It is a lot of world building at the beginning.
***DUNE*** (Denis Villeneuve)
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Gotcha.
Also, a huge part of the book is internal monologue. That's just not going to be easy to put on screen.
"Dune" is a weird story that can be viewed through so many different perspectives: environmentalist lens, a political intrigue lens, a cautionary tale on the danger of messianic figures, among others. His complaint seems to be that the story is told through a lens that he doesn't appreciate.
It's a massive epic and also an intimate story about different characters pondering their place in the march of history and humanity. It's going to be impossible to make a movie that fits everyone's "pet" interpretation of the book.
"Dune" is a weird story that can be viewed through so many different perspectives: environmentalist lens, a political intrigue lens, a cautionary tale on the danger of messianic figures, among others. His complaint seems to be that the story is told through a lens that he doesn't appreciate.
It's a massive epic and also an intimate story about different characters pondering their place in the march of history and humanity. It's going to be impossible to make a movie that fits everyone's "pet" interpretation of the book.
I thought I couldn't get more hyped up, yet here I am overflowing with hype. Gonna go annoy my wife and make her watch the trailer with me again.
These questions are borderline impossible to answer without talking plot points, you realize?TCTTS said:
Revisiting David's IndieWire review real quick, book readers, how much merit could this have / how "nervous" are you that this could be true? Granted, David is obviously in the minority, just curious to hear thoughts from the book readers on this.It’s hard to overstate how little actually happens in Denis Villeneuve's #Dune, which flows like an overture that’s stretched for the duration of an entire opera. @davidehrlich reviews: https://t.co/ogBxecXaps pic.twitter.com/K8TaZbpcTQ
— IndieWire (@IndieWire) September 4, 2021
I get that. But from what I've inferred from discussion on the board the last few months, book readers seem to have a pretty good idea where the movie likely ends. So I guess what I'm asking is - without spoiling - if it ends where you think it ends, do you guys see enough story there, before that moment, to merit a two-and-a-half-hour movie? I'm not asking *for* the story, just if you could see it running a bit thin or not?
Jeff99 said:
Also, a huge part of the book is internal monologue. That's just not going to be easy to put on screen.
"Dune" is a weird story that can be viewed through so many different perspectives: environmentalist lens, a political intrigue lens, a cautionary tale on the danger of messianic figures, among others. His complaint seems to be that the story is told through a lens that he doesn't appreciate.
It's a massive epic and also an intimate story about different characters pondering their place in the march of history and humanity. It's going to be impossible to make a movie that fits everyone's "pet" interpretation of the book.
Great answer that makes a lot of sense. Thanks.
TCTTS said:
I get that. But from what I've inferred from discussion on the board the last few months, book readers seem to have a pretty good idea where the movie likely ends. So I guess what I'm asking is - without spoiling - if it ends where you think it ends, do you guys see enough story there, before that moment, to merit a two-and-a-half-hour movie? I'm not asking *for* the story, just if you could see it running a bit thin or not?
The book is overtly building to something happening, or not happening; characters discuss trying to make it happen or avoid it. It's the driving point of the overall plot. This movie will not reach the critical moment.
To take it back to LotR comparisons, imagine the first movie ended when the fellowship formed and the last shot was them leaving Rivendell. Tons of really great and important stuff happened before then, but even the uninitiated would feel like the story was unfinished.
This is CLEARLY the first part of a two-chapter work, and it sounds like everyone will feel that even if they've never read the book.
Good way to explain it. That makes sense.
Yeah imagine if Star Wars OT was a Duology and the first movie ended with Luke and Yoda pulling the Xwing from the swamp in Dagobah and Luke saying "I have to help them, they're my friends..." and takes off in his X-Wing... <end>
That's probably what this will feel like.
That's probably what this will feel like.
Two things:TCTTS said:
Revisiting David's IndieWire review real quick, book readers, how much merit could this have / how "nervous" are you that this could be true? Granted, David is obviously in the minority, just curious to hear thoughts from the book readers on this.It’s hard to overstate how little actually happens in Denis Villeneuve's #Dune, which flows like an overture that’s stretched for the duration of an entire opera. @davidehrlich reviews: https://t.co/ogBxecXaps pic.twitter.com/K8TaZbpcTQ
— IndieWire (@IndieWire) September 4, 2021
1. For a guy complaining about how bloated the movie felt, Ehrlich should really look in the mirror - I needed a piss break halfway through his meandering, bloated mess of thoughts.
2. It's possible. If the focus is as tightly on Paul as the review indicates, you could run the risk of seeing the scope but not attaching any meaning to it; though it does appear that there are at least interludes with other characters. Additionally, there's a lot of stage to set, and the book is something of a slow build itself. Without spoiling, for the first 40% or so of the novel, Paul is a pretty passive character.
I have a suspicion that the 2 movie at least goes into the 2nd book somewhat.TCTTS said:
I get that. But from what I've inferred from discussion on the board the last few months, book readers seem to have a pretty good idea where the movie likely ends. So I guess what I'm asking is - without spoiling - if it ends where you think it ends, do you guys see enough story there, before that moment, to merit a two-and-a-half-hour movie? I'm not asking *for* the story, just if you could see it running a bit thin or not?
https://i.postimg.cc/rpHKr9JQ/IMG-0770.jpg
Talk about dense and hard to read, that article...woof
#TimothéeChalamet is starting to dress like Liza Minnelli. pic.twitter.com/OL15in1yJ0
— Scott Gorenstein (@ScottGorenstein) September 4, 2021
It's 85 percent on Rt right now, I don't worry about the detractors too much.
I'm definitely not going to take the effort, but it would be interesting to chart where highly anticipated or hyped films like Dune are for early/preview ratings versus where they wind up once in wide release.oragator said:
It's 85 percent on Rt right now, I don't worry about the detractors too much.
From the premiere.
Zendaya looking great.
Zendaya looking great.
ag88man said:
From the premiere.
Zendaya looking great.
Is that a velour suit?
She likes to be ensconced in velvet.Sapper Redux said:ag88man said:
From the premiere.
Zendaya looking great.
Is that a velour suit?
Is that a velour suit?
To each his own. Maybe he's into ice dancing or something.
To each his own. Maybe he's into ice dancing or something.
"I'm not as big a fan of velour as you are."
"It seems as if Dune is Warner Bros.’ awards priority and could claim a populist best picture slot..."
— DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) September 8, 2021
Read our latest wave of early Oscar predictions: https://t.co/8GZ117TTIF
Does that even make sense?
Well considering that it is used as a dewormer, it makes enough sense for a Babylon bee article.
That's weird to call Dune 'populist'. Are we just conflating all Sci-fi with Marvel/Star Wars now?
PatAg said:
Does that even make sense?
Just silly, if the post is going to start people arguing, that wasn't my intent, and I'm happy to remove it.
heddleston said:
That's weird to call Dune 'populist'. Are we just conflating all Sci-fi with Marvel/Star Wars now?
It's not an indie Oscar bait movie coming out in limited release. It's a massive blockbuster in wide release and IMAX, therefor "populist."
Ivermectin is approved for use in humans to treat intestinal strongyloidiasis and onchocerciasis.Champ Bailey said:PatAg said:
Does that even make sense?
Just silly, if the post is going to start people arguing, that wasn't my intent, and I'm happy to remove it.
So, it makes sense to me.
The Dune/worm tie in joke went over your head.
How? Ivermectin is used to treat parasitic worms.Chipotlemonger said:
The Dune/worm tie in joke went over your head.
Paul is using "extra strength" Ivermectin to treat these worms because they are very large. And it plays into the current zeitgeist with Ivermectin.
Seems pretty straight forward to me.
Ahhh, dewormer. I retract my statement. I was thinking more 'horse medicine'Sea Speed said:
Well considering that it is used as a dewormer, it makes enough sense for a Babylon bee article.
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