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The town forms a search party. The kid and the bike are missing. They search where he rides around looking for spiders. It makes it around town. The local with the big 4x4 mentions the stalled truck to the cops. They think the kid might have climbed into one of the cars so they track down the train. They have 3 witnesses describe Saul's guy who probably has a record.

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Well, even if it got to that point, I just don't see Saul's guy and his stalled dump truck being of that much interest, especially if everyone thinks the kid jumped on a train. The only link is that Saul's guy was in a several-square-mile area where the kid might have been last. Hell, I don't even know why the good samaritan would come forward unless he'd actually seen the boy earlier.

And even if, for some reason, they were interested in Saul's guy, the chances of tracking him down in New Mexico based on a verbal description are slim. Whatever criminal record he has would be in New Mexico, not Texas. It would take a lot of effort and luck to identify and locate him in another state. And, again, I just don't think there'd be that much motivation to do it because there's nothing really connecting him to the kid.

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Not to mention them not wanting the added attention in the area they are storing/moving all the Methlymene. Are they going to take a chance storing 800 gallons of it in the small storage shed they are working out of now?

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Like I said, it only makes sense to pull the tanks and Methylamine out of the ground immediately. After that, who cares that they're looking around in the desert?

Where have they been keeping the 50 gal drums of methylamine and all of the equipment? In the pest extermination shed? Would a large tank of chemicals in a pest extermination shed be suspicious? No. Storing it there, along with all of the other chemicals and equipment, seems a lot smarter than leaving it hundreds of miles away in the desert where rail workers, kids on motorcycles, or whoever might stumble onto it.

Was the train stopped in New Mexico or in Texas?

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Once they get rid of the kids body the search for him will not come up in the show again is my guess. It's going to be about the conflict the murder creates within the group, they aren't going to have a search or murder investigation into the kid become part of the show imo.

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I agree. Searches and even murder investigations have never been a factor on this show. The only exception might be Gayle, but that was only because of his notebook and Gus's fingerprints. And there have been countless people go missing in Albuquerque. So a search hundreds of miles away in Texas won't even be a blip on the show. Hell, they could probably just leave the body in the desert with a bullet hole, and it wouldn't come back to them.

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I was thinking it was in Texas, but I might be mistaken. Google says most people think it was supposed to be near Flagstaff.

Regardless, I still don't think the cops could easily track down Saul's guy based on a description. They never identified Victor based on descriptions and sketches. And they knew Victor was at the murder scene. Saul's guy isn't directly linked to the kid at all. So there's even less motivation to identify him.

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The train Heist was in New Mexico.

Yes, the heist was in New Mexico. Lydia said something along the lines of "there is a small stretch of track that the train takes in New Mexico that is off the grid".

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I assume they'll be pulling those tanks out of the ground regardless of what they do with the kid's body. They have to get the liquid back to Albuquerque anyway. Even if they hadn't killed the kid, it wouldn't make much sense to leave the tanks in the ground with residual amounts of methylamine inside, only to be discovered eventually by rail/bridge maintenance workers or something.

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Why did they bury them in the first place then? So the train guys wouldn't see? I guess this is an option but they could have hid them without completely burying them at ground level.

I assumed they buried them so they could just take what they needed and transport back, and do it several times when they needed more methylamine. Those containers were huge.

I agree D. It's not like they'd be leaving their stash a an exterminators storage. They are crooks and if it were me I wouldn't trust my most important inventory to just go unnoticed out in the open.

I think the plan was to store it there and bring a couple of barrels in as needed.

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Well, now I wish I hadn't deleted the episode off the DVR. I thought it was in Texas. You guys think it was in New Mexico. And most of the bloggers I found via google thought it was outside Flagstaff, which would be Arizona. I guess Lydia mentioned all three places when describing the train's route, and it's caused confusion as to where exactly the heist occurred.

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Why did they bury them in the first place then? So the train guys wouldn't see? I guess this is an option but they could have hid them without completely burying them at ground level.

I assumed they buried them so they could just take what they needed and transport back, and do it several times when they needed more methylamine. Those containers were huge.

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I figured they'd only buried them because it was the best way to hide them. There are probably limited options for hiding something that large in the desert. But I was also thinking the tanks were buried in Texas--where it would be a pain to retreive the stuff. If it's really close to Albequerque, then maybe they do plan to just keep it out there.

It doesn't seem smart to me to store the stuff where anyone might happen onto it and immediately know it's not supposed to be there. In my mind, a tank of chemicals in a pest exterminator's shed wouldn't raise any suspicion at all. I thought that's why they chose to work out of the shed with the exterminators. But who knows.

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the train heist was in definitely in new mexico, I believe somewhere outside of santa fe

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It doesn't seem smart to me to store the stuff where anyone might happen onto it and immediately know it's not supposed to be there

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But thats the thing. They hid it, so in the odd case someone was out in that area they would have to dig up the ground to find it. I just don't see them going through all that trouble to hide it just to dig it out again and haul back with them.

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Well, now I wish I hadn't deleted the episode off the DVR. I thought it was in Texas. You guys think it was in New Mexico. And most of the bloggers I found via google thought it was outside Flagstaff, which would be Arizona. I guess Lydia mentioned all three places when describing the train's route, and it's caused confusion as to where exactly the heist occurred.

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She says that once a week on Wednesday a train leaves the port of Longbeach and goes east where it stops in Flagstaff and is broken down. The Methlymene is then sent on to pesticide concerns in Oklahoma and Texas, meaning "it passes through your home state." The remote stretch is in McKinley County northwest of Albuquerque.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce37ApsjfKc

seems Gus and Jesse had a past

Thanks Hornographer.

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The remote stretch is in McKinley County northwest of Albuquerque.

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I misheard this part when I watched. I thought she said King County, which is part of why I thought it was in Texas.

I wanted to revisit what I posted a couple weeks ago when we first met Todd.

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I was thinking, "WTF is he doing?" But then what he said was just trying to be helpful, and Walt seemed to appreciate it even if it was against Mike's rules.

I don't think he's going to rat them out. If any heat comes about because of that guy, it'll probably be because he does something dumb/against the rules with "good" intentions of being helpful.

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Awesome the way they laid the groundwork here. We knew Todd was aiming to impress the rest of the crew. But you could tell, by the way he broke the rules to tell Walt how he solved the nannycam problem, that he was going to end up screwing something up with his proactive problem solving.

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Todd's about to fly too close to the sun.

chris1515: you were close, but I believe I found the exact spot where they shot the heist. It was actually a bit to the north on your link. Plus, the crossing and the trestle are positioned backwards than what you assumed. ie, the trestle is north of the crossing. (In my mind I had that backwards as well.) Compare the trails in the still image to the trails in the birds' eye view, especially the "forking" trail which matches up pretty well.

http://binged.it/N4beKM

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the link provided eariler about the episode said it was shot on a private rail line in NM.

seems alot of movies have used this set of same tracks.

Excellent work pointing out the error in my location. I was certain that I had the right crossing, but several things about the trestle didn't add up (the forking trail included), so I just assumed I had an old photo and went with that.

I watched the ending a couple of times, and to me it looks like Walter's eyes go to the shooter well before the shot, as if he's waiting on him to do what he's supposed to. Walt's squinting so it's hard to see, but at least I think that's what's happening.

I don't think there is enough time left on the clock for anything to come out of the kid getting shot. At least from a cop perspective. Remember this show has only covered 12 months. So that means that the is only a matter of weeks for the climax.

The kid would have to be missing for 24 hours for any kind of search party to be launch. Then they would have to find the body, then make a connection to the train, etc. etc.

The kids death could be the final nail but I think the real drama this introduces will be between Mike, walt and jess.

Not to sound like a deeck but why are you guys so concerned about what track, in what desert, in what city the scene was shot at? Who cares?

Because this is a thread where people discuss Breaking Bad.

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Remember this show has only covered 12 months. So that means that the is only a matter of weeks for the climax.

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We know the series extends at least another year past this date based on the premiere of the season.

Ag07, because that's what makes the show so bad ass. It's got such a "real" feeling that many, MANY people like to track the shooting locations in ABQ, etc. Why on earth would this cause you heartache?

Personally, I dig finding this kind of stuff in google earth, etc. Adds to my enjoyment of the show. So yeah, that's why I care.

What if the kid is still alive?

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This subject came up between me and a buddy who told me after seeing it last night on his DVR that he assumed the kid lived and that the spider jar somehow saved him, or made the bullet not fatal.

To me, I don't think they could do that. How grizzly of a situation would that be. Sure, they had a kid poisoned and another gunned down by drug dealers, but to have a similar situation to the first season where they had a dying man in the basement and had to decide to kill him or not except with a little boy?? There would be no way they could let the kid live at that point and expect to not get caught. It would just be unbearable to watch Walt think out what to do with the hurt kid.

And Jesse surely wouldn't allow them to kill him if he were still alive. Walt would probably have to kill Jesse and the kid too.



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A friend of mine is visiting his in-laws in NM. He just texted me a pic of the crappy motel and said he's going to look for Wendy.

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Did y'all not watch the previews? It showed a child's hand being covered with dirt.

Also, Jesse said something like "are we killers or dealers?" and Walt then replied he wants an empire or something.

The kid is dead. I doubt many kids can take a 9mm to the shoulder in the middle of nowhere.

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Nobody mentioned the possibility that the kid might just be severely wounded in need of a hospital.

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I think he's going to die but wont be instant unless he got him in the heart.

How bout a windy, wendy?

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Looks very close, but the balconies don't have those alternating blue and green sections on the show.
Could they have painted them recently? Or could there be more than one Crossroads Motel?



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