That actress plays Jocelyn in The Deuce now.
The Wire premiered 17 years ago yesterday
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Yeah ... Rawls. One of the most hardass cops of them all.
Best part of that scene was you weren't expecting it. Definitely a WTF moment just casually tossed in to the overall mix.
Wonder who's idea that was or if there was any backstory to it?
Best part of that scene was you weren't expecting it. Definitely a WTF moment just casually tossed in to the overall mix.
Wonder who's idea that was or if there was any backstory to it?
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
Yeah ... Rawls. One of the most hardass cops of them all.
Best part of that scene was you weren't expecting it. Definitely a WTF moment just casually tossed in to the overall mix.
Wonder who's idea that was or if there was any backstory to it?
I honestly think they were trying to keep the averages up, show that there are more than just lesbian cops. This was over a decade ago, before Hollywood went all SJW in all their new shows with 'representation'.
One of the greatest cold opens to a series as well. 'Got to...this America, man.'
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
Anybody remember the very brief scene inside a gay bar and when one of the dudes at the bar looks up it was one of the hard ass cops from HQ that was always busting balls.
That plot twist never came into play as I recall. It was a chekovs gun kinda deal. Something the writers threw in there to **** with the viewer.
Cant remember the characters name. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
How was it a "chekovs gun kinda deal" if they intentionally never revisited it? Do you mean it was a McGuffin?
It was simply a scene to show that the persona displayed to the public is often very different than the character's private life. Similar to the scene of Wee-Bey and his fish.
Not a chekovs gun or a mcguffin... Just good storytelling and a way to flesh out the characters more.
Not a chekovs gun or a mcguffin... Just good storytelling and a way to flesh out the characters more.
fantastic show. I'd never watched it until earlier this year
In S2 when the guard trashes his plastic fish....Proposition Joe said:
It was simply a scene to show that the persona displayed to the public is often very different than the character's private life. Similar to the scene of Wee-Bey and his fish.
Not a chekovs gun or a mcguffin... Just good storytelling and a way to flesh out the characters more.
17 years & Baltimore is worse now than it was then. Classic.
In my mind its similar to Pine Barrens with the interior decorator that killed 16 Czechoslovakians.
A character or object in the story thats left hanging out there and never gets resolved. In other words chekov's gun that never fires.
See also Pete's rifle in Mad Men.
A character or object in the story thats left hanging out there and never gets resolved. In other words chekov's gun that never fires.
See also Pete's rifle in Mad Men.
Naw, we still here homie.
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
In my mind its similar to Pine Barrens with the interior decorator that killed 16 Czechoslovakians.
A character or object in the story thats left hanging out there and never gets resolved. In other words chekov's gun that never fires.
See also Pete's rifle in Mad Men.
Chekhov's gun says show the gun early, then the gun must fire at the end. If the gun never fires, it wasnt a chekhov's gun. Maybe in pine barrens or other show "bottle" episodes is is an intentional decoy, but in the wire It was just like prop joe says above - extra character detail contributing to the richness of the show.
I disagree with your analysis there.
A chekovs gun that fires ... thats just called a gun.
A chekovs gun that fires ... thats just called a gun.
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
I disagree with your analysis there.
A chekovs gun that fires ... thats just called a gun.
I don't think you know what chekhov's gun means based on your earlier post about Rawls, but whatever.
Rawls being shown in a gay bar was one of several moments meant to humanize and show the "not always a hard ass cop" side and give the character more depth.
My favorite "Rawls has a human side" moment was during the season 1 episode when Kema is about to die in the hospital and Rawls pulls aside a distraught McNulty (who thinks this was his fault) and basically tells him "this wasnt your fault. you know i hate you and would gladly burn you if it was, so pull it together". That felt more "real" than a lot of TV pep talks.
This guy was the 20th or 30th most important character in the show, but that level of detail and character depth is part of why the show is so beloved and felt so authentic.
If I remember right, he started that conversation saying, "You are a gaping a-hole. We both know this..."expresswrittenconsent said:Stat Monitor Repairman said:
I disagree with your analysis there.
A chekovs gun that fires ... thats just called a gun.
I don't think you know what chekhov's gun means based on your earlier post about Rawls, but whatever.
Rawls being shown in a gay bar was one of several moments meant to humanize and show the "not always a hard ass cop" side and give the character more depth.
My favorite "Rawls has a human side" moment was during the season 1 episode when Kema is about to die in the hospital and Rawls pulls aside a distraught McNulty (who thinks this was his fault) and basically tells him "this wasnt your fault. you know i hate you and would gladly burn you if it was, so pull it together". That felt more "real" than a lot of TV pep talks.
This guy was the 20th or 30th most important character in the show, but that level of detail and character depth is part of why the show is so beloved and felt so authentic.
Yep. Poetry.
Nothing to do with Rawls, but my favorite dialog was when McNulty and Bunk were drunk in the bar talking about how Bunk was "gentle" the first time he "F-ed him".
"I wanted it to be special"
"I wanted it to be special"
Great show. This has got me wanting to go back and watch it again.
You an english / mathematics double major or something?expresswrittenconsent said:Stat Monitor Repairman said:
I disagree with your analysis there.
A chekovs gun that fires ... thats just called a gun.
I don't think you know what chekhov's gun means based on your earlier post about Rawls, but whatever.
Rawls being shown in a gay bar was one of several moments meant to humanize and show the "not always a hard ass cop" side and give the character more depth.
My favorite "Rawls has a human side" moment was during the season 1 episode when Kema is about to die in the hospital and Rawls pulls aside a distraught McNulty (who thinks this was his fault) and basically tells him "this wasnt your fault. you know i hate you and would gladly burn you if it was, so pull it together". That felt more "real" than a lot of TV pep talks.
This guy was the 20th or 30th most important character in the show, but that level of detail and character depth is part of why the show is so beloved and felt so authentic.
A checkov's gun that never fires is just a gun. In my view what you are describing is foreshadowing. The point of Checkov and his gun is that its out there but never fires ... just left hanging out there to add to the overall drama.
Pete's rifle, Pine Barrens russian and Rawls in the gay bar are cut form the same cloth.
I completely forgot about Pete's gun.
I'm thinking about going back and watching the season finales for mad men and the wire. I figure that will remind me of the different characters and plot lines.
I'm thinking about going back and watching the season finales for mad men and the wire. I figure that will remind me of the different characters and plot lines.
Speaking of Rawls, on rewatches I really enjoy how much they put into Landsman's character. First watch he was just a hilarious slob.
But pay closer attention and he's a sad sack of **** stuck in such a bad situation with a boss like Rawls. Always having to play the middle.
But pay closer attention and he's a sad sack of **** stuck in such a bad situation with a boss like Rawls. Always having to play the middle.
It is an interesting situation.Bunk Moreland said:
Speaking of Rawls, on rewatches I really enjoy how much they put into Landsman's character. First watch he was just a hilarious slob.
But pay closer attention and he's a sad sack of **** stuck in such a bad situation with a boss like Rawls. Always having to play the middle.
Landsman is grossly overweight and doughy, so he's not going to be promoted. He has middle management written all over him. But he also knows he works for a vindictive motherfcker in Rawls who he has to keep happy in order to keep his job. So he has to kiss up to Rawls while riding herd on his detectives to keep their numbers up so Rawls looks good and allows him to keep his job.
It is not an ideal existence.
Swarely said:
Just finished.
Wow.
So many thoughts. I loved the finale. Went into the last two episodes with a ball in my stomach, but they wrapped it up beautifully. Showing how nothing ever changes. Loved it all.
Minus Ziggy's pen is.
Well without Ziggy we wouldn't have Nick Sobakta. And without Nick we would not have Nicks GF. And without Nicks girlfriend we wouldn't have Nicks gf's you know!
And when Rawls got promoted upstairs, Landsman changed. He would have never shown Bubbles mercy if Rawls was still there, for example.
Ahh...great memories. I had to do a quick google. They were spectacular.
McNulty, doing the woman bent over the car, showing the badge when they hit him with the spotlight....
McNulty - drunk, slams his car into the bridge embankment, backs up, drives to the diner and bangs the waitress.
Bunk setting his suit in fire.
Bunk setting his suit in fire.
expresswrittenconsent said:
McNulty - drunk, slams his car into the bridge embankment, backs up, drives to the diner and bangs the waitress.
Bunk setting his suit in fire.
Gotta burn all the trace elements
Might be the funniest two scenes in the show.
Omar, the scariest motherfcker in the hood, is terrified his grandmother is going to find out he lied to her.
You come at the king, you best not miss
Slim Charles was so awesome!
expresswrittenconsent said:
McNulty - drunk, slams his car into the bridge embankment, backs up, drives to the diner and bangs the waitress.
Bunk setting his suit in fire.
Classic Bushy Top
Season 4 messed with my head more than any show I have ever seen. I had to take a few weeks off before I watched season 5.
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