I'm not sure I agree. Geralt did a fair bit, too. Although some of it was purely diplomatic.

Also, the boobs, man. The boobs.

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I enjoyed season 1, but the title is misleading. This is a Girl Power story about Yennefer and Ciri. The title should be "The Princess and the Mage".

Has a single female posted on this 250 long thread?

Seems like the bait and switch worked.

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If by 'girl power' you mean, "Yennefer gets to get naked whenever she wants", I'll agree with you.

Yennefer is naked a lot in season 1. Not a bad thing.

Even as a hunchback she had nice tits.

The main saga is half Geralt half Ciri (essentially), but the first two books are 100% Geralt. I don't think they harmed the show by focusing on the females - they just harmed the show by focusing on Ciri about 6 episodes before they needed to.

Next season, Ciri and Geralt should be of equal importance, IMO.

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Even as a hunchback she had nice tits.

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The sex scene where the audience clapped when she orgasmed was outstanding

You won't need TV for at least 150 hours as you play through W3 and the DLC

I watched this earlier this month, and didn't care much for it. The timelines were confusing early on, but I can forgive that. I feel like I know next to nothing about the world they're in or how it works.

Despite watching the whole season, I don't know what the "rules" are. What are the major kingdoms? Who are the power brokers? WTF is a witcher? Do the mages really run everything? Can a girl with "Talent" just show up and dominate the mages despite ignoring all of the lessons given, and acting like a petulant child who has to get what she wants or she'll pout about it? She then gets to lead them into battle... and does nothing until the end when she just destroys everyone.

I'm new to it as well and if you passively watched the show, you probably missed a lot of detail.

Witcher, from what I gather, is a mutated human that is force sensitive, err chaos sensitive. In a land of humans, elves, and monsters, the witcher has a taste of all three (considering monsters are often called mutations too).

Yennifer was not just some graduate of Hogwarts at the time of the battle. That battle occurs well into her career. She was at court for a number of years, then recall the assassin with the spider, then she became independent. She did that for a number of years, including the dragon hunt, until the war broke out.

Why was she able to go to power level 9000? Well her witch prof suggested they were unique because they let their feeling flow from the force, err chaos. Then there is the question of her blood. She is part elf. In fact a few conversations hinted at "does she know what she really is?" And I'm assuming they will explore that in future seasons.

Now unlike GOTs that gave you a map in the opening credits, witcher forces you to find out on your own wtf they are talking about with kingdoms. I havent yet, but I dont really want to dive in right now because I'm certain I would enjoy it like GOTs

Here is a map of the Continent.

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Can a girl with "Talent" just show up and dominate the mages despite ignoring all of the lessons given, and acting like a petulant child who has to get what she wants or she'll pout about it? She then gets to lead them into battle... and does nothing until the end when she just destroys everyone.

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Hardly a 'girl', she had already spent 20 years at court when the incident with the assassin happened. She then goes independent, meets Geralt, has her dalliances with him, and then hunts the dragon. We know Geralt is older because he was already a well-known legend at Pavetta's engagement feast, where Calanthe hits on him.

Mages appear to have a level of Chaos in their blood, which ties into their life force. Nilfgaard has mages sacrifice their whole life force to create two fireballs of Chaos to hurl at Yennefer's forces. The more Chaos you harness inside yourself, the more powerful you are once you ascend. Remember that there are warnings during the battle to 'preserve your Chaos'. We are to understand that Yennefer has an almost unlimited amount, and her ability to unleash it makes her formidable. She also has an excellent mind for strategy, hence why she was put in the tower.

It sounds like you passively watched it, and didn't think about anything that was happening as you were watching. Now you're criticizing the show because of your intellectual laziness, you want it to be spoon fed to you.

lol @ all the spoon fed comments in this thread. Good storytelling isn't "spoon feeding" something to people. Its making it clear. The timeline in this show is EXTREMELY confusing because of the lack of aging and time jumps. Its not clear storytelling at all, it adds to the confusion for no good reason, and its just bad. I was able to discern the time jumps, but that doesn't make it a good idea.

Someone brought up Dunkirk and the different time lines, but that has a purpose. You get stories told on different time scales of days, hours and minutes interwoven together to make it more tense overall. It works really well. What the hell was the point of the time jumps here? Why do we start with Ciri then jump back in time with no obvious indicator? The answer, I think, is so that we can have Ciri in the show for every episode. But she doesnt DO anything so what is the point? Its dumb.

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lol @ all the spoon fed comments in this thread. Good storytelling isn't "spoon feeding" something to people. Its making it clear. The timeline in this show is EXTREMELY confusing because of the lack of aging and time jumps. Its not clear storytelling at all, it adds to the confusion for no good reason, and its just bad. I was able to discern the time jumps, but that doesn't make it a good idea.

Someone brought up Dunkirk and the different time lines, but that has a purpose. You get stories told on different time scales of days, hours and minutes interwoven together to make it more tense overall. It works really well. What the hell was the point of the time jumps here? Why do we start with Ciri then jump back in time with no obvious indicator? The answer, I think, is so that we can have Ciri in the show for every episode. But she doesnt DO anything so what is the point? Its dumb.

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You mean like the characters routinely referring to events that you just saw in the previous scene as being in the distant past?

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MBAR said:

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lol @ all the spoon fed comments in this thread. Good storytelling isn't "spoon feeding" something to people. Its making it clear. The timeline in this show is EXTREMELY confusing because of the lack of aging and time jumps. Its not clear storytelling at all, it adds to the confusion for no good reason, and its just bad. I was able to discern the time jumps, but that doesn't make it a good idea.

Someone brought up Dunkirk and the different time lines, but that has a purpose. You get stories told on different time scales of days, hours and minutes interwoven together to make it more tense overall. It works really well. What the hell was the point of the time jumps here? Why do we start with Ciri then jump back in time with no obvious indicator? The answer, I think, is so that we can have Ciri in the show for every episode. But she doesnt DO anything so what is the point? Its dumb.

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You mean like the characters routinely referring to events that you just saw in the previous scene as being in the distant past?

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Yeah? Like when we started with Ciri in the future and then see her grandmother a few episodes later and she mentions that the previous episode was in the future? Oh wait.

When we go from the past to the future in episodes with characters that have never even met so how the hell ould the say something was in the past?

Look, you can say that the time jumps didn't bother you and no one can say you're wrong. You can say it didn't impact the story for you or that it even made it better for you and no one can say you're wrong because those are your opinions on it. But you can't simply wave away the concerns of a ton of people who have watched the show as those people are just stupid like many people have in this thread. One of the biggest criticisms that is consistent for this show is that its needlessly confusing and I'm sorry if I find the idea that its because this show is somehow soooooooooooooo smart that it goes above the head of the average view anything but laughable.

I'll have to keep these complaints about the confusing timelines in my back pocket for when the next season of Westworld comes out.

The only thing they really could have done, imo, was to maybe make it more visually obvious some of the characters were older or younger. But there are a lot of people who dont really look different from about 25-45..and this is also a fictional world. Maybe 20 years as an adult doesnt really change your outward look.

Personally, I thought it was an interesting strategy, and for any bit of confusion I had was outweighed by when I started to suspect different timelines and ultimately when you know for sure. It's a rewarding experience, imo.

I wouldnt have had any issue with them telling it chronologically either. I also completely understand some people not enjoying it at all, but just because you didnt enjoy it doesnt suddenly make it bad.

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The only thing they really could have done, imo, was to maybe make it more visually obvious some of the characters were older or younger. But there are a lot of people who dont really look different from about 25-45..and this is also a fictional world. Maybe 20 years as an adult doesnt really change your outward look.

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I think the implication is that Chaos magic makes people like Yennefer and Geralt ageless.

The mutations that Witchers undergo during the Trial of the Grasses not only gives them superior reflexes, strength, heightened senses etc... it also stunts their ageing, Geralt is over 100 years old before he meets Ciri.

Mages use magic to keep themselves looking young and sexy (witches) or scholarly/distinguished (male mages)

I really recommend the books if you are interested in learning more of the lore, the show didn't do a very good job of addressing a lot of this background information

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redline248 said:

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I think they wanted the actress throughout the season, so we got her story from fall of cintra to finding Geralt.

I also think she had a dream or vision that clued her in about Yennifer.

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Didn't she just hear Geralt say Yennefer's name, hence the reason for her final line?

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she heard it during the dream she had that made her wake up and walk into the woods. I think that line is just to show us that all three are linked now by destiny.