I mean sure... but it's 12 channels I would never watch.

Philo is a better low cost option with 58 family friendly channels (no locals and not much sports) for $20/month.

www.philo.com

I'd like to see someone make a SPORTS specific streaming cable lineup.

I think a lot of would be cord cutters would just do their Netflix and a sports streaming option if it included:

major locals CBS, FOX, NBC, ABC
ESPN, ESPNU, ESPN2 maybe ESPNNews it is usually included and streaming access to ESPN3
NBCSN
CBSSN
FS1 and FS2 and Fox Soccer plus as an add-on
Your regional sports channel (FS SW or ATT SN)
MLB
NBA
NFL
NHL
Olympic?
Outdoor
Golf
beIN
Tennis
Sportsman
World Fishing
MAV TV
SEC
BTN
maybe PAC?? if they had a single channel or the package of 6 is cheap enough
maybe ACC when it launches
Spanish option - ESPN Deportes and GOL TV and FOX Deportes and Univision Deportes

Only problem is when the NBC sports spill over onto CNBC and MSNBC (EPL does that a lot) or some of the other alternate channels.

I think about $35 a month would be very appealing for that dedicated sports fan wanting streaming.

Zombie Jon Snow said:

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I mean sure... but it's 12 channels I would never watch.

Philo is a better low cost option with 58 family friendly channels (no locals and not much sports) for $20/month.

www.philo.com

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Yup, I have Philo(cancelling for Frndly tv), but mainly for the 3 Hallmarks for my wife, and maybe Up from time to time. Discovery and HGTV and a few of the others are on YTTV now, so it gave me some overlap. I'm saving $10 and get the Outdoor/Sportsman/World Fishing channels/Networks and keep the wife happy, so the value is different for me. Both are nice complimentary packages to Youtube TV and Hulu Live.

That's exactly what PSVue is trying to do. They're the only platform with NFL Redzone. And they have most of those other sports channels (but it's more than $35).

Yep, PSVue is close to that now with all the major ESPNs plus ESPNU, SECN, and BTN. Plus it has good channels like FX and FXX, plus some basics like HGTV and Hallmark for the ladies, and at least one baby channels with young child programming. It's all the channels my wife and I watch anyway for ~$50, and the interface is simple and responsive. Personally, I haven't missed a beat since switching from cable to PSVue. Only real difference is I don't have to scroll through 400 channels of abject crap and paid advertisement programming to get to the channels I actually want to watch.

Yeah but I'm suggesting getting rid of all that other crap (for the wives). I mean there is a market for that for sure but I think there are many just wanting sports and locals.

NONE of these:
No Hallmark channels
No Lifetime channels
No food or home or DIY channels
No education learning or history channels
No childrens channels
No comedy or cartoon channels
No music or video channels
No news channels

Take away those 40ish channels and you have to be able to cut down the monthly cost to be really attractive.

You can go get Philo if you want a lot of that. they would be a good compliment to each other for those that do want it all though. But for those that want one or the other the sports option does not exist except with all of that other stuff.

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I don't know of a cable package that's $50 per month. At least not Suddenlink.

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I pay Directv <$45 a month, fees and everything. No contract. There's not much point in cord cutting at that price.

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My dish package is $45 plus taxes/fees to come to ~$55 a month bottom line as well.It's like 50-60 channels. Also a customer for over a decade, so no contract. Now, I had 3 more tvs hooked up to DVR, so that was another $21. But I've since rid of those and just have 1 tv, which is currently inactive as I decide if I want to really cut it or not. But, as I've already mentioned, if I cut it, I'd just pay $50 to someone else, so I'm thinking I'll just keep it. The exorcise made me realize I don't need dish dvr on all tvs. The other tvs have netflix and amazon, which is plenty for secondary tvs.

If you're paying $150 a month for a dish cable package, you seriously have every single channel in the book.. including hbo, showtime, cinemax, etc plus probably 400 other channels including every sport channel and music channels.

So you can't even compare that $150 package to these chincy $40 packages. It's not even the same thing. Then you see the argument 'I don't need all those channel'.. well don't get the $150/mo package then. Get the $50/mo one.

When i left Dish I had a pretty standard package + HBO, 1 box with DVR, and 1 box without DVR, and i was paying $155/mo... I must have been doing something wrong.

As with most cable and sat providers, if you do not threaten to leave after every contract term expires unless you get the new customer rate for another extended contract, they will keep raising the prices on you.

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When i left Dish I had a pretty standard package + HBO, 1 box with DVR, and 1 box without DVR, and i was paying $155/mo... I must have been doing something wrong.

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Must have been. You were probably paying for a package that had 350 channels, and you watched 25 of them. Is that dish's fault? Their most expensive one now is $90. Add on 2 dvrs and taxes and you'd be at maybe $130.
https://www.dish.com/programming/packages/

I had this $38 package for 6-7 years. 50 channels. it's not some 'introductory price.. that is the price, it hasn't changed once since I switched to it.
https://www.mydish.com/flex-pack
I paid $12 for local channel pack for a while, but got smart and bought an antenna for $50 to drop that pack. I will likely reactivate this instead of paying $50 to someone else. I like dish's capabilities.

As much as it's talked about on here, I've never had to repeatedly call them to keep the price down. It's never gone up. I've changed packages over the years, always making sure I have the lowest one available, but since they introduced the flex pack I haven't had to switch, since it's been that price for years. I have called 2-3 times in 12-13 years to get new equipment however. They don't just offer up that stuff.

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When i left Dish I had a pretty standard package + HBO, 1 box with DVR, and 1 box without DVR, and i was paying $155/mo... I must have been doing something wrong.

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Must have been. You were probably paying for a package that had 350 channels, and you watched 25 of them. Is that dish's fault? Their most expensive one now is $90. Add on 2 dvrs and taxes and you'd be at maybe $130.
https://www.dish.com/programming/packages/

I had this $38 package for 6-7 years. 50 channels. it's not some 'introductory price.. that is the price, it hasn't changed once since I switched to it.
https://www.mydish.com/flex-pack
I paid $12 for local channel pack for a while, but got smart and bought an antenna for $50 to drop that pack. I will likely reactivate this instead of paying $50 to someone else. I like dish's capabilities.

As much as it's talked about on here, I've never had to repeatedly call them to keep the price down. It's never gone up. I've changed packages over the years, always making sure I have the lowest one available, but since they introduced the flex pack I haven't had to switch, since it's been that price for years. I have called 2-3 times in 12-13 years to get new equipment however. They don't just offer up that stuff.

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Let's compare apples to apples. You keep talking about this base level package - and without locals apparently - in comparison to those $45-50ish packages from streaming services.

But the vast majority of people on here are interested in SPORTS and Aggie games in particular so anything you are describing theta does not have ALL of the ESPN channels and SEC Network is a non starter for 99% of us. that package doesn't have a single sports channel - so it's great if you want to watch stupid crap on garbage channels (imho). Basically those are the channels my wife wants (no offense).

I want these at a minimum:
ALL locals - CBS, Fox, NBC, ABC - aggie/SEC games on CBS and other college games on ABC, NBC, Fox and NFL of course
ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU - many aggie games
SEC Network - many aggie and other SEC games
FS1 and FS2 - other college games and other sports
NBCSN - I watch tons of EPL on there
FS SW - Dallas Mavs and Stars and Rangers games (or whatever regional sports network)

Personally I don't care about a single channel on that package you have. My other viewing is all Netflix or Hulu or HBO which I get free via AT&T Wireless..

So anyway you are comparing your bare bones low end dish channel mix to something that has ALL of the sports channels most of us are talking about. In addition to those above I also have:

CBS SN
BTN
Golf
Olympic

that i watch infrequently.


And since I already had Netflix and Hulu with cable (for $140 ish per month to get all of those channels and on multiple TVs) the Hulu+Live which gets me all of those channels is only $38 MORE than I was paying for just Hulu and I dropped the $140ish per month cable BS.

And with that I also get most of the channels you listed so the wife is happy.

Also I have no contract, month to month and it doesn't cost me any more on multiple TVs and devices.


PS - I only had a mid level U200 package on Uverse - which was required for SECN. At $89 per month plus $10HD fee, and then $10 per box x 3 and about $10 in taxes and fees it was $140ish.

PS - minimum to get close to what I have on Hulu+Live you would have to add t that $38 package:

Locals package $12
Action package for ESPN, ESPN2 and FS1 - $12
Regional action for FS2, FS SW, SEC, BTN - $12

So $74 per month.

and then still don't have NBCSN, ESPNU, or CBSSN. Those are not available except on the bigger packages.

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boy09 said:

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When i left Dish I had a pretty standard package + HBO, 1 box with DVR, and 1 box without DVR, and i was paying $155/mo... I must have been doing something wrong.

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Must have been. You were probably paying for a package that had 350 channels, and you watched 25 of them. Is that dish's fault? Their most expensive one now is $90. Add on 2 dvrs and taxes and you'd be at maybe $130.
https://www.dish.com/programming/packages/

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Yeah, but these prices also require a 2 year commitment. Once your 2 years is over, they're either going to hike the price up on you or lock you in for another 2 years..

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PS - minimum to get close to what I have on Hulu+Live you would have to add t that $38 package:

Locals package $12
Action package for ESPN, ESPN2 and FS1 - $12
Regional action for FS2, FS SW, SEC, BTN - $12

So $74 per month.

and then still don't have NBCSN, ESPNU, or CBSSN. Those are not available except on the bigger packages.

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If anyone is paying for locals these days, you are doing it wrong. I thought I learned this lesson way late in the ballgame and even I stopped earlier this year.

I paid $43 for this (caught it on a sale)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HSMK59E/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

and have ~40 local channels (including all networks), free for life. I paired it with an over the air dvr (amazon fire recast), which then allows me to have those local channels on all my tvs, and they are all hooked up to the dvr.

But yeh you're right, $38 plus $24 = $62, so it's a bit more than the $50 from other options.

Sorry, didn't realize this was a thread about only sports watcher options for cutting the cord. If that is the case, then yeh $62 may not get you every sport channel out there.


Look, end of the day, my comment was in response to this:

Psychag said:

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I don't know of a cable package that's $50 per month. At least not Suddenlink.

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I am not on here telling you what cable package you need that fits your needs. Don't convolute the discussion. I'm simply proving there is a cable package less than $50.


FYI, I am not the tv watcher in the house. I prefer to spend my time on other hobbies (homebrewing, guitar/drums). If it weren't for kids and wife, I wouldn't have any sort of tv, or netflix for that matter.
So no offense taken.

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boy09 said:

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When i left Dish I had a pretty standard package + HBO, 1 box with DVR, and 1 box without DVR, and i was paying $155/mo... I must have been doing something wrong.

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Must have been. You were probably paying for a package that had 350 channels, and you watched 25 of them. Is that dish's fault? Their most expensive one now is $90. Add on 2 dvrs and taxes and you'd be at maybe $130.
https://www.dish.com/programming/packages/

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Once your 2 years is over, they're either going to hike the price up on you or lock you in for another 2 years..

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Not in my experience. I haven't been under contract in over 10 years, and have never had my price go up. I've been paying ~$145 for cable and internet (internet is $75 of that) for as long as I've been in my new house, 2012.

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

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PS - minimum to get close to what I have on Hulu+Live you would have to add t that $38 package:

Locals package $12
Action package for ESPN, ESPN2 and FS1 - $12
Regional action for FS2, FS SW, SEC, BTN - $12

So $74 per month.

and then still don't have NBCSN, ESPNU, or CBSSN. Those are not available except on the bigger packages.

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If anyone is paying for locals these days, you are doing it wrong. I thought I learned this lesson way late in the ballgame and even I stopped earlier this year.

I paid $43 for this (caught it on a sale)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HSMK59E/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

and have ~40 local channels (including all networks), free for life. I paired it with an over the air dvr (amazon fire recast), which then allows me to have those local channels on all my tvs, and they are all hooked up to the dvr.

But yeh you're right, $38 plus $24 = $62, so it's a bit more than the $50 from other options.

Sorry, didn't realize this was a thread about only sports watcher options for cutting the cord. If that is the case, then yeh $62 may not get you every sport channel out there.


Look, end of the day, my comment was in response to this:

Psychag said:

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I don't know of a cable package that's $50 per month. At least not Suddenlink.

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I am not on here telling you what cable package you need that fits your needs. Don't convolute the discussion. I'm simply proving there is a cable package less than $50.


FYI, I am not the tv watcher in the house. I prefer to spend my time on other hobbies (homebrewing, guitar/drums). If it weren't for kids and wife, I wouldn't have any sort of tv, or netflix for that matter.
So no offense taken.

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It's cool. Just kind of a given I think - looking back through the thread most often people bring up locals and then sports channels - for aggie games. Lots of comments on SEC or ESPN or regional sports channels. and it's on texags so... i would assume that anyway.


And I've done the OTA for locals in HD also. Sure it's an option. But most of these streaming packages now include those too and it's not even optional. PSVue, Hulu+Live and YT all have them for sure. So with it included and covering all the sports needs there really isn't a need to search out some other option - and personally when I had them OTA I disliked changing sources to change channels (from ESPN to ABC for example you would have to change from the OTA antenna input to whatever cable or streaming source you have for ESPN). I like to flip between games (unless the aggies are on of course).


I also despise satellite companies - been with both at different times. And I've rarely had a cable provider I didn't hate for one reason or another.

I've got really minimal complaints with all streaming. The Hulu+Live guide could be improved for sure (I hear they are working on it). Aside from that nothing but positives on use, interface, content, channels, cost, flexibility, use while travelling and sharing with my college kids saves me from paying for them to have some service also (bonus).

It's the ideal time to cut the cord imho - for live and local and sports content it's now all available (unless you are in Houston and want ATT Sportsnet).

We cut the cord about 6 years ago starting with OTA, Hulu, Netflix, and Amazon prime. We added PlayStation Vue when it came out but have since switched to YouTube TV. I like the YouTube TV interface, quality, DVR, and the selection is equivalent. I tried PS Vue trial again a few months ago but still don't like the interface.

We have an old refurb Dell computer hooked up to our TV through HDMI and receiver that we use for streaming, file server, music, etc. So everything is done in a browser with wireless keyboard. I hate fumbling with remote interfaces into specific hardware and apps. This also allows me to stream multiple games at a time and alt-Tab between them or have 4 of them tiled on the screen at once.

We also use chromecasts to stream to other TV's when having people over or watching on TV outside.

Just completed my switch.

My last month of ATT Uverse+Internet was $202 and made up of the following:

• TV: $166 (U300+HBO)
• Internet: $40 (Internet 100)

I called to try to cancel my cable and keep the internet. They estimated that my current internet plan would rise to $90/month with the unlimited data cap ($65/month if I opted out of the unlimited data).

Spectrum is offering $45/month on a month-to-month basis (no contract) for 200 mb/s. So i switched to that and signed up for PS Vue's Ultra package (All their channels) + the Sports Package for a total of $95/month. After football season, I'll drop the sports package and my bill will decrease by $10/month or i can switch to another streaming service (i'll shop around for the best deal).

All in, I'm now spending $135/month as opposed to $202/month. I still have all my sports channels I need to watch A&M, Mavs, and Cowboys (including NFL Network and NFL Redzone, which I'm pretty sure are only available on PS Vue).

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62strat said:

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When i left Dish I had a pretty standard package + HBO, 1 box with DVR, and 1 box without DVR, and i was paying $155/mo... I must have been doing something wrong.

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Must have been. You were probably paying for a package that had 350 channels, and you watched 25 of them. Is that dish's fault? Their most expensive one now is $90. Add on 2 dvrs and taxes and you'd be at maybe $130.
https://www.dish.com/programming/packages/

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Once your 2 years is over, they're either going to hike the price up on you or lock you in for another 2 years..

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Not in my experience. I haven't been under contract in over 10 years, and have never had my price go up. I've been paying ~$145 for cable and internet (internet is $75 of that) for as long as I've been in my new house, 2012.

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Well this was my experience. I don't know what else to say...

M.C. Swag said:

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Just completed my switch.

My last month of ATT Uverse+Internet was $202 and made up of the following:

• TV: $166 (U300+HBO)
• Internet: $40 (Internet 100)

I called to try to cancel my cable and keep the internet. They estimated that my current internet plan would rise to $90/month with the unlimited data cap ($65/month if I opted out of the unlimited data).

Spectrum is offering $45/month on a month-to-month basis (no contract) for 200 mb/s. So i switched to that and signed up for PS Vue's Ultra package (All their channels) + the Sports Package for a total of $95/month. After football season, I'll drop the sports package and my bill will decrease by $10/month or i can switch to another streaming service (i'll shop around for the best deal).

All in, I'm now spending $135/month as opposed to $202/month. I still have all my sports channels I need to watch A&M, Mavs, and Cowboys (including NFL Network and NFL Redzone, which I'm pretty sure are only available on PS Vue).

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Sling (Orange) and Fubo both have NFL Network included in base package and both offer NFL Redzone as an add-on at some cost.


Breakdown of "top 100 channels" here for the streaming providers - scroll down to the large table. This helps look at your options when deciding on a provider based on channels you prioritize. Fubo is on there but the window isn't big enough - you gotta scroll right within the window FYI. Also has links to see Regional Sports channels and other things like reviews of various services, etc.

https://www.cnet.com/news/youtube-tv-vs-sling-tv-vs-directv-now-vs-hulu-and-more-live-tv-channels-compared/

For those really wanting to see a sports networks breakdown I created this - well I took the google doc on the CNET page exported it and eliminated all non sports channels.

There are other sports channels on some of them - this is only from their top 100 channels. So Olympic, Fishing, Outdoor, MAV TV, etc. are not listed.

I added regional sports channels for Dallas/Houston and I kept TNT, TBS and TruTV on their simply because of NCAA tourney which CBS and Turner channels co own the rights to and use all of those channels for early rounds.



By far the two with the most sports channels are Hulu+Live (20) and Youtube TV (23) with the difference being MLB, NBA and Tennis. Otherwise they are the same on sports availability.

Yea but you're counting Motor Trend and Tennis Channel lol. Sling and Vue are the only ones with total NFL and NBA coverage (which should be noted).

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Yea but you're counting Motor Trend and Tennis Channel lol. Sling and Vue are the only ones with total NFL and NBA coverage (which should be noted).

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Sling doesn't have SEC so non starter for me.

And you would have to tell me how much PS viue charges for all of those add on $ sport channels. Going a lot higher than $50. And personally since I had Hulu already the Live channels was only $38 more and got me all that I wanted. I don't need NFL network. It's usually simulcast or a game I don't care about. And I have no interest in NBA other than Mavs which I get.

But each to his own. That's why I published the table so people can figure out their options and choose best for them.

Which is why I picked Vue. It's the best sports streaming offering if you like A&M, NFL, and Dallas sports (I think it doesn't offer Houston's "Root" channel or whatever).

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When i left Dish I had a pretty standard package + HBO, 1 box with DVR, and 1 box without DVR, and i was paying $155/mo... I must have been doing something wrong.

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Must have been. You were probably paying for a package that had 350 channels, and you watched 25 of them. Is that dish's fault?

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I had Uverse, but yes it was their fault. I only watch about 12 channels, but the only way to get those particular 12, was to buy a large package of 400 or so channels. Cable providers spread the high-demand channels out among their packages on purpose to try to push people towards the big expensive packages.

The main value of PSVue over cable for me, is they offer a small channel package that actually includes everything I want. If cable provider want to take a big chunk out of the streaming market, they need to start offering a wider selection of smaller more specialized channel packages, and stop stuffing them full of hundreds of infomercial channels nobody wants.

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Yea but you're counting Motor Trend and Tennis Channel lol. Sling and Vue are the only ones with total NFL and NBA coverage (which should be noted).

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Sling doesn't have SEC so non starter for me.

And you would have to tell me how much PS viue charges for all of those add on $ sport channels. Going a lot higher than $50. And personally since I had Hulu already the Live channels was only $38 more and got me all that I wanted. I don't need NFL network. It's usually simulcast or a game I don't care about. And I have no interest in NBA other than Mavs which I get.

But each to his own. That's why I published the table so people can figure out their options and choose best for them.

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Sling Orange if you also get the Sports+ add on will get you SEC and SEC+. That said I get SEC on youtube tv.

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When i left Dish I had a pretty standard package + HBO, 1 box with DVR, and 1 box without DVR, and i was paying $155/mo... I must have been doing something wrong.

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Must have been. You were probably paying for a package that had 350 channels, and you watched 25 of them. Is that dish's fault?

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I had Uverse, but yes it was their fault. I only watch about 12 channels, but the only way to get those particular 12, was to buy a large package of 400 or so channels. Cable providers spread the high-demand channels out among their packages on purpose to try to push people towards the big expensive packages.

The main value of PSVue over cable for me, is they offer a small channel package that actually includes everything I want. If cable provider want to take a big chunk out of the streaming market, they need to start offering a wider selection of smaller more specialized channel packages, and stop stuffing them full of hundreds of infomercial channels nobody wants.

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Hence my mention of the dish flex packs. I posted a link to a dish pack for $37 that has 50 of the 'most popular' channels. But then it was ridiculed.. 'well I need this channel and that channel.' All services clearly have different ideas of what the most popular channels are in order to condense the package to an attractive price point. Some are more focused on sports channels. Some are not, because believe it or not, not everyone wants 25 of their 50 channels to be sports.

So if a service's condensed package does not cover your needs, you find another service that hopefully does. If you can't find one, you are back to 200 channels for $100. There is no in between for most people.. Most people still want a specific 25 or so channels, and no service is going to cater to you alone. But to say a company like dish isn't offering that same type of flexibility is false. I would think directTV and Uverse both have similar condensed packages.

If cable went 100% a la carte, you'd be paying a lot more for the 25 channel you just gotta have than you were when you had 200 channels for $100. As mentioned above, ESPN could go rogue and be standalone at $30/mo if they wanted.

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Just completed my switch.

My last month of ATT Uverse+Internet was $202 and made up of the following:

• TV: $166 (U300+HBO)
• Internet: $40 (Internet 100)

I called to try to cancel my cable and keep the internet. They estimated that my current internet plan would rise to $90/month with the unlimited data cap ($65/month if I opted out of the unlimited data).

Spectrum is offering $45/month on a month-to-month basis (no contract) for 200 mb/s. So i switched to that and signed up for PS Vue's Ultra package (All their channels) + the Sports Package for a total of $95/month. After football season, I'll drop the sports package and my bill will decrease by $10/month or i can switch to another streaming service (i'll shop around for the best deal).

All in, I'm now spending $135/month as opposed to $202/month. I still have all my sports channels I need to watch A&M, Mavs, and Cowboys (including NFL Network and NFL Redzone, which I'm pretty sure are only available on PS Vue).

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I have that same exact u-verse package +HBO/Cinemax. Comes out to $246 all in. I like the service and have no issues other than the pricing games they play. I have called periodically and gotten some sort of promotion added, but am tired of that. I've also tried to negotiate over chat and they quoted me new prices but was all a lie as they never updated my bill.

I'm thinking of moving to YouTube tv, and keeping internet, but I guess that's dumb as AT&T will jack up the internet price and also cap the data.

The one thing I might miss is watching data free tv on the u-verse app that doesn't count against my family shared data on my AT&T cell phone plan.

Anyone have AT&T throw an offer that's remotely comparable to these internet+streaming prices? Just seems like they don't have much of a strategy to retain customers if I can pretty easily switch and save nearly $100 month, and would be better not even keep their internet to do a streaming tv service. Tried directv now for a bit and it was pretty limited and isn't an app available on many devices.

check out Toast.net its an AT&T reseller and they only sell internet, no data caps. You can check on their site to see if they service your house(probably do if you have Uverse).

I've had them a couple of years and have been very happy. I had a stacked Uverse plan I think it was450 because each time i renewed, I had to go up a level to get discounts.

If you don't care about the NFL network, Youtube TV is a great package at a great price, and you'll get all the A&M football games. They will give you a short trial period for free, as will all the other steaming services.


https://www2.toast.net/

If you get it, an ATT tech will come and swap out the Modem. However, you need to return the old one to ATT via their process, as the tech will be there representing Toast.net.

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YouTube TV is the way to go. I've had it since it was basically beta. It's only cost $35 back then, but they've added a crap ton of channels since. It's now $50 but for that, you can share with 5 family members, watch TV pretty much anywhere, have unlimited dvr.

Most Samsung TVs have the app built in, app for my phone, can watch on PC, use Xbox, roku, etc. No issues at all. I catch up on my shows when I travel on my tablet.

I watched all televised aggie games as well.

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What concurrent stream issues do you find, if any?

We have a fiber service coming in with up to 1GPS speed.

Toast.net prices were pretty expensive.