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Hans Zimmer scores coming the last three months of this year...

10.2020 - Wonder Woman 1984
11.2020 - No Time to Die
11.2020 - Hillbilly Elegy
12.2020 - Dune
12.2020 - Top Gun: Maverick
12.2020 - Harry Haft

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My Spotify is gonna have a busy fall.

Is this a Windtrap?

Haven't read the books. Figured you guys would know.

I am going with a ecology test site. I'd imagine the wind traps are going to be pretty close to the way they were portrayed in the lynch movie.

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I am going with a ecology test site. I'd imagine the wind traps are going to be pretty close to the way they were portrayed in the lynch movie.

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Agree.

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Sarduakar said:

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Well that is my guess at what it is. the Freman use it to pull moisture out of the air to collect and use. It could be an imperial ecologist station ( where the person that we complained about them switching gender works) or maybe it is a covid testing station.

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wait, they made Kynes a chick? WTF?

i'm not actually upset. weird change to make, though.

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She is also black, but my issue with that is all Freman should be the same whatever that is.

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Sarduakar said:

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schmendeler said:

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Sarduakar said:

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Well that is my guess at what it is. the Freman use it to pull moisture out of the air to collect and use. It could be an imperial ecologist station ( where the person that we complained about them switching gender works) or maybe it is a covid testing station.

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wait, they made Kynes a chick? WTF?

i'm not actually upset. weird change to make, though.

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She is also black, but my issue with that is all Freman should be the same whatever that is.

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Kynes was an offworlder who went native.

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Can youbet confirm

Just finished Part 1 Book 1 where Paul became hyper aware

Must say that so far from reading the book, the syfy miniseries didn't leave much out.

Fantastic read

If all goes according to plan - and at this point, who knows if it will - the first Dune trailer is finally set for an international theatrical debut on Wednesday, August 12th with the ten-year anniversary re-release of Inception. That's two weeks from today. However, Inception's ten-year anniversary screenings aren't set to premiere domestically until Friday, August 21st. So, if no online release for the Dune trailer, we might not be able to see it here until the 21st, and only in theaters at that. If it were any other studio, I'd put money on a simultaneous online release on the 12th, but because it's Warner Bros., and they sometimes like to premiere blockbuster trailers theatrically first, anything is on the table. So we'll just have to wait and see. Either way, with theaters already open internationally, and WB committed to servicing them despite domestic conditions, it looks like we're finally getting the Dune trailer, in some form or fashion, at some point next month...

https://trailer-track.com/2020/07/29/report-dune-wonder-woman-1984-trailers-inception-10th-anniversary/

Figured when I saw the update to this thread, it would be an annoucement that Dune has been delayed until X date 2021 ...

Here's to hoping they can keep the December release.

It feels like we've entered a new phase where international releases, at least, *will* be happening this fall/holiday season. Which means the promotional machine has to keep churning. There's still a chance we might not see Dune in theaters domestically this year, but it sounds like it's full steam ahead internationally.

Ugh, what a beating! Looking forward to this one just as much as Tenet!

Well I don't see the wife agreeing to a trip to England or some place to see a movie.

https://theplaylist.net/denis-villeneuve-shanghai-masterclass-20200801/

If I were to order a hardcover copy of the book, for reading post-movie, is there any particular edition you guys would recommend? It looks like this is the only one Amazon offers at the moment, which looks cool/good enough, just curious if there's another iteration I'm missing out on...

https://www.amazon.com/Dune-Penguin-Galaxy-Frank-Herbert/dp/0143111582

Your gif loaded before the tweet, and I was in legit suspense wondering if it was going to be in reply to that tweet or the Chalamet one.

Ooops. Wow

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Spoiler Golden path discussion:

This isn't meant to be political, but I recently reread the Dune books. They're actually quite brilliant. As I understand it, Leto's Golden Path was many things, among them was a centuries-long effort to remove human patterns and apathy from the human race so we don't' render ourselves extinct.

He essentially "trapped" generations of people in a stale existence that chafed at who we are as warm-blooded animals. He didn't allow violence (except by him) and made the entire human race realize that peace was, in many respects, not what people truly wanted. They wanted good. They wanted bad. They wanted struggle. This is what gives us purpose as opposed to mere existence.

When he was killed, the human race expanded, and became more violent than ever before because of the cycles in human behavior Leto broke, right?

(Again, not trying to be political) I observe today how people are being asked to stay home, and no matter what side you're on regarding that issue, everyone seems to be seeking out the conflict. Everyone is looking for purpose and struggle, even when we could be relaxing about our homes in "peace". Many of us are really having a tough time for various reasons after 2-3 months of quarantine. Imagine the ramifications of being forcefully kept this way for a millennia?! It would definitely take an emperor to force that to happen, though I'm not sure that we'd branch out afterwards, or just be mindless drones.

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Interesting. It's been so long since I read Dune my grasp of the finer details is long gone. I do have this on my reread list for this year though.

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This is a good reading of the Golden Path. One of the goals of Leto II was to demonstrate that absolute safety without meaning / conflict was not very different than death. The parallels with Leto II's home becoming more and more like a tomb over time, his relative boredom with existence, and continual defeat of Idaho's attempts on his life due to his prescient abilities are a parallel to the existence of the rest of the human species during this time.

So, the parallels with the quarantine and woke culture / ANTIFA are good analysis. We have to find causes to get behind, to find passionate struggle. If we don't have a major enemy to rally around to fight, we will find other, less important enemies / struggles, and that results in unnecessary division between each other. Are micro aggressions and centuries old statues really worth burning cities over? This natural instinct to need something to fight for can easily be manipulated, and often is.

The second part of the Golden Path though has to do with the contradictions between prescience and free will. If you can see the future, and your actions can have an impact on the future, do you really have choice to make those actions? The ramifications of your actions are already determined by your prescient vision. The golden path sought not just the scattering, but human kind's separation from prescience as a way of life. The Bene Gesserit had used prescience to rule humanity for a very long time. Leto just used it better, and more forcefully. By restricting spice, humans had to invent tools to replace prescience to navigate space, and they were able to divorce themselves from the spice in order to scatter. In addition, by having a race of humans that could not be detected through prescience, humans were able to scatter into unknown regions of the universe and expand without being "spied" on.

This was necessary to avoid an apocalypse that would have wiped out humans. By spreading to the wind, for one, and avoiding the dependence on the spice / prescience, humans couldn't be tracked down by an unnamed enemy in the future.

The dependency on spice / prescience to preserve the Empire has some parallels to the 1970's / 1980's when the books were written. Dependence on oil, our inability to travel through space, the need for scientific advancement to spread beyond earth, our tendency to follow our charismatic leaders because that is an easier path than revolution, all mixed in there.

I'm excited for the series.

I am on Book 3 - Children of Dune (about halfway through) - can't wait to finish!

This may have been asked before; but is the Dune movie going to be all of Book 1? Or is Book 1 going to be broken into 2-3 movies? It's hard to imagine they can get a book of that much content into a movie and still convey everything needed.

From what I understand, the movie is roughly the first half of book one. The video has since been taken down for some reason, but I posted a YouTube interview above with the production designer, who said there are no sandworms in the first movie, save for in a quick dream sequence. He said they're mostly saving them for the second movie. I've yet to read the book(s), but maybe that will clue some of you book readers in as to where the first movie might end?

The book is kind of naturally divided into 2 parts - part one, without giving away spoilers, is simply put, before Paul goes on the run and part 2 is after Paul goes on the run. And the book is definitely long enough to be split into two parts to do it service.

It just sucks that they're not showing a sand warm at all in the 1st part because there is at least one scene in the book that introduces you to the sand worms before Paul goes on the run and I think that would have been a nice scene in the movie.