I believe so, I've heard rumors that brolin doesnt want to continue tho, not sure how true that is
Sicario 2: Soldado
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Oh yeah. Sheridan wrote this right after sicario and they shot it a couple years ago. Production company has already said 3 is alive somewhere in the process.
My guess is they close Alejandro storyline out in 3, then they can decide to let it become a "world" or end with a trilogy.
Del Toro has said he wants to do another.
The other thing is that while we have same characters, Sheridan had said this was not meant to be a sequel or prequel or anything tied to the first one other than the characters and world was the same. It was stand-alone. So maybe that is leading to some folks not being too excited with it "compared" to the first...sheridan didn't really intend it to be.
My guess is they close Alejandro storyline out in 3, then they can decide to let it become a "world" or end with a trilogy.
Del Toro has said he wants to do another.
The other thing is that while we have same characters, Sheridan had said this was not meant to be a sequel or prequel or anything tied to the first one other than the characters and world was the same. It was stand-alone. So maybe that is leading to some folks not being too excited with it "compared" to the first...sheridan didn't really intend it to be.
Lot of people giving this movie flack already, calling it a conservative porn film for the anti Muslim and anti Mexican theme. Glad to know movie critics aren't partisan
azulAg said:
Lot of people giving this movie flack already, calling it a conservative porn film for the anti Muslim and anti Mexican theme. Glad to know movie critics aren't partisan
There's your explanation for the mediocre RT numbers
The audience score and critic score are fairly similar as of right now.
Just reading this thread and Twitter etc.. I feel like some folks just wanted it to be a different movie than the makers were going for. And that's fine. I'm always ok with ambiguous endings especially when that's sort of an underlying theme but I get why some folks didn't like this one as much.
I loved it. Not quite as much as the first but loved it nonetheless.
I loved it. Not quite as much as the first but loved it nonetheless.
Enjoyed it right up until the ending. But makes me want to see another.
I do miss Emily blunt type character tho.
I do miss Emily blunt type character tho.
I get why it was ambiguous, it needed that set-up for the balls-to-the-wall finale. I think a lot of people's expectations were unfairly lofty by the fact that Sheridan has knocked his first three scripts out of the park. Personally I really liked it. I did not think it was as good as the first installment, but then again Sicario is one of my top 5 movies of the decade.
Yeah she was initially attached to this one but fell off along the way.
I posted in spoilers earlier how I'd love her to be re introduced into the 3rd.
I posted in spoilers earlier how I'd love her to be re introduced into the 3rd.
New Mexico and Albq. in general have phenomenal tax benefits for film folks. It is a big industry for them when films want to shoot in the desert.Wycliffe_03 said:Brian Earl Spilner said:
I absolutely noticed this as soon as they showed the first shot of McAllen. They filmed in NM, so makes sense.
I think they did the same with a lot of HOHW. Wonder if they get tax breaks or other incentives for filming in NM vs TX?
Matsui said:
Enjoyed it right up until the ending. But makes me want to see another.
I do miss Emily blunt type character tho.
I liked that it didn't meet the Hollywood quota for having a strong female lead. I love Blunt, but I felt that her presence would have only watered down the gritty violence.
I love the first one, I was very underwhelmed by the second. I just didn't think there was nearly as much thought put into the story.
I'll give the move 7/10. Like many, I thought the plot had holes.
Trying to remember who/where they were attempting to deliver the daughter to when the convey was shot-up by the "escorts". Where they taking her to a prearranged third party safe house in Mexico?
Trying to remember who/where they were attempting to deliver the daughter to when the convey was shot-up by the "escorts". Where they taking her to a prearranged third party safe house in Mexico?
they were taking her to a Mexican federal facility in Matamoros territory to force reyes' men to have to fight their way out once they got her.CT75 said:
I'll give the move 7/10. Like many, I thought the plot had holes.
Trying to remember who/where they were attempting to deliver the daughter to when the convey was shot-up by the "escorts". Where they taking her to a prearranged third party safe house in Mexico?
Loved it.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/sicario-day-soldado-poorly-written-blockbuster-filled-racist-stereotypes-hollywood-ncna888111
Moron, the movie wasn't written a month ago
Moron, the movie wasn't written a month ago
so should i go see this - i have not seen the original.
family got tickets but i said i would exchange mine for something else (JW2 or Inc2)
I do love Del Toro and Brolin.
Saw it today. I enjoyed the original and I enjoyed this one. I'd have to go back and re-watch the original to be able to say which I enjoyed more, but I will say that I was very much impressed with Brolin-Del Toro part 2 for this year.
It took me a couple of minutes to process the ending. I think I'm correct in my assessment that a good bit of time has elapsed between the time when we see Del Toro with that big, nasty hole in his face to the time when he meets the kid in the mall fast food place with the line, "So you want to be a Sicario?" given that he was completely healed.
I loved Brolin's line early in the movie to the captured pirate, "Eventually I'll find a brother you can't live without".
Brolin has had a pretty good run lately, with the movie about the firefighters last year, Thanos, and now this bad-ass mofo.
It took me a couple of minutes to process the ending. I think I'm correct in my assessment that a good bit of time has elapsed between the time when we see Del Toro with that big, nasty hole in his face to the time when he meets the kid in the mall fast food place with the line, "So you want to be a Sicario?" given that he was completely healed.
I loved Brolin's line early in the movie to the captured pirate, "Eventually I'll find a brother you can't live without".
Brolin has had a pretty good run lately, with the movie about the firefighters last year, Thanos, and now this bad-ass mofo.
You should see the first one to get an idea of the characters background. And cause it's incredible.
There was a caption at the bottom that read "one year later"
Cinco Ranch Aggie said:
Saw it today. I enjoyed the original and I enjoyed this one. I'd have to go back and re-watch the original to be able to say which I enjoyed more, but I will say that I was very much impressed with Brolin-Del Toro part 2 for this year.
It took me a couple of minutes to process the ending. I think I'm correct in my assessment that a good bit of time has elapsed between the time when we see Del Toro with that big, nasty hole in his face to the time when he meets the kid in the mall fast food place with the line, "So you want to be a Sicario?" given that he was completely healed.
I loved Brolin's line early in the movie to the captured pirate, "Eventually I'll find a brother you can't live without".
Brolin has had a pretty good run lately, with the movie about the firefighters last year, Thanos, and now this bad-ass mofo.
Yes you're correct in your assessment
Also, some of the violence stereotypes are indeed true, regardless of who is protesting right now. So who gives a **** who is protesting what. This is a fictional movie for Christ's sake. Not everything has to be a social statement.Pahdz said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/sicario-day-soldado-poorly-written-blockbuster-filled-racist-stereotypes-hollywood-ncna888111
Moron, the movie wasn't written a month ago
But yeah, this guy is off his rocker. Movies aren't made in three months. This thing was written before trump even took office.
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Hey, I'm an old. I probably dozed off for a moment.FancyKetchup14 said:
There was a caption at the bottom that read "one year later"
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I love the virtue signaling outcry from liberal critics. You have a near-monopoly on political ideology espoused in your movies. And have had this for decades, with rare exceptions. One action movie has the audacity to push no political agenda at all whatsoever, and you weep and gnash teeth and cry "racism!" because it didn't push some unicorns and fairy dust bullsh** version of the border or "white oppressor" story line that falls perfectly in line with your agenda. I mean, it is a FACT that, along with many good decent people, quite a few hardened criminals and gangsters are getting into this country illegally. I live in Houston and would never need anyone to tell me this.
Blows my mind.
Blows my mind.
I always tell people that unless you've lived in a border state to Mexico you should probably just stay out of the discussion.
I was a little confused why they kept referencing the Matamoros Cartel instead of using its actual name. (Gulf Cartel)
In any case, was cool hearing my hometown mentioned so much.
Matamoros represent!
In any case, was cool hearing my hometown mentioned so much.
Matamoros represent!
The wife and I saw it last night and we both thought it was great!
I can't put my finger on exactly why I liked the first more. I did like how Emily Blunts character, despite all her best intentions and playing by the book, accomplished NOTHING in fighting the cartels. I thought that was an interesting take on the actual situation of dealing with "the war on drugs". The first just had a grittier feel to it.
This second one just seemed like a great action movie. That is not a cut at the film, just a different movie than the first. There seemed to be much more of a linear story line to this one.
I can't put my finger on exactly why I liked the first more. I did like how Emily Blunts character, despite all her best intentions and playing by the book, accomplished NOTHING in fighting the cartels. I thought that was an interesting take on the actual situation of dealing with "the war on drugs". The first just had a grittier feel to it.
This second one just seemed like a great action movie. That is not a cut at the film, just a different movie than the first. There seemed to be much more of a linear story line to this one.
Saw it again and liked it even more the 2nd time around. The subtext of the dialogue is more noticeable when you can focus on the meaning behind what people are saying and doing.
Loved Brolin's character arc as well.
Loved Brolin's character arc as well.
This is one of the most badass movies I've ever seen. I walked out with a full beard, and I had shaved before going in... also I can't grow a beard.
Pahdz said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/sicario-day-soldado-poorly-written-blockbuster-filled-racist-stereotypes-hollywood-ncna888111
Moron, the movie wasn't written a month ago
Probably one of the most embarrassing and comical articles I've ever read. Hilarious seeing the fantasy world some of these people live in. How dare a movie show things the way they actually are.
Have seen it twice now as well and my thoughts exactly. The story flowed so much better for me the second time around and I caught so many more off handed lines that helped explain things that were a little confusing on first pass. Absolutely loved it.
Saw it with friends the first time and family the second and even my 89-year-old grandmother dug it. She was asking all kinds of cartel questions after.
Saw it with friends the first time and family the second and even my 89-year-old grandmother dug it. She was asking all kinds of cartel questions after.
That said, there's still one thing that's bugging the crap out of me. After two viewings, I still CANNOT figure out why Benicio activates the tracking beacon at the border. What does this accomplish? Why would he not want to try and get across completely undetected?
TCTTS said:
That said, there's still one thing that's bugging the crap out of me. After two viewings, I still CANNOT figure out why Benicio activates the tracking beacon at the border. What does this accomplish? Why would he not want to try and get across completely undetected?
I think he thought he was not going to make it through.
Which is why he specifically told her to say one lie and then didn't stick with it. He knew they'd take her and then get taken out by the Americans chasing the beacon. I guess he was betting they wouldn't kill the girl.
He activated it on the way to the busses right? Before getting split up. My guess is no matter what happened he wanted to ensure the US would locate her.
Also, the way they were going over was going to be with a crop of immigrants and not sneaking in by themselves, which would have made it much harder for Matt and crew to "do what they had to do" with so many others there. And Alejandro knew what that meant in that beautifully executed phone call scene.
Could have been a couple different motivations. But mostly it was a plot device to find her after she got kidnapped
Also, the way they were going over was going to be with a crop of immigrants and not sneaking in by themselves, which would have made it much harder for Matt and crew to "do what they had to do" with so many others there. And Alejandro knew what that meant in that beautifully executed phone call scene.
Could have been a couple different motivations. But mostly it was a plot device to find her after she got kidnapped
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