Agree with bunk- I'm coming with you.

later dudes!

I think it's pretty obvious that Walt died of cancer in the first episode and the rest of the episodes have been Walt in purgatory, not wanting to leave because he didn't leave his family with anything.

If that's not it then I think Walt will probably get arrested for something stupid like failure to render aid to a fat guy getting robbed and has to spend 1 year in jail.

Grantland about Ozymandias
Tons of good stuff. And I had to smile a big ol' smile at this:

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the Denny's scene was shot before Gilligan and the creative team knew what they were going to do with it. pretty sure i read this somewhere. (maybe one of the Talking Bad fun facts they show)

if thats true, i wonder if they regret going that route now.

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I think it's gonna be more because of Walt's story becoming a major, national news story, and his "disappearance" will be well-documented, but not necessarily a faked death.

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this

I think a lot of you are missing the forest for the trees.

If you think Walt's plea to save hank was disappointing or weak, you don't understand Walt. When he is in control, or at least thinks he is, he is about as cool a customer as they come. But when he is left without options or feels like someone isn't respecting his inflated self-image, he ****s his pants and makes stupid decisions.

That scene was every bit of Walt as the "You're ***damn right" scene

Any significance on Jesse looking up and seeing the 2 circling vultures before Meth Damon "saved" him?

Dear God, make me a bird. So I could fly far. Far far away from here.

Birds= hank and Gomez
Or Jesse and Jane?
Or flying free about to be free of Walt and all the pain

MW - I thought 2 things about the buzzards: (1) 1 each for gomey and hank and (2) that'll help folks find the bodies.

and I agree about Mike. He may be my very favorite character, in a close run with Saul. He was right when he told Walt - we had a good thing going and you ruined everything. Yep.

F Walt. The more miserable he his the happier I am. Speaking of which - when he was on the ground moaning in agony when Hank got shot, take a look at that pic. His open mouth shows nothing but black. Insight into his inner emptiness/evil.

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If you think Walt's plea to save hank was disappointing or weak, you don't understand Walt. When he is in control, or at least thinks he is, he is about as cool a customer as they come. But when he is left without options or feels like someone isn't respecting his inflated self-image, he ****s his pants and makes stupid decisions.

That scene was every bit of Walt as the "You're ***damn right" scene

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thats true but when faced with imminent death he always falls back on his leverage of being the only feasible option as the blue meth cook and manages to escape. Maybe Uncle Jack tells him he doesn't care about that and kills Hank anyway, but I at least wanted him to go through the motions for continuity.

Krazy8 was about to kill him - Walt says I'll show you how to cook
Mike was about to kill him - Walt arranges to have Gale shot by Jesse
Jesse was about to kill him - Walt convinces him that Gus poisoned Brock

When he's got $80 fkn million to offer up and it's 20 yards away, offering to be a cook is small-time. He offered up all the realistic leverage he had, but in the end, it wouldn't have mattered anyway. Hank was a dead man no matter what. They weren't going to leave a DEA agent alive and knew they could get Walt's money anyway. Period.

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Walt made that 80mm in a few months. He can tell the Nazis that he'll personally teach Todd how to do the same. Whatever it takes. Same leverage he's had the whole series. Walt cooking meth is the most valuable commodity in the drug world. The nazis may be too dumb to realize that or don't care to increase their profits.

The nazis don't care. "We'll just add food coloring" in response to Lydia's lecture about quality and blue being their brand

They've never dreamed of having $70m, but greed wont let them stop there. However, Todd cooking with Jesse is all Todd. At least for now

Edit to add - before they got the money, they knew Walts value as a cook/teacher to Todd. His providing one more lesson cook was their price for killing Jesse

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Is anyone else getting the feeling that Breaking Bad might have been a prequel to Malcolm in the Middle this whole time? Walt will start his new life with Frankie Munez in the last episode.

No swagger, that's never been mentioned. And these writers are so weak you might be on to something

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I took it as Jesse wanting to join Jane.

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Is anyone else getting the feeling that Breaking Bad might have been a prequel to Malcolm in the Middle this whole time? Walt will start his new life with Frankie Munez in the last episode.

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Old joke.

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Is anyone else getting the feeling that Breaking Bad might have been a prequel to Malcolm in the Middle this whole time? Walt will start his new life with Frankie Munez in the last episode.

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People have made that stupid joke repeatedly on this thread.

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Something something pray with me Walt Jr something something magic shoes

I think the birds may have had to do less with symbolism and more to feeding into movie cliches to make you think he was actually going to die. You see lots of characters focus on a sunset, birds, etc right before they die (kind of like mike, actually)... I actually had a second when Jesse saw the vultures when I was sure he was done.

Just one of about 100 heart stopping moments in that episode

Same here Tobias, something about those vultures made me think he was about to die.

so what does the dog crossing the street mean?

Good interview with the director about how the baby said "mama"(it was unplanned) and why we didn't see Jesse tortured.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/breaking-bad-director-doing-death-629957?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_term=hollywoodreporter_breakingnews_confirmed&utm_campaign=THR%20Breaking%20News_now_acouch

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Dog crossing the street means Walt is a stray dog, all alone. Ragged, broken, probably eating trash.

Just how much could Jesse have told the Feds about the Nazi's? The only one Jesse had exposure to was Todd, and I don't think there's any reason that he'd have known Todd was connected to the Nazi's...was there?

Maybe Todd told Jack to give Walter his share of the money, and Todd would stick around and cook for his sweetheart Lydia...and Jack and crew took the money and ran.

Seems to be a little irony that Heisenberg (whose namesake was accused of being a Jewish sympathizer by the original Nazis) would be taken down by some modern day Nazis.

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As much as folks have been referencing "The Wire," this last episode had me more in mind of the Sopranos. Not so much in terms of similarities, but more in terms of conscious differences. If you haven't seen The Sopranos, do not read further:







Four episodes from the end in The Sopranos, "Kennedy and Heid," Tony reaches his limit with Christopher's moodiness and drug addiction, and (in my mind anyway) goes as far as one can in breaking bad - choosing to kill a member of his family/his protegee.

Breaking Bad: Three episodes from the end, we learn that WW is once again no Tony Soprano. Sure, he hurts Jesse by telling him about Jane, but he is unwilling to do the job himself, nor does he insist that the job is done in front of him. Hence, his protegee lives. Likewise, he fights to keep Hank (his family) from being killed.

Other considerations:

As Newsday pointed out (before I could get to it), the Soprano's "The Second Coming" is based on a famous old poem, Yeat's "Things Fall Apart." Newsday article: http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/tv-zone-1.811968/breaking-bad-ozymandias-the-sopranos-and-the-endgame-1.6081019

Of course, this episode of BB is based on Shelly's Ozymandias, about the end of empires.

Both are clearly apocalyptic and spell the recipe for the end times.

But, here's hoping that Vince Gilligan learned something about viewer dissatisfaction from the 'fade to black' ending to the Sopranos.

In my view, Gilligan is consciously trying to show that Walter White is not Tony Soprano, and, I desperately hope, we will get an ending to the story of Walter White in the world of Breaking Bad.




****Soprano spoilers finished*******

He probably told then that Todd murdered a child.

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That actor that plays Walt Jr. plays a helluva retarded kid. Has he ever one an emmy for his role?

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Not sure if serious.

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That actor that plays Walt Jr. plays a helluva retarded kid. Has he ever one an emmy for his role?

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Tell me this is a joke.

His character has cerebral palsy. Is this retarded? Its a physical disorder. And RJ Mitte has mild CP in real life, and for filming he was off his medication and stopped normal treatment for it.

So, he's not acting the CP part of it

You're an ass Tread

i thought he was acting kid, sorry bro

my bad bro