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Uh, you could put that on a DVD jacket and I'd buy it sight unseen

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My thoughts exactly. 24 was a top 10 show easy.

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Not to divert the thread, but I loved the first 3-4 seasons of 24 until I came to tire of the same "24-esque clichés" every season. If you watched the show, then you know what I'm talking about. For some, that is why they loved the show. For others, it became a turn-off. That is what Homeland became in Season 2, and there just wasn't enough naked Morena Baccarin to make up for it.

As for the predictability of last nights episode of BB, and to tie it in to my Homeland complaint, someone else said it best in a previous post. It's not sudden twists and surprises that make a show great. Great shows make the twists believable and the "predictable" scenes still incredibly intense, meaningful, and rewarding to watch. Breaking Bad did that, even in the "predictable" finale. Homeland had those moments in the first season, not in the second.

I was disappointed that Jessie did not say biiiitch at the end when he was driving away.

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At least no one is trying to compare Walt to Christ because of the pose he died in with blood on his palms. Anyone making those comparisons should not be listened to.

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Is it bad that the Manhunter finale came to mind first for me?

I'm a huge fan of the Sopranos, The Wire, The Shield, Lost, etc. Between top cable and tv drama series over the past 15 years, I think Mad Men is about the only one I didn't watch. And to me, Breaking Bad topped everything I've watched. Just incredible drama, plotlines, and acting all throughout.

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Yes he did.

Mike don't give a ****.

I really enjoyed the last few seasons of Lost

Barely recognized Skinny Pete.

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Also, I think it would have been awesome and much more emotional if in the final scene Walt had cooked one last batch. Showing him going through the process one last time while we all know he is about to die and then having him look proud/content would have been AWESOME. Then they could have still had him lying on the floor to die at the end. This would have taken a couple extra minutes to show, but it would have been worth it in my opinion.

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I know that everyone I was watching with thought that was exactly what was going to happen. However, I don't think he needed to. He had already proven everything he needed to. He was already proud and content as can be seen when he's looking at the tanks. I don't feel like having him cook one last batch just for old times sake would have done anything for the show overall.

The comparisons between Lost and BB is just asinine. I think the only thing you can say is the buzz between these two finales are very loud. That's about it.

It's hilarious when shows end unpredictably, the writers pull a fast one on the audience and people go "that sucked, I want a better conclusion! i want to be spoonfed!" (e.g, Sopranos). In some cases, writers become lazy and decide to just write an ending for the sake of a happy ending (e.g, Lost). Then... sometimes the writers stick to the story, stay true to the point of the entire series, write what they should write, and somewhat spoon feed the audience (e.g, Breaking Bad, Fringe, FNL).

In all those scenarios, people will complain and say worst ending ever/could have been better/why didn't the writers shock us/etc etc.

In my opinion, there was no other conclusion for Breaking Bad. In the bar scene where the hockey game was playing (http://extramustard.si.com/2013/09/23/last-nights-breaking-bad-featured-a-classic-college-hockey-game-from-1998/), the team that was down came back to win the third period. Walt needed to win. How does he do that? Get his kids the money somehow, and kill the nazis/lydia. Why would he NEED to kill Jesse? This was solely a story about him doing what he had to do before he died, doing what he had to do for his family. Those of you who wanted a blood bath, rewatch the rest of the series... that wasn't the point of this conclusion. However, the scene killing the nazis was pretty bloody. I seriously think the writers only killed enough to bring resolution to the show, not to go crazy on us and kill everyone in sight like some of you might have hoped for.

10.6M viewers last night. Up from the season high of like 6.5, which was double any episode from prior seasons. Pilot had 1.5M viewers.

That's kinda insane.

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I know that everyone I was watching with thought that was exactly what was going to happen. However, I don't think he needed to. He had already proven everything he needed to. He was already proud and content as can be seen when he's looking at the tanks. I don't feel like having him cook one last batch just for old times sake would have done anything for the show overall.

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The main reason it would have made it better for me is that it would have made the last scene longer. It doesn't have to be him cooking, it could have been anything. The last scene was great, but it would have been that much better if it had lasted a few minutes longer (in my opinion).

As short as it was, I don't think it gave the audience enough time to think about what was actually going on and let the reality set in that all Walt had in his last moments was the meth. He didn't have friends, family, or anything else. Obviously, we have all realized this for a long time, but I think it would have been cool if that scene was longer to let us think about it in that moment of the finale (for longer than we were able to).

Whether you wanted Walt to live or die, the moment when you realize he is dying is huge. Like I said, I loved the last scene but wish they could have dragged it out a little more.

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10.6M viewers last night. Up from the season high of like 6.5, which was double any episode from prior seasons. Pilot had 1.5M viewers.

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Been waiting to hear the numbers. That's awesome.

And that's obviously not taking into account all the bars/parties/screenings around the country.

So glad the show exploded into popularity before the end. Well deserved.

For the grand series finale Sunday night, Breaking Bad hit 10.3 million viewers, with 6.7 million adults 18-49.

Let me explain how crazy that is. Do you know what the fourth season finale of Breaking Bad delivered a mere two years ago? That was the gripping “Face Off” episode that capped Walter vs. Gus’ deadly season-long chess game. Go on, guess…

The fourth season finale delivered only 1.9 million viewers. And at the time, that rating was actually considered good news. Because that was up 23 percent from season three. So two years and only 16 episodes later (since the fifth season was split into two runs of eight episodes each), Breaking Bad viewership has skyrocketed an astounding 442 percent.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/09/30/breaking-bad-series-finale-ratings/

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The comparisons between Lost and BB is just asinine. I think the only thing you can say is the buzz between these two finales are very loud. That's about it.

It's hilarious when shows end unpredictably, the writers pull a fast one on the audience and people go "that sucked, I want a better conclusion! i want to be spoonfed!" (e.g, Sopranos). In some cases, writers become lazy and decide to just write an ending for the sake of a happy ending (e.g, Lost). Then... sometimes the writers stick to the story, stay true to the point of the entire series, write what they should write, and somewhat spoon feed the audience (e.g, Breaking Bad, Fringe, FNL).

In all those scenarios, people will complain and say worst ending ever/could have been better/why didn't the writers shock us/etc etc.

In my opinion, there was no other conclusion for Breaking Bad. In the bar scene where the hockey game was playing (http://extramustard.si.com/2013/09/23/last-nights-breaking-bad-featured-a-classic-college-hockey-game-from-1998/), the team that was down came back to win the third period. Walt needed to win. How does he do that? Get his kids the money somehow, and kill the nazis/lydia. Why would he NEED to kill Jesse? This was solely a story about him doing what he had to do before he died, doing what he had to do for his family. Those of you who wanted a blood bath, rewatch the rest of the series... that wasn't the point of this conclusion. However, the scene killing the nazis was pretty bloody. I seriously think the writers only killed enough to bring resolution to the show, not to go crazy on us and kill everyone in sight like some of you might have hoped for.

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10000000000000 times what you just said. Lost isn't anywhere close to being in the same universe as BB.

I would put shows like Friday Night Lights, Dexter, and Game of Thrones in the same group as BB. All have excellent writing and acting.

Sorry but I'm pretty sure most would place Lost above Dexter.

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Sorry but I'm pretty sure most would place Lost above Dexter.

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Did you know that the majority of people have low IQ's?

Dexter was garbage.

I love Friday Night Lights, but its so different from Breaking Bad. Coach Taylor is like the anti-Heisenberg.

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I love Friday Night Lights, but its so different from Breaking Bad. Coach Taylor is like the anti-Heisenberg.

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I'm not comparing characters or plots. Just the writing and acting. They are both great.

The only thing I didn't like about the Breaking Bad finale was Jesse driving off with the barrels. That was a little too feel good for my taste.

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The only thing I didn't like about the Breaking Bad finale was Jesse driving off with the barrels. That was a little too feel good for my taste.

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Uh, they never showed the barrels in that car.

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Are the cops looking for Jesse?

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Yep. Now he's constantly on the run from the cops. One might say he has a Need for Speed

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Officially allowing it to replace The Wire for whenever you feel like being an elitist ******nozzle in any given conversation.

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QFMFT

I forgot the winky face.

Surprised no one has started a debate over whether Jessie was trying to run over Walt when he tore off in that car.

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Interesting. I'd have thought that the majority of people were within one standard deviation of average intelligence.

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Interesting. I'd have thought that the majority of people were within one standard deviation of average intelligence.

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Mike with a beer and not giving an eff

Wow is that Saul on the right side of the couch? I can hardly recognize him.

I haven't caught up on this thread.....so, SIAP

but did anyone else notice Elliot talking about "apples and oranges" when they walked in to their house? That is the same analogy Walt used to Jessie in "Half Measures".

Not that that analogy is uncommon, I just thought it was interesting.

Great series. Sorry it had to end.

My one complaint about the ending is that Walt was able to funnel 9+ million to his family. (I wonder why he didn't stipulate that the money be divided equally between Junior and Holly, or among Junior, Holly, and his wife?) The fact that he was able to do that made his original choice to "break bad" ultimately meaningful, because even if it was a choice that he needed to make to give himself a sense of control and power, it still wound up benefitting his family, which to me defies the moralistic-universe-isn't-going-to-let-you-get-away-with-anything idea.

The perfect ending would be to have Walt die miserable, cold, and alone in that cabin; to have Robert Forster come and steal his money; and in the last scene, to have Jesse be killed as no longer needed, and to have Uncle Jack say to Todd, "Let's cook."

That would be a much darker ending, but one more in tune with the universe created within the world of the series over six years.



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