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Need a Rainbox Six movie.
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Honestly surprised so many loved without remorse. To me it is one of his weakest books. I'm not sure when he wrote it in relation to all the others but it felt pretty sophomoric to me in tone and premise. At least compared to his other work.
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Matt_ag98 said:

Hell yes! Have been waiting for this, agreed it will probably have to be toned down as I remember some of those descriptions of what Clark does to what's-her-names pimp are better brutal.

Also I can't remember does this one deal with Islamic Terrorists, whoops I meant "Neo-Nazis" or not?


There is a lot of back and forth to Vietnam, but I'm sure they will update that to the Middle East.
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So if Amazon gets this, does that mean they have the "rights" to use the Clark character in the Jack Ryan series or no?
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Claude! said:

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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

I have no issue with the casting, but admittedly a black man is not what I pictured when reading any of these novels.
I still have no issue with the casting, but with all of these white actors curently bowing out of productions where they are portraying non-whites, shouldn't that apply to this production as well? Admittedly it has been many years since I read any of Clancy's novels, but I really don't recall the Clark character being black.
As an Irish-American, I'm still so truly and deeply offended by this casting. This is institutional racism and it should not be tolerated.

Actually I don't give a ****.
Maybe he's Black Irish.
I know you are making a joke, but black irish is actually a thing. Picture Colin Farrell
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yukmonkey said:

Need a Rainbox Six movie.


That would be a badass follow up. I'm making my way through all the Ryanverse for the first time, and The Campus would be really good too. You have to establish JR Sr.'s entire story though for it to make a whole lot of sense.
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Champ Bailey said:

yukmonkey said:

Need a Rainbox Six movie.


That would be a badass follow up. I'm making my way through all the Ryanverse for the first time, and The Campus would be really good too. You have to establish JR Sr.'s entire story though for it to make a whole lot of sense.

Theres enough Clancy work to use without dipping into the trash that is the work after his death.
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I'm pretty sure they could make movies one for one with the Clancy books, especially later novels with Jack Jr. and they would make money. I know I would watch every single one of them. But keep in mind I've read all of the books and I probably watched every episode of the Unit - not exactly discerning.
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expresswrittenconsent said:

Champ Bailey said:

yukmonkey said:

Need a Rainbox Six movie.


That would be a badass follow up. I'm making my way through all the Ryanverse for the first time, and The Campus would be really good too. You have to establish JR Sr.'s entire story though for it to make a whole lot of sense.

Theres enough Clancy work to use without dipping into the trash that is the work after his death.


Hot take alert. The work after his death may not be as technical as when Clancy was writing, but they are still good books with solid characters.
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Lol, no, they're complete trash.
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After WR, I never looked at a pressure chamber the same way...
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I completely missed that this movie was actually happening but today's "Peter Henderson" revelation had me pull up the WR Wikipedia page where I saw the Michael b Jordan project is filming (or is maybe complete?).

Maybe releasing in February?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Without_Remorse_(film)?wprov=sfti1

This is one of my favorite books about one of my favorite fictional characters. I expect to be disappointed by the movie but I'll still enjoy it.
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New trailer out today.

jeffk
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Youtube version:

Bunkhouse96
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John Kelly becomes John Clark. This is the origin story for John Clark
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Ah, thanks! I'd forgotten about the name change. It's been too long since I've read the books (obviously).
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So... nothing really like the book outside of the wife dying. I guessed i missed the plot prior to the trailer
jeffk
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Yeah, they've updated it to modern times and subbed in some shadowy international group in place of the local gang as his main enemy.
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Not related to the movie really, but saw this article the other day and thought it was interesting. Copyright laws are some of the most confusing BS, regardless of the title.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/judge-cant-figure-out-who-owns-rights-to-jack-ryan-character

Looking forward to the movie. MJ could be a great John Clark, especially if the movie does well and we can get into the Rainbow 6 stuff after.
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Looks like it would fit as a Black Panther prequel
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jeffk said:

New trailer out today.




Sooo...not really anything resembling the book at all
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Probably won't be like the book but that trailer looks pretty good
Claude!
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I am a little confused about the last part of the trailer with (very minor trailer spoilers) jumping into the car he just lit on fire. I guess it looks cool, but why would anyone do that?
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Thunder18 said:

jeffk said:

New trailer out today.




Sooo...not really anything resembling the book at all


Nope.

The parallel of him in the book between Vietnam and the streets was great. Very methodical/stealthy in both. This trailer makes it look like he's just Rambo gunning people down. I'll still watch it but my expectations are lowered.
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Just FYI...

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TCTTS said:

Just FYI...


No offense to the writer, but this does temper my expectations in a massive way. Why not just use the story Tom Clancy presented?
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was hoping for homeless disguise with boomstick and Int'l Scout vs muscle car chase scene
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Because that's a novel and not a screenplay. Also the timeline has to shift to fit the more modern Jack Ryan-verse Amazon is laying out.

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jeffk said:

New trailer out today.


He waited almost a year.....but couldn't take five seconds to spell check his post before hitting 'Send'?
expresswrittenconsent
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This book has never been adaptable to screen. Many dorks are gonna be upset that it doesn't adequately portray their rape revenge fantasies.
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expresswrittenconsent said:

This book has never been adaptable to screen. Many dorks are gonna be upset that it doesn't adequately portray their rape revenge fantasies.


Yeeesh man, no need to go there, like the different pace and suspense to the book, glad they made your Michael B Jordan standard shoot em up tho, also don't read what happens to your environmentalist buddies at the end of Rainbow Six book, will make you write to Biden and Nacy to cancel Clancy books like Dr Suess
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Saw the trailer. Basically the only thing it has in common with the book is a few names. Hard pass for me.
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With how much this board loves Taylor Sheridan (as do I), I'm legit surprised by how many "meh"/"hard pass"-like posts I'm seeing. I thought there would be WAY more excitement for this, for that fact alone. Sheridan teaming with Michael B. Jordan to tell a revenge story set in the world of Tom Clancy sounds like a TexAgs wet dream. Instead, people are b/tching that this isn't faithful to what sounds like some pretty dated source material? Huh? This looks awesome. Sign me the hell up.
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TCTTS said:

With how much this board loves Taylor Sheridan (as do I), I'm legit surprised by how many "meh"/"hard pass"-like posts I'm seeing. I thought there would be WAY more excitement for this, for that fact alone. Sheridan teaming with Michael B. Jordan to tell a revenge story set in the world of Tom Clancy sounds like a TexAgs wet dream. Instead, people are b/tching that this isn't faithful to what sounds like some pretty dated source material? Huh? This looks awesome. Sign me the hell up.


It will probably be good and entertaining, but I'd say the disappointment/complaining is in the fact that this looks more like a generic action movie with some characters that have the same name as some Tom Clancy characters, opposed to a true Without Remorse movie.

I hope I'm wrong but this seems more like another Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit as opposed to Hunt for Red October
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I hear you. I just figured the Sheridan factor would make up for that. Because he doesn't really make bad movies. In fact, he seems to be TexAgs' favorite filmmaker.
 
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