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The Witcher. New Netflix series coming........

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I was thinking about this earlier but we dont see Yennifers desire for a child until after the assassination attempt.

Odd. Because the monologue to the dead child was "you're the luckiest one of all, not having to live in this world."
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FightinTexasAg15 said:


That is a pretty confusing timeline haha.
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Agreed. And it made it seem like she chose to give up the ability to have a child, as opposed to it being a part of the sorcerer transformation process. So for her to want to take that back is kind of dumb. Geralt had it done to him; Yenn signed up for it willingly.
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KidDoc said:

FightinTexasAg15 said:


That is a pretty confusing timeline haha.
No man you just need things spoonfed.
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https://www.witchernetflix.com/en-gb

Interactive timeline with map for the show.

Not sure if this has been posted in this thread yet, sorry.
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MBAR said:

KidDoc said:

FightinTexasAg15 said:


That is a pretty confusing timeline haha.
No man you just need things spoonfed.
I fully admit I need this spoonfed. Completely lost.
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It has been,but it's a good repost since folks still have questions about the timeline
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rhutton125 said:

Agreed. And it made it seem like she chose to give up the ability to have a child, as opposed to it being a part of the sorcerer transformation process. So for her to want to take that back is kind of dumb. Geralt had it done to him; Yenn signed up for it willingly.


She's told before the transformation process that she won't ever be able to procreate, she's okay with it. She thinks no one will ever want her.
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And I'm pretty sure during the process the guy removed something from her private parts area (uterus?) and puts it in a fire as part of the magical ritual.
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I was thinking about this earlier but we dont see Yennifers desire for a child until after the assassination attempt.

Odd. Because the monologue to the dead child was "you're the luckiest one of all, not having to live in this world."


Yeah, my one problem with Season 1 is how they handled Yennefer. That would have been a great moment to show her realizing what she gave up, and why she desires children now.

Instead, you have her sacrificing everything willingly in order to become beautiful and powerful, against the sorceresses orders. She then proceeds to f around for 30 years, still fail, then she wants a kid out of the blue and blames the sorceresses for making her transform, when she did it behind their backs in the first place.

I think a lot of exposition would have helped season 1 with the other complaints, but, like the books, I'm betting a lot of the background in the next few seasons about who the kingdoms are and what their motivations are will be revealed as integral to the plot of the story. So the audience was kept in the dark.

This whole season just laid the groundwork for the rest of the show's actual narrative (similar to the first two books), and I'm betting the next season solves a lot of the complaints listed here.
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Champ Bailey said:

The Debt said:

I was thinking about this earlier but we dont see Yennifers desire for a child until after the assassination attempt.

Odd. Because the monologue to the dead child was "you're the luckiest one of all, not having to live in this world."


Yeah, my one problem with Season 1 is how they handled Yennefer. That would have been a great moment to show her realizing what she gave up, and why she desires children now.

Instead, you have her sacrificing everything willingly in order to become beautiful and powerful, against the sorceresses orders. She then proceeds to f around for 30 years, still fail, then she wants a kid out of the blue and blames the sorceresses for making her transform, when she did it behind their backs in the first place.

I think a lot of exposition would have helped season 1 with the other complaints, but, like the books, I'm betting a lot of the background in the next few seasons about who the kingdoms are and what their motivations are will be revealed as integral to the plot of the story. So the audience was kept in the dark.

This whole season just laid the groundwork for the rest of the show's actual narrative (similar to the first two books), and I'm betting the next season solves a lot of the complaints listed here.
I think Yenn burying the baby is what made her realize that she wanted a baby.

edit: and that is when she figured out that she had been wasting her time catering to royals for the last 30 years.

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The effing around for 30 years and list for power was before the baby died? That is when everything changed and she pursued fixing her womb.
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Based on this season, I viewed her baby pursuit to be a rebellion against the brotherhood that she despised at the time. She sees it as something that was taken from her and wants the option back. She was clearly disillusioned with her role as an official court mage during the assassination episode. It seems like she's being juvenile, but there is at least a 100 year difference between her transformation and the Battle of Sodden Hill. I see it as her wanting to have her cake and eat it too(wants the beauty of a mage without the drawbacks of being sterile).

Related to Yen in the last episode was Geralt's mother was very clearly a sorceress, so it is implied that mages can clearly have children.

Also the lack of hand holding is something that makes this series great. Most viewers frustrated by the lack of exposition are that way because they are hooked. This season like the books, only set the stage for the main story as all the main players have been introduced now, even if the show only watchers don't know who is important yet.

Also I finished the season last night and I'm very thankful that I've read the books because it's fun catching the little details that only book readers will catch. My only two gripes are (still) that Triss isn't a Ginger, even though the actress playing her character did fine and that Calanthe should have looked at least late middle-aged. I look forward to many more seasons hopefully. I wonder how many seasons it would take to get through all the books or maybe even through the video games?
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I kind of think they could tear through the books, not tough the games, and be done in 2-3 more seasons.

I'm not through with the books, so I'll tread very lightly. I also don't want books 6 and 7 spoiled for me.

But Blood of Elves, not a whole lot happens, narratively. Time of Contempt, the Thanedd stuff is pivotal but also wouldn't take all that long to tell. But they can stretch it for a few episodes. Baptism of Fire I haven't finished yet but it's been a little slow going.

Seems to me like they could hit books 3 and 4 next season. Netflix likes to keep a series short too. Maybe 4 seasons total would be ideal?
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Y'all act like this is a smart show. It's not. It's dumb. Geralt literally delivers exposition to his horse in episode 1. It's the most ham-fisted thing I've seen in quite a while. The dialogue in general is so on-the-nose it's embarrassing.

Character motivations for their actions are continuously contradictory. The plot makes 0 sense on a macro and micro level (like, why would the queen ride out to meet her foe in open battle when she could hold her fortified position?) The acting across the board is just awful.

But what is truly hilarious is that some of you actually take the lack of basic plot mechanics and story telling fundamentals and use it as a means to insult the viewer's "need" to be "spoon-fed." It's a joke.
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M.C. Swag said:

Y'all act like this is a smart show. It's not. It's dumb. Geralt literally delivers exposition to his horse in episode 1. It's the most ham-fisted thing I've seen in quite a while. The dialogue in general is so on-the-nose it's embarrassing.

Character motivations for their actions are continuously contradictory. The plot makes 0 sense on a macro and micro level (like, why would the queen ride out to meet her foe in open battle when she could hold her fortified position?) The acting across the board is just awful.

But what is truly hilarious is that some of you actually take the lack of basic plot mechanics and story telling fundamentals and use it as a means to insult the viewer's "need" to be "spoon-fed." It's a joke.


Cool.

So we can expect you to not be a part of the thread anymore, right?
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M.C. Swag said:

Y'all act like this is a smart show. It's not. It's dumb. Geralt literally delivers exposition to his horse in episode 1. It's the most ham-fisted thing I've seen in quite a while. The dialogue in general is so on-the-nose it's embarrassing.

Character motivations for their actions are continuously contradictory. The plot makes 0 sense on a macro and micro level (like, why would the queen ride out to meet her foe in open battle when she could hold her fortified position?) The acting across the board is just awful.

But what is truly hilarious is that some of you actually take the lack of basic plot mechanics and story telling fundamentals and use it as a means to insult the viewer's "need" to be "spoon-fed." It's a joke.
No one thinks this show is smart. We think its enjoyable. It embraces fantasy stereotypes in a fun way, leans fully into them.The thing you seem to not grasp is, the majority of people have liked the decision they made in regards to the timeline. You seem to be incapable of getting over it.
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and because you were a jerk about it, I bet you are a big paint by numbers fan
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The decision to jump around on the timeline without saying so is needlessly confusing rather than artsy. If they need to tell it put of order that's fine, but failing to make sure people do walk away with an understanding of the things they've already seen is a poor choice. Yeah, you figure it out eventually, but it's a bad gimmick to get cheap suspense. Suspense should come from choices yet to be made, not from hiding things the characters already know.

I'm not quite getting the point across, but I think they wanted suspense, couldn't figure out how, so they settled for confusion and thought people wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
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M.C. Swag said:

Y'all act like this is a smart show. It's not. It's dumb. Geralt literally delivers exposition to his horse in episode 1. It's the most ham-fisted thing I've seen in quite a while. The dialogue in general is so on-the-nose it's embarrassing.

Character motivations for their actions are continuously contradictory. The plot makes 0 sense on a macro and micro level (like, why would the queen ride out to meet her foe in open battle when she could hold her fortified position?) The acting across the board is just awful.

But what is truly hilarious is that some of you actually take the lack of basic plot mechanics and story telling fundamentals and use it as a means to insult the viewer's "need" to be "spoon-fed." It's a joke.
Didn't you just do what you accuse others of doing? Oh well, who cares.

Average series at best. Last two episodes were the best, IMO.

They say f*** way too much. I'm not offended by it, but there are so many other curse words that could be utilized to make the point. Take a lesson from GRRM.
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Urban Ag said:

They say f*** way too much. I'm not offended by it, but there are so many other curse words that could be utilized to make the point. Take a lesson from GRRM.

Would that lesson be to not never actually finish what you started?
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Anyone else following The Witcher on FB? It has turned into a Henry Cavill adoration fest. Geez.
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seeing the current population of facebook it makes sense.

Regarding the time jumps being an issue, I think the show is just following the books' lead on the storytelling method. The first few books are short stories that occur at various points in time. Intentional or not it favors world building over a cohesive plot. The reason for this is that the larger storyline hasn't even started yet. Hate it or not I don't think this timeline fraccus is on Netflix.

On a lighter note here's another Metal cover from that first one on "White Wolf".


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I need to hear more use of the word "*****son" in the next season.
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Urban Ag said:

M.C. Swag said:

Y'all act like this is a smart show. It's not. It's dumb. Geralt literally delivers exposition to his horse in episode 1. It's the most ham-fisted thing I've seen in quite a while. The dialogue in general is so on-the-nose it's embarrassing.

Character motivations for their actions are continuously contradictory. The plot makes 0 sense on a macro and micro level (like, why would the queen ride out to meet her foe in open battle when she could hold her fortified position?) The acting across the board is just awful.

But what is truly hilarious is that some of you actually take the lack of basic plot mechanics and story telling fundamentals and use it as a means to insult the viewer's "need" to be "spoon-fed." It's a joke.
Didn't you just do what you accuse others of doing? Oh well, who cares.

Average series at best. Last two episodes were the best, IMO.

They say f*** way too much. I'm not offended by it, but there are so many other curse words that could be utilized to make the point. Take a lesson from GRRM.


**** is not even used in the games much if at all. They say plow instead.
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Full soundtrack dropped today on streaming services.

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There's going to be an anime movie coming out which tells Vesimir's story. Vesimir is Geralt's father figure, so this will be a prequel story. I'm not big into anime but this could be interesting , maybe we'll get to see the fall of Kaer Morhen?

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That's kind of spoilery
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Edited, but I actually had a brain fart and what I posted wasnt accurate, so no spoilers after all.
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Really good series starting after episode 2. Before that it was too disjointed.
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Working through the books. They are pretty damn funny. I hope the Pancake Treatment makes it into the show.
 
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