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raccoons always get the corn out of my feeders and get away

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Or try rubbing petroleum jelly on the legs of the feeder. Works pretty well.

So Martin was at least "permitted" to be in the community?

I listened to the unedited call and he say "these *******s, they always get away".

The dispatcher also says "you don't need to do that" in response to him answering yes to "are you following him?".

Also in the recording they ask Zimm his name and address, he starts to say his address then stops and says "I don't want to give that out on here". I mention that because that is when, to me, he starts sounding like he is contemplating doing something he doesn't want to be caught doing.

don't forget your empty bag of skittles.

I know what I'm going to be doing tomorrow night!

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he starts sounding like he is contemplating doing something he doesn't want to be caught doing.

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bullsh*t /fakesneeze

I put a cage around the spinner, but you know how raccoons are - crafty. Always stealing.

I wouldn't be able to check the traps enough to try and trap them...

Ive hear raccoons as a whole have abnormally large genitalia as well. Also, cant say Ive seen one swim...hmm.

Please go and take a cell phone video NA

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If I'm minding my own business and you confront me with a gun, I have a right to defend myself.

See how that works?

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I see that you can't read because that is NOT what I said. We also do not know that THAT is what happened in this case.

free wings for an entire half hour??!??!!

sign me up

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Also in the recording they ask Zimm his name and address, he starts to say his address then stops and says "I don't want to give that out on here". I mention that because that is when, to me, he starts sounding like he is contemplating doing something he doesn't want to be caught doing.

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Or he doesn't want trayvon to know his address.

Steve, it isn't that hard to find addresses.

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Please link to where 911 operators instructed him not to follow.

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Ah yes, semantics.

Do you or do you not agree that Zimmerman following Travyon caused this incident to happen?

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So that you were incorrect in your assertions now means it's a case of semantics? Gotcha. Again, someone that doesn't know much of anything spouting off incorrect information.

I believe several things led to this tragedy, from Zimmerman being some sort of neighborhood watchman in an area recently plagued with burglaries, to Martin being in an area that he isn't normally in because of his own choices. It was like a perfect storm of events that led to Martin losing his life and it sucks, it's sad, and it's tragic enough without all the talking heads piling on to push their agendas.

Let the investigation take its course and then make a judgement.

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I believe several things led to this tragedy, from Zimmerman being some sort of neighborhood watchman in an area recently plagued with burglaries, to Martin being in an area that he isn't normally in because of his own choices. It was like a perfect storm of events that led to Martin losing his life and it sucks, it's sad, and it's tragic enough without all the talking heads piling on to push their agendas.

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Quote: He was never told not to pursue. No one is arguing that a suspension is grounds for killing. Your comments are beyond ignorant and dangerously irresponsible.

Then what is the purpose of the right's smear campaign on him? This kid was walking around with skittles and a vigilante with a gun decided to end his life by choosing to pursue and confront him in a hostile manner with no visible signs of authority (badge, uniform) to do so. Anything to justify these laws the NRA got onto the books.

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When did it become the "right" smearing him? More ignorant comments.
Since when is reporting on the social media activities and personal history of a subject of a high profile story a campaign? More ignorance.
If Martin was on the honor roll, an Eagle Scout, had accepted a scholarship to FSU, and started a blog about his experiences in a horticulture it no doubt would be reported and justifiably so. It sets a narrative, and I think that's why so many people are upset at the media and people like you that pick and choose what goes best with their desired outcome process be damned.

Let it take it's course, if it goes to trial we'll no doubt here a lot more about these two, their families, and the events of that night.

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I believe several things led to this tragedy, from Zimmerman being some sort of neighborhood watchman in an area recently plagued with burglaries, to Martin being in an area that he isn't normally in because of his own choices. It was like a perfect storm of events that led to Martin losing his life and it sucks, it's sad, and it's tragic enough without all the talking heads piling on to push their agendas.

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To which part?

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So that you were incorrect in your assertions now means it's a case of semantics? Gotcha. Again, someone that doesn't know much of anything spouting off incorrect information.

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You're nitpicking. The 911 operator told him he didn't need to follow Travyon. Yet Billy Badass decided the 911 operator was wrong and continued to follow a kid that didn't appear to be breaking any laws other than being a black kid in a white neighborhood.

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So that you were incorrect in your assertions now means it's a case of semantics? Gotcha. Again, someone that doesn't know much of anything spouting off incorrect information.

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You're nitpicking. The 911 operator told him he didn't need to follow Travyon. Yet Billy Badass decided the 911 operator was wrong and continued to follow a kid that didn't appear to be breaking any laws other than being a black kid in a white neighborhood.

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No I'm not, your being stubborn because your wrong...again.

Amd I'm fairly certain it's not a "white" neighborhood. But of course with you if more than one family is white it must be a white neighborhood and I'm nitpicking. :-/

Not only that no one knows for sure who confronted who and how or with what.

Let the process happen. Or keep looking like you do on the GB. I don't care.

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Do you or do you not agree that Zimmerman following Travyon caused this incident to happen?

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It's not altogether certain now that Zimmerman actually followed him.

this is the GB

riiiight, he teleported to his body seconds before his gun went off.

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black kid in a mostly white neighborhood.

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FIFY

Someone needs to make a fake batman poster out of a Zimmerman picture


The joker would be proud of this ordeal

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No I'm not, your being stubborn because your wrong...again.

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Not only that no one knows for sure who confronted who and how or with what.

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The killer told the 911 operator he was following the victim. An easy way to prevent this could have been to not follow him like the 911 operator told him. That's pretty ****ing simple.

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That many people lived in that gated community?

Damn, was this The Villages?

Haven't quite got it narrowed down further than Lake Mary, FL, but give me a few more minutes...

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No I'm not, your being stubborn because your wrong...again.

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Not only that no one knows for sure who confronted who and how or with what.

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The killer told the 911 operator he was following the victim. An easy way to prevent this could have been to not follow him like the 911 operator told him. That's pretty ****ing simple.

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Spelling smack to a guy on an iPad, congrats you've won this round.

Here's something else that's simple, or should be for you....NO ONE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED?

Did he stop following and head back to his truck where Martin confronted him? Did he catch up to Martin and grab his shoulder from behind? Did Zimmerman follow, and then corner Martin with gun drawn? Did he do that before Martin was able to break his nose and then jump on top of Zimmerman and continue to beat him?

You don't know because you weren't there their or they're...none of us were.

But please continue your efforts to look remotely intelligent or insightful in the face of a growing amount of information suggesting you aren't either of those.

Who cares what the operator said? They answer phones, lets not pretend it's anything more. He chose to continue his duty's and was assaulted by a thug.

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I can't get the exact neighborhood demographics, but based on the zip code info of:

Race
Hispanic/Latino: 9.5%
White*: 79.3%
Black*: 4.7%
Native American*: 0%
Asian*: 4.5%
Hawaiian/Pacific Islander*: 0.1%
Other*: 0.2%
Multiracial*: 1.5%
* Does not include individuals
in this racial group
who identify as Hispanic/Latino.


it is fairly safe to assume mostly white.

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Spelling smack to a guy on an iPad

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LOOK AT ME I HAVE DISPOABLE MONIES AND BUY FANCY INTERNET DEVICES

Zimmerman should not have followed him. We don't know the rest of the details. Did the punkass deserve to die? Nope.

Race and neighborhood makeup don't mean chit if the shooter was Mexican, right?



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Did the punkass deserve to die?

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We don't exactly know.
He most likely didn't deserve to die at the hands of Zimmerman, but we don't really know that either.
Isn't this all just part of God's plan?

Well, most likely not. If Zimmerman would not have followed him he'd be alive to do his various hobbies.

If Zimmerman posts on TexAgs under the screen name, "Steve Billings" , he is completely effed once they find out.