really don't care about those sports.

That's completely incorrect. You complain about those of us who think Evans isn't right for the softball program or Corbelli isn't right for volleyball, but look at how many trophies they've added to the case. Between them: 1 conference title in 20-something years. I will not apologize for having higher standards than that.
And all the critics are very happy to see the programs be an elite team in any given year. It just doesn't happen often enough to fawn over the coach any time she is mentioned. I hope Corbelli gets us back to the Sweet Sixteen. But I also realize that isn't considered a successful season to the Big 12's elite, and I am not happy until we are a part of that group.
sharpdressedman
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...look at how many trophies they've added to the case. Between them: 1 conference title in 20-something years.


Most fans will agree that these are not inspiring results in the age of "Building Champions." Unfortunately for the coaches involved, results are what matter the most.

[This message has been edited by sharpdressedman (edited 6/9/2007 10:27a).]
BBRex
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I really enjoyed watching the volleyball team a few years back. And watching top teams like the Logan Tom-led Stanford squad come to G. Rollie White was great (I was probably the only non-13-year-old girl who wanted her autograph). A match like that now would be fun to watch, but probably not nearly as contested.

I don't know if it was luck, timing, renewed energy or what, but Evans has the softball team on a bit of a roll. I've never heard anything bad about the Corbellis, but they really need to produce. And change doesn't have to be bad, it might be beneficial for the school and the coach.

[This message has been edited by BBRex (edited 6/12/2007 12:25a).]
Lekner XII
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not to sound like a corbelli apologist, but i would think it would be prudent when reading her comments to bear in mind where they are coming from this year. the results last year were pretty abominable and so making the 2nd round of the NCAAs is a pretty great leap. forgive me, but it's pretty damn similar to what the baseball team did this year.
Aggienk
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not to sound like a corbelli apologist, but i would think it would be prudent when reading her comments to bear in mind where they are coming from this year. the results last year were pretty abominable and so making the 2nd round of the NCAAs is a pretty great leap. forgive me, but it's pretty damn similar to what the baseball team did this year.

What I, and most other critics, am upset about is that we have to make a "pretty great leap" in terms of success this far into Corbelli's tenure just to make the second round.
I also don't like the Childress analogy as Rob had to clean up messes leftover from the previous staff while recruiting from several terrible seasons as a first-year division 1 head coach. He had all the cards stacked against him.

[This message has been edited by Aggienk (edited 6/10/2007 4:43p).]
Lekner XII
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coaching is cyclical. there is a lot more involved in creating a championship team than just recruiting some great players and playing some games. we don't know what kind of internal clean up they've been doing the last couple of years.

my point really is that last year's team was extremely young and playing in a pretty tough league. they needed some experience and now they have it. i don't think we'll see the same team come august. if we do and the results are the same, then let's start talking about where to go, but give the TEAM a chance to come together. we may not have won a national championship yet, but we've had some damn good teams pretty consistently. give the coaches and program some credit.
republic_45
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I don’t think we have had good TEAMs. Corbelli recruits one big name and gives up. Recently she got Laura Jones, she would have been a great recruit to build a program around, but instead she waits 4 years to any other mentionable name.

This year’s team was young because corbelli made it that way. She had experienced players that were just as good as the freshman, namely Lindsay Yon; but, instead she chose to play younger, maybe not quite as good players. I think that is probably why Lindsay left. Corbelli allowed her to play and even start a lot of games as a freshman, but then sat her on the bench her sophomore year. She had experienced players at every position but chose to insert the freshman, it really made no sense, and its not like it got us any trophies.

Evidently girls want to play in Texas. Look at UT. They landed the number 2 and number 3 recruits for next season, while we got an unranked player to “get bigger at the net.”

Point is the big 12 is competitive in volleyball, and A&M isn’t.
GC
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republic-45, your premise on Yon is way off base. That is pure speculation as to why Lindsey did not play this past year and why she is not returning to the team this coming year. Check the stats---the best peforming players played. . .

You honestly don't believe the Corbellis chose to sit a better team member so they could play a lesser one, do you? The players' performance, both on and off the court, in games and in practice, as well as their collective social, athletic and academic accountability, all bear on one's effectiveness and ability to contribute. Again, the Corbelli's gave Lindsey every chance to succeed and to be a member of the Team - it didn't work out and Lindsey chose to leave A&M.

As for this coming year . . . watch. . . good things are coming. . .


republic_45
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I agree my premise is pure speculation. I watched her play as a freshman and she was really impressive, she hit smart, and hard. I watch quite a bit of volleyball, and I think she would have been better than some players that did play. But I don’t think my premise is too far fetched. She got to play a lot as a freshman, and I imagine she expected to get to play a lot as a sophomore, when she didn’t I’m sure it was really frustrating.

I can’t say for sure that better players sat out while lesser players played. I just question a lot of the decisions she made through out the season.

I hope that good things happen this season. And I’ll be watching even if they don’t.
republic_45
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I also hope that Bill Byrne has his eyes open for a new coach, even if the team achieves their lofty goal…the second round.
Lekner XII
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ALL-TIME BIG 12 RECORD: 137-63 (10 years)
NCAA TOURNAMENT APPEARANCES: 17 (‘94-95-96-97-98-99-00-01-02-03-04-05)
NCAA BEST FINISH: 1999, 2001 region finals
NCAA TOURNAMENT RECORD: 20-17


Even in light of the last 2 seasons' records, those are pretty impressive. So is the fact that under Corbelli, they've won about 70% of their games. To discount what she's accomplished is unfair to her and the athletes. I'd rather not chase rabbits until we have to. After all the big rabbit on this campus is only at about .500 after 4 years and millions of dollars.
sharpdressedman
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It's the recent history of downward-sliding into the B12 South basement that is concerning.

Without greatly improved results this season, and getting to the second round of the tourney seems like a big accomplishment given last year's brutal embarrassment, I doubt BB will let LC waste the current talent an additional year.
Oh Four Five
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Unfortunately I have to agree with sharpdressedman. I love the Corbelli's. They have done incredible things for this program and have been great for the university. That being said, this is very similar to the Mark Johnson situation a couple years back. MJ's teams failed to produce and the program started to decline. BB decided to go in a different direction. That seems to have worked out pretty well for us thus far.
Lekner XII
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I don't disagree with y'all, but I do think that discounting what they've done is doing a disservice to the coaches and the players.

In any event, regardless of what we think, the coaches are still the coaches this season and I just want the Aggies to win.
GC
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From PrepVolleyball.com's Top 50 from the HS Class of 2008:


Kelsey Black, 5-11 OH – Texas A&M

Chelsea Ringel, 6-0 OH – Texas A&M


Big 12 Teams with 3 from the Top 50--Nebraska

Big 12 Teams with 2 from the Top 50--Texas A&M

Big 12 Teams with 1 from the Top 50--Oklahoma

Granted, these two girls have a year of HS to go before joining the Ags in Fall 2008; but for all you who say Corbelli's can't recruit and aren't doing the job . . .
sharpdressedman
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With respect, look at the record. Based upon recent history she isn't getting the job done. The team's multi-year decline into the B12 South cellar is equally disappointing and embarrassing.

LC's last big recruiting class was highly touted, but has shown no developmental progress in terms of winning on the court.

I understand that it is painful to watch a good person come up short, and there appears to be unanimity that LC is a good person. I wish her well, and hope she creates magic this Fall.

However, I agree with others who believe that without a dramatic improvement this season, it will likely be her last go-round in Aggieland.
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I believe that if we hire a new coach we will pay them at least three times what the Corbellis are making and will make improvements to facilities, etc. that would have helped the Corbellis do their job better.
GC
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Regarding this inaccurate statement:

"LC's last big recruiting class was highly touted, but has shown no developmental progress in terms of winning on the court."

If this refers to the Class of 2010, who just finished their freshman year, to say they showed no "developmental progress" is ludicrous!! Two of their last three matches, when the season was basically over, no chance of going to the Dance: (1) they put up some of the best opponent numbers at #1 Nebraska of any visiting team all year; and (2) beat a ranked Missouri team that was heading to the NCAA Tourney.

Put 4 or 5 17-18 yr olds on the floor in matches against 21 and 22 yr olds, in the Big 12, against Tourney-bound teams; and get these late season results - - "no developmental progress"??

That core of freshman had a solid spring season, is working hard this off season and will show their "developmental progress" . . .then you can apolgize to them all !!


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Get'em GC.
TexAgof08
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I agree with GC. give the girls a break, they showed great improvement towards the end of the season, and they work hard together.
bqce
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I don't think anyone was bagging on the girls. I think they were bagging on the coaches not developing the girls.

I guess we'll find out this season if the development after a year of really good recruiting the previous year bears fruit. I truly hope for the players' benefit that it does.
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yeh, fair enough. however, when the girls read stuff like this, it really cant make them feel any better. i am not saying we should blindly support our athletic teams no matter what... but we could be much more encouraging.
GC
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BGOC today!

Look for Darla D, our newest "Big Girl on Campus", as the Ags continue off season training . . .Whoop!
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