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*****Breaking Bad / Season 5*****

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Bunk Moreland
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1.I knew it. As soon as Mike started yelling at Walt, all I could think about was Walt looking at that gun in the bag. When they walked away from each other, I sighed in relief. Then, Walt turned around.


you should have known what was going down as soon as Walt said "no. I'll go get the bag." and especially known it when you saw Mike seemingly "at peace" in a random rural spot while he waited for Walt to show up.

Even though that scene was completely set up and you saw it coming a mile away, it was still cathartic. We all knew it was coming, and they did it perfect. A random, half-scared Walt killing him not because of logic, but because of emotion and having his ego checked. Then not shooting him with a killshot and allowing mike to drive away, but slowly suffer and die.

Mike's death could end up being a metaphor for the end of Walt's life. He was struck with the initial shot of being told he had terminal cancer, then began spiraling out of control, and while temporarily beating it, also knowing that the cancer will likely come back and take his life but he spends a few years suffering through turmoil, stress, losing his family, and the lingering knowledge that his time is limited and he will die. Just like Mike was shot, tried to get away or do anything to live, got back down by the river, and then slowly died instead of just being struck with the kill shot quickly. The death of Walt's life started when he was initially diagnosed. If it ends up being a solid metaphor, will we see Walt finally reach some acceptance of his life at the bitter end like Mike did with the "shut up and let me die at peace?" We shall see.

edit-bill beat me to it

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Amazing episode, by far this is the best show I've ever watched.

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Doug Christie
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you guys, I'm still struggling on whether Walt's a good guy or a bad guy. Another couple murders and I'm not sure I'll be able to root for him anymore.
AgAllStar91
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Only a so so episode since there was no walt jr and no breakfast. I think he's gonna play a big role in these last 9 episodes.

Rudyjax
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What episode in season 1 does Walt get a handjob from Skyler while shes surfing the internet? I thought it was the pilot but I just watched it on Netflix and it wasn't on there.
MW03
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You joke, but I love how Cranston played that scene. The look on Walt's face was a reminder that he's not a gangster and he's still the guy that had the rug ripped out with the cancer diagnosis.

I root for Walt because I don't wasn't Breaking Bad to ever end.
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What episode in season 1 does Walt get a handjob from Skyler while shes surfing the internet? I thought it was the pilot but I just watched it on Netflix and it wasn't on there.


Why, you want Skyler to help you get your rocks off?
Pro Ag
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Removed my own catty post. I should just ignore some posters.

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BillOnCapitolHill
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How much were the 9 suppose to get?

2M to the girl, 3M split 9 ways aint that much.



I have a feeling Jesse will be the downfall of Walt; I really want to see Walt go to prison, not die.
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you guys, I'm still struggling on whether Walt's a good guy or a bad guy.
Excellent sir.
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BillOnCapitolHill
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Im sorry but that picture is about the dewshiest thing Ive seen all week.
TomHaverford
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Im sorry but that picture is about the dewshiest thing Ive seen all week.


Leave Walt Jr Alone
The Gorgonites
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Skyler only had a few scenes and I hated every second of them. WHY WONT SHE JUST DIE!!!!

Not my favorite episode. Blue balls yet again. Always a big kick in the gut at the very end and then its an afterthought in the next episode (although this will certainly not be the case)
Doug Christie
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You joke, but I love how Cranston played that scene. The look on Walt's face was a reminder that he's not a gangster and he's still the guy that had the rug ripped out with the cancer diagnosis.


there's a big difference between the character and the actor. Cranston plays it so fantastically, and the fact that there are still people actually rooting for him is a testament to his acting.

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I root for Walt because I don't wasn't Breaking Bad to ever end.


the story is really incredible, and it's played well. I don't have to be "rooting" for walt to enjoy it. in fact, I'm mainly rooting for it to be really painful for him on his descent.
mhayden
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I didn't think the scene with Walt and Mike was that great, mostly because you knew it was going to happen. Not that it was bad, just that it didn't have much suspense.

I thought the far greater moment in the episode was Mike at the park. I really did not know if Mike was going to run and abandon his niece, or actually realize that is not the way he wants to be remembered and just letting the police take him in (possibly in a fashion where the girl didn't know her uncle was getting arrested).
Bunk Moreland
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the story is really incredible, and it's played well. I don't have to be "rooting" for walt to enjoy it. in fact, I'm mainly rooting for it to be really painful for him on his descent.



exactly.
Bunk Moreland
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honestly, the best scene of the episode, and the one that becomes the forgotten one due to the final half, was between Walt and Jesse when Walt is trying to get him to continue working. Without a doubt that scene wrapped up the Emmy again for Cranston. Going through the emotions of being so sure he could just con jesse into working for him again, to finally being told no and having to deal with not getting his way was gold.
mhayden
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Agree on that. Walt truly believed he could just manipulate Jessie (like he did a thousand times before) into working with him again. It was a guy that still thought as "Mr. White" that he was so much smarter than his "student", despite his student being the one smart enough to try and get out before it all comes down.
BillOnCapitolHill
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That scene is why I think Jesse will turn on him.



Also I loved Mike looking at the police and having his granddaughter smackdab in between em. The look on his face was perfect.
BillOnCapitolHill
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I definitely need Mike's network. He was able to listen to Hank in the DEA office without buffering or poor quality while sitting out in the middle of nowhere ready to toss the laptop in the well.
AgE2theBONE
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And once again, Hank makes his superiors look stupid. Perhaps one day they'll begin listening to him.
PatriotAg02
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We all know what's coming.

It's all slowly coming to a head and the only question is how Walt will die. Will it be the cancer? Will it be Hank? Will it be Skylar? Walt, Jr? Jesse???

I vote for HIMSELF. I think he'll kill himself.
jtmoney03
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I really didn't expect Mike to be the first character to go. However, this episode cleared up the last thing he needed to accomplish before going down or getting killed. He was able to leave the money to Kaylee, hopefully they got that out before the DEA caught the lawyer. My thought is he allowed Walt to bring him the bag, knowing that Walt would likely kill him due to his ego. Almost better to die than to spend time on the run and not be able to see Kaylee anymore.

The scene with Walt and Jessie was some pretty epic television. The student outsmarting the teacher is a great turning point in their relationship. And shows just how far Jessie has come in being the rational, level-headed one.

The logical choice was to have Todd fill in. But I'm not trusting him one bit. I think there was a theory many pages back that put Todd on the inside and I'm starting to believe that as well. He had some lines that made me think that, like when he said I'm going to need a lot of cooks to get this down. And don't worry about money until I understand this. Lines to bring Walt closer and trust him. Just a feeling, could be way off.

Great episode.
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He was able to leave the money to Kaylee, hopefully they got that out before the DEA caught the lawyer.

That was supposed to stay there in the safety deposit box for her until her 18th birthday. All the others were being collected weekly by the family members. So I'd guess that Kaylee's cash was confiscated, assuming the DEA checked all the safety deposit boxes the lawyer had charge over.
mhayden
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Agree with Catch that I think the implication is that the money for Kaylee is gone. Mike and anything Mike could have left are gone from her life -- he never "made it out".

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The logical choice was to have Todd fill in. But I'm not trusting him one bit. I think there was a theory many pages back that put Todd on the inside and I'm starting to believe that as well


I think him killing a kid kinda puts that theory out to pasture.
agjag06
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I know Walt is the "bad guy" now, but I am still rooting for I'm to "win." My favorite scenes are where he is manipulating people close to him or power playing the other bad guys into saying his name. I see the transformation of Walt from being a wuss to being a boss. That's the transformation I'm most invested in. I want him to be Pacino. I will probably be disappointed if he has some cathartic realization about his ego at the end. Other people seem to dislike him now and want him to lose because he has become the bad guy. I don't, I get satisfaction out of seeing him becoming better at being the bad guy. Which leads me to believe there are two perspectives to watch the show through.
AgAllStar91
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It looked as though from the preview for the finale that there's some blood being shed in the prison bathrooms. Either someone dropped the soap a few too many times or Todd's guys on the inside are taking care of some of the 9.
agjag06
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To clarify the two perspectives...when Jessie told him I know how much money you needed, ~$750k. The Walt is a bad guy I dislike group thought that he was an idiot for not taking the 5 million. The other group, sided with Walt. I'm in the group that sided with Heisenberg.
agjag06
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#TeamHeisenberg
PatriotAg02
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You'll be disappointed when he off's himself then........

No way f'n cancer takes the great Heisenberg down!!!
DAM
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I have a feeling jesse and skylar team up to try and bring down walt. not sure how, but i have a feeling that skylar is going to be his downfall.

dam
BQ_90
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I missed it, how did the DEA figure out to tail that lawyer. Wasn't Saul the one who filed the restraining order? Why aren't they following or watching him?


PatriotAg02
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Gomez briefed Hank after he got chewed out for trailing Mike. Hank told Gomez to tail the lawyer.

Also, Hank figured out that it was fishy that the 9 prison dudes all used that lawyer but Mike didn't.

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BQ_90
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But when was the bank lawyer linked to Mike?


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