Seeing it tomorrow. I can't wait!!!!
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Tip: The camera stays continually on main cast--- fortunately it doesn't move too fast, so make sure to always look in the background as they walk by things. You will see all kinds of authentic touches down to types of stoves and how are preparing meals, to forms of scopes for observation of the enemy lines. But all just in the background--like in real life, the view doesn't get to linger on them.MBAR said:
Seeing it tomorrow. I can't wait!!!!
At first I was like "theres no way the German lines were that orderly, the sandbags were stacked precisely", then I remembered stereotypes exist for a reason.
Just got out. I really enjoyed it. Not the bet story I've seen this year, but definitely the best cinematography. Great film.
When are we doing spoilers? I'll come back then lol.
When are we doing spoilers? I'll come back then lol.
Movie was beautiful, but wasn't the best movie of the year.
Although my favorite movie of the year was Into The Spiderverse, so maybe I'm not the best judge.
Although my favorite movie of the year was Into The Spiderverse, so maybe I'm not the best judge.
Between Spilner's top ten of the decade and Living Legend's Favorite Movies of 2019 thread, it felt like my annual thread might be overkill this year, so I wasn't planning on doing one. That said, I forgot that I did a top ten combination thread last year of movies and TV, so more people could participate, so I can do the same again for 2019. Give me a few minutes and I'll throw one up.
As for your reaction to 1917, I have to say, it hasn't stuck with me as much as I thought it would over the past week or so, especially on an emotional level, so I get exactly where you're coming from.
As for your reaction to 1917, I have to say, it hasn't stuck with me as much as I thought it would over the past week or so, especially on an emotional level, so I get exactly where you're coming from.
Its a great film and its beautiful but for me the story wasn't the best. Thats fine but it shouldn't win an the oscar, IMO.TCTTS said:
Between Spilner's top ten of the decade and Living Legend's Favorite Movies of 2019 thread, it felt like my annual thread might be overkill this year, so I wasn't planning on doing one. That said, I forgot that I did a top ten combination thread last year of movies and TV, so more people could participate, so I can do the same again for 2019. Give me a few minutes and I'll throw one up.
As for your reaction to 1917, I have to say, it hasn't stuck with me as much as I thought it would over the past week or so, especially on an emotional level, so I get exactly where you're coming from.
Agreed. As Rick said, at this point, it really does feel like OUATIH has weathered the storm and is going to pull off the win.
Is this worth checking out in IMAX?
Brian Earl Spilner said:
Is this worth checking out in IMAX?
All in all a really cool movie, but I think because I anticipated it so much I kind of went in expecting too much and it fell a little flat for me. The technical aspects and cinematography are on point and really stunning, worth seeing it on the big screen for that alone. But, the story and characters were a little underwhelming, I felt. From minute 5 you know roughly what you're going to see play out and then it plays out.
My other issues with it was that the likelihood of a German pilot acting in that way seems very remote. Pilots on both alliances had a code of chivalry and I cannot imagine a pilot doing that, especially after being dragged from his plane and essentially saved. A little easier to make Germans mean and nasty for WWII flicks but WWI Germans were mostly decent people.
Anyway, still go see it. I'd probably give it a 7/10. Good but not great.
My other issues with it was that the likelihood of a German pilot acting in that way seems very remote. Pilots on both alliances had a code of chivalry and I cannot imagine a pilot doing that, especially after being dragged from his plane and essentially saved. A little easier to make Germans mean and nasty for WWII flicks but WWI Germans were mostly decent people.
Anyway, still go see it. I'd probably give it a 7/10. Good but not great.
I agree with Dalton and Teacher Ag. It is a hard movie to review because it is a very different presentation that I enjoyed. However the story line is very simplistic. If you have seen the trailer you have basically seen the movie except for one thing. Its like reading a great short story and trying to compare to a great novel.
Well worth seeing.
Well worth seeing.
going to see it soon in IMAX this time for the 2nd viewing and I'm planning to focus more on background visualstitan said:Tip: The camera stays continually on main cast--- fortunately it doesn't move too fast, so make sure to always look in the background as they walk by things. You will see all kinds of authentic touches down to types of stoves and how are preparing meals, to forms of scopes for observation of the enemy lines. But all just in the background--like in real life, the view doesn't get to linger on them.MBAR said:
Seeing it tomorrow. I can't wait!!!!
I love the simplicity of the story and how with such little effort I am fully engaged with it.
A lesser movie would have had distracting flashbacks but you get everything you need in order to care about these main characters in like 1 minute of dialog
why don't we wait until it's safer? No...I'm going to find my brother right now
Why did you trade away your medal? Its meaningless and when I was home I was miserable because all I thought about was the pain of having to return to war
Also it's lacking the camaraderie of a saving private Ryan/band of brothers but you get a couple impactful scenes that show that side of the war and gives you those feels.
A lesser movie would have had distracting flashbacks but you get everything you need in order to care about these main characters in like 1 minute of dialog
why don't we wait until it's safer? No...I'm going to find my brother right now
Why did you trade away your medal? Its meaningless and when I was home I was miserable because all I thought about was the pain of having to return to war
Also it's lacking the camaraderie of a saving private Ryan/band of brothers but you get a couple impactful scenes that show that side of the war and gives you those feels.
A simple story line doesnt bother me. We know the plot is get the news to the front line ASAP or thousands of men die including your brother.
Doesnt need to be inception or momento for this to be a great movie. The fact its a ww1 movie is even better. Very little explored theatre in recent films. Stoked to see it tonight.
Doesnt need to be inception or momento for this to be a great movie. The fact its a ww1 movie is even better. Very little explored theatre in recent films. Stoked to see it tonight.
That's all I needed to hear.
My local one has IMAX so that's what I'll do. Going to the matinee tomorrow.
My local one has IMAX so that's what I'll do. Going to the matinee tomorrow.
Teach_Ag, I absolutely agree with that objection. I had the same thought you did even as it happened. "Aww, c'mon. If I could pick someone least likely to betray a man in that way, its a WW I aviator. Aviators in general for the longest time. Unfortunately, in WW II, especially with a Japanese or Waffen SS, that would have been a likely risk. Maybe not Luftwaffe or Wehrmacht even. But I realized they needed a quick way to kill their character that had some pathos.Teacher_Ag said:
All in all a really cool movie, but I think because I anticipated it so much I kind of went in expecting too much and it fell a little flat for me. The technical aspects and cinematography are on point and really stunning, worth seeing it on the big screen for that alone. But, the story and characters were a little underwhelming, I felt. From minute 5 you know roughly what you're going to see play out and then it plays out.
My other issues with it was that the likelihood of a German pilot acting in that way seems very remote. Pilots on both alliances had a code of chivalry and I cannot imagine a pilot doing that, especially after being dragged from his plane and essentially saved. A little easier to make Germans mean and nasty for WWII flicks but WWI Germans were mostly decent people.
Anyway, still go see it. I'd probably give it a 7/10. Good but not great.
It did have the power of being rather unexpected, putting you on edge.Felt the same in the earlier cave-in scene --it lasted just long enough to work and think Scofield was gone.
If you are eager to see a WW I movie in WW II movie style clarity and setting, you won't be disappointed. As you allude to, any weaknesses are cancelled by the rarity of the treatment of WW I at this level. Hope there will be more.coastsrs said:
A simple story line doesnt bother me. We know the plot is get the news to the front line ASAP or thousands of men die including your brother.
Doesnt need to be inception or momento for this to be a great movie. The fact its a ww1 movie is even better. Very little explored theatre in recent films. Stoked to see it tonight.
I saw this today and and it is an amazing, brilliant experience.
I caught the nerd in me trying to find where they cheated and hid cuts, but had to remind myself to just relax and enjoy.
I teared up three times, twice at expected moments at the end. But I was surprised at my reaction when the first line climbed out of the trenches at the end The heroism/senselessness/stupidity/bravery/etc. all combined in that charge made me really emotional.
I think I'd have one note to improve it: ditch the French subtitles. There was enough context to figure it out and it would have helped the immersion.
It made me regret not talking to my dad/grandfathers more about their experiences in Korea, WW2, and life in general. Go call your dad, because I can't now and this movie, especially the tag at the end, made me want to.
I caught the nerd in me trying to find where they cheated and hid cuts, but had to remind myself to just relax and enjoy.
I teared up three times, twice at expected moments at the end. But I was surprised at my reaction when the first line climbed out of the trenches at the end The heroism/senselessness/stupidity/bravery/etc. all combined in that charge made me really emotional.
I think I'd have one note to improve it: ditch the French subtitles. There was enough context to figure it out and it would have helped the immersion.
It made me regret not talking to my dad/grandfathers more about their experiences in Korea, WW2, and life in general. Go call your dad, because I can't now and this movie, especially the tag at the end, made me want to.
I enjoyed the movie. Gold medal cinematography no doubt, but I guess I had built it up too much ahead of time and the story didn't strike me as original. With that said, the whole time I kept thinking: (1) this is haunting; (2) I'm so lucky to have been born when and where I was.
It's absolutely worth seeing on the big screen for the cinematography alone. A truly beautiful movie.
That said (without getting into spoilers), I agree that the story wasn't all that I'd hoped for. It started out great, then the middle was pretty average, and then the ending improved to good.
That said (without getting into spoilers), I agree that the story wasn't all that I'd hoped for. It started out great, then the middle was pretty average, and then the ending improved to good.
Cinematography was all it was cracked up to be, truly remarkable. I am just trying to imagine the logistics and planning it took to set up that first hour of what looked to be one take. The actors did an amazing job. The night time shots were breathtaking also.
But I had always hoped for a saving private Ryan prequel, finally got one. Plot left a lot to be desired.
If they had planes why didn't they just drop a leaflet on our troops or parachute something down to tell them? I assume the comm lines were fine in the rear, They could have been there in a half hour. Or why the officer who drove him near the city didn't give him more help? Dude just basically said yeah, you are going to save 1600 guys, so good luck chief, hope you pull it off. Or why if there were Germans in the city and he could just stroll in the the rear of the Devons les than a half mile away it appeared, with no one noticing - did they not have a patrol? He also got shot at at close range about 20 times and basically only got a flesh wound, so that's pretty sweet too.
But I had always hoped for a saving private Ryan prequel, finally got one. Plot left a lot to be desired.
If they had planes why didn't they just drop a leaflet on our troops or parachute something down to tell them? I assume the comm lines were fine in the rear, They could have been there in a half hour. Or why the officer who drove him near the city didn't give him more help? Dude just basically said yeah, you are going to save 1600 guys, so good luck chief, hope you pull it off. Or why if there were Germans in the city and he could just stroll in the the rear of the Devons les than a half mile away it appeared, with no one noticing - did they not have a patrol? He also got shot at at close range about 20 times and basically only got a flesh wound, so that's pretty sweet too.
A lot of those shots were fired from the hip while running in the dark
Another annoyance, kind of minor but still enough to mess up a cool looking scene for me. The iconic one toward the end when he is running through the charge that is taking place artillery explosions don't just kick some dirt up in the air. They tear to pieces anyone within close proximity and spray small to medium shrapnel chards in all directions which gash and tear uniforms and flesh. Multiple rounds landed close enough to wound if not kill him. I wish they had either left the "artillery" out or only had it happening in the distance where it couldn't have harmed him. Having it land 10 yards away from him and have no effect is kind of lame.
TCTTS said:
Re: the single-take approach, there's only one, blatant edit/time jump of a few hours. Outside of that, I counted three sly edits, where it was relatively obvious that sets/camera tricks were used to seamlessly bind sequences to appear as a continuous take
Ha - I observed the same.Blatant time jump when he passed out in the stairwell? And the sly edits were things like when they'd step thru a hole in a brick wall and the camera would go behind the brick for a second, or head bobbing under the water.
Amazing, though.
TCTTS said:
There's one sequence, in particular - at night, with flares - that is literally some of the most stunning cinematography I've ever seen (and yes, Roger Deakins has his second Oscar in the bag). The same sequence also features the best track from the score, IMO, and man, it all makes for such a hauntingly beautiful and tense sequence.
I don't think I've ever had a scene in a movie affect me the way this one did. Like, even as I was watching it I was able to realize I'd think about it for a very long time.
I didn't find it to be tense, or scary or anything - just really beautiful like you said. And yes, the music only enhanced it.
I agree with almost everything said here. Really great film, left a little to be desired, but still easily one of the best movies of 2019
That definitely just shot up to my top 5 for 2019 movies.
I say this after every Deakins movie, but he really is the best in the business. Absolutely beautiful looking film. (DEFINITELY one to watch in IMAX.)
Really loved the music, too. Got your heart rate up at just the right moments.
The story, as many have said, did leave a tiny bit to be desired. That's really the only thing that's keeping it from being equal to Dunkirk for me. (Which for the record was my favorite movie of 2017.) It was just missing that "one moment" to put it over the top.
A couple of crazy moments that were totally unexpected. (You know the ones.) Those were amazing.
Overall very, very good movie and one of Mendes' best. Cannot recommend IMAX enough for this one.
I say this after every Deakins movie, but he really is the best in the business. Absolutely beautiful looking film. (DEFINITELY one to watch in IMAX.)
Really loved the music, too. Got your heart rate up at just the right moments.
The story, as many have said, did leave a tiny bit to be desired. That's really the only thing that's keeping it from being equal to Dunkirk for me. (Which for the record was my favorite movie of 2017.) It was just missing that "one moment" to put it over the top.
A couple of crazy moments that were totally unexpected. (You know the ones.) Those were amazing.
Overall very, very good movie and one of Mendes' best. Cannot recommend IMAX enough for this one.
Oh, and agree with TC. That scene in the ruins of the village was stunning. Best scene of 2019 maybe.
Ghost91 said:TCTTS said:
There's one sequence, in particular - at night, with flares - that is literally some of the most stunning cinematography I've ever seen (and yes, Roger Deakins has his second Oscar in the bag). The same sequence also features the best track from the score, IMO, and man, it all makes for such a hauntingly beautiful and tense sequence.
I don't think I've ever had a scene in a movie affect me the way this one did. Like, even as I was watching it I was able to realize I'd think about it for a very long time.
I didn't find it to be tense, or scary or anything - just really beautiful like you said. And yes, the music only enhanced it.
It reminded me of the jungle/night/flares scene in Apocalypse Now. Frankly, it's hard to avoid the comparison.
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