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gun shows, vendors are not private citizens

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You have no clue what you're talking about. You really should just shut it down for the day.

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gun shows, vendors are not private citizens

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Again, ignorance.

Vendors sell at gun shows.

Maybe if you stopped lapping up the libtard mantra, you'd find out for yourself.

I wish I hadn't have opened this thread.
I'm gonna go buy a gun now.

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I'm gonna go buy a gun now.

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'Merica

huh. doesn't look like a background check is required at a gun show in texas to me:

http://www.governing.com/gov-data/safety-justice/gun-show-firearms-bankground-checks-state-laws-map.html

and maybe stop looping all people who don't support your neo conservatism into the category of "libtards". some of us hate the welfare state as much as you do, but feel there is room for improvement in other aspects of government.

who cares? i'm anti-background check, suck on that

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You should take your own advice about looping people.

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huh. doesn't look like a background check is required at a gun show in texas to me:

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from a dealer? yes
from a private citizen? No.

Again, you don't know what you are talking about, and you should be wary of your sources.

Federal law requires background checks to be performed by any FFL vendor at a gun show.

I have purchased several weapons from guns shows and each time, background check. Well, the CHL keeps me from having to have one since the CHL is much more rigorous.

Again, private citizens selling to each other do not require one.

And, if you believe that placing background checks on a law abiding citizen would have prevented any of these tragedies, then you are truly ignorant and only reactionary "for the children."

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huh. doesn't look like a background check is required at a gun show in texas to me:

http://www.governing.com/gov-data/safety-justice/gun-show-firearms-bankground-checks-state-laws-map.html

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Known as the "gun show loophole," most states do not require background checks for private firearms purchases at gun shows. Federal law only requires licensed dealers to do background checks at gun shows.

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What do you think happens when a vendor is a dealer? Hint: it's required.
What do you think happens when a private party sells a firearm to another private party at a Walmart parking lot? Hint: it's not required. Bonus points: It's not at a gun show.

Just stop.

You think you know what you're talking about but it's clear that you don't.

el bee needs to do some ****ing research instead of spouting off media talking points. it's not that hard to understand. use your damn brain.

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and maybe stop looping all people who don't support your neo conservatism into the category of "libtards". some of us hate the welfare state as much as you do, but feel there is room for improvement in other aspects of government.

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Your ignorance is dangerous.

Neo-Conservatism?

Please define this for me from your perspective.

Also, please tell me more about "there is room for improvement in other aspects of government" in the context of today's conversation.

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Issues like this remind me that no matter how out of touch the GOP is with many of my beliefs, I'll take them any day over the Democratic party.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/theres-a-guy-on-instagram-bragging-that-he-captured-the-lone

enjoy *****es


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Dear God I'm glad I don't pay attention to the media. It's ridiculous how none of you can think for yourselves. Go a week without watching TV or reading news online and you'd be a much happier person. It will cause you to form your own opinion on things rather than regurgitate the **** you've seen on TV and claim it as your own thought.

That doesn't apply to just one side, either. You all sound like raging idiots arguing on the internet about something you cannot change. What do you hope to accomplish by spewing bull**** at each other? It's not going to get you anywhere. Get this thread back on track.



T&P to those involved, as well as their families and friends. Hopefully everyone will be alright.

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Look at this guy. He's going somewhere with his raging on the internet.

#copsaretooslow

I'm ok with background checks

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You all sound like raging idiots arguing on the internet about something you cannot change. What do you hope to accomplish by spewing bull**** at each other? It's not going to get you anywhere.

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Here's an idea, you don't like us arguing, GET OFF THE THREAD AND THE FECKING INTERNET!!

Otherwise......STFU.

nice use of instagram filters

Just Houston being Houston

That place is trash

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Just Houston being Houston

That place is trash

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Lol

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Aurora gunman didn't pick the theater he shot up because of its closeness to where he lived. He avoided 4 other cinemas in close proximity to select the only one advertised as a "gun free" theater.

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Minor quibble, but this doesn't entirely tell a full story. There's maybe 1 other theater that would be considered close to where he lived...it's not like he drove around looking for one to hit and passed a handful of theaters on the way. The Aurora Mall theater is incredibly easy to get to from where he lived...a block or two on Colfax to I-225, then 2 more exits down I-225 is the Aurora Mall complex. The other theater in the area (in the other direction) would have been much more difficult to get to...a few sketchy neighborhoods to drive through and a couple of exits down I-70 to the Stapleton area.

Plus, if he was being that strategic (and didn't plan on dying that night) he wouldn't have chosen a location so close to the Aurora PD headquarters which is virtually across the street.

carry on. knives and guns and such.

GET HIM!

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gun shows, vendors are not private citizens

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instead of calling el bee ignorant, try educating her.
sales by all vendors at gun shows are required to go through a background check. sales between private individuals are not required to go through a background check. the so called "gun show loophole" is when two private individuals meet at a show and sale a gun to each other, but gun control advocates try to make it sound as if ALL sales go unchecked. that criminals are lining up to skip a background check.
the reason gun owners are against universal checks is that the only way to enforce the law would be registration of all guns. gun owners will NEVER get behind registration. and it will do nothing to stop gun violence. two gang bangers are going to go down to the local gun store to sell a stolen firearm to each other. they'll just sell on the street like now. all that will be accomplished is an added expense and inconvenience to lawful gun owners.

it was her snarkiness and confidence in her ignorance that led to the reactions directed towards her

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sales by all vendors at gun shows are required to go through a background check. sales between private individuals are not required to go through a background check.

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Almost spot on, but some shows do allow private collectors to get a table, which makes them a "vendor". They still aren't a business, so background checks aren't required, although many will not sell unless you have proof of a background check (like a CHL). They are a pretty small minority of the vendors present though.

El bee is the classic liberal. Loves to mouth off, knows nothing.

Dealers online, offline and at gun shows run a background check. In Texas, you are also able to use your CHL, which in that case, you have already had an extensive background check.

What would private sale background checks accomplish? Do you think the street dealer is going to run a background check if the law is passed?

Stop with the feel good crap and try doing some research.

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The other theater in the area (in the other direction) would have been much more difficult to get to...a few sketchy neighborhoods to drive through and a couple of exits down I-70 to the Stapleton area.

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The guy had body armor and a helmet, flash or smoke grenades, a shotgun, pistols, and an assault rifle or two.

You think he was worried about a sketchy neighborhood?

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GET HIM!

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You think he was worried about a sketchy neighborhood?

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More likely to get pulled over in a sketchy neighborhood. He would have looked out of place going through that area of town. If he gets pulled over, his plan is toast.

I think its funny when someone calls me a neo con, cause chances are that I've been called a Paulbot within 24 hours of that.