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matureag said:

Why did not the general pass along his written"stand down" order, tie it to a rock, give it to a pilot and have him drop it on the Colonel in charge of the battalions about to be sacrificed? Either no movie or a different plot I guess.
That's easy. It pre-supposes an aircraft was both available from other assignments and under his jurisdiction to dispatch to the mission. Other plot holes like the troop they met up with not giving some additional support are a little harder.

(You would be surprised how much in the Pacific US Army air failed to coordinate with ground or navy and vice versa. It is not hard to imagine that even though we saw planes, they were not at that General's disposal)
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I saw 1917 today and thought it was fantastic. I'd heard the praise, but still went in with average expectations. All the trailers I saw only showed that final charge into the grassy field and I thought, "If that's what they think no-man's land looked like, this is going to blow." Instead, it was the best WWI movie I've ever seen (though I haven't seen many) and one of the most immersive war movies I've ever seen. The opening of them walking from the rear to the front, no man's land, and the flares over the ruined city were all fantastically done. Just wow!

The only nitpick I really had is I expected it to be much more difficult to talK Cumberpatch out of the attack after the warning at the river crossing. I guess he was reluctant to read the orders but when he did and followed them so quickly, yes it makes sense that a professional soldier would do that, but I'd been set up to expect a bit more of a conflict there.

This was definitely a movie that hung with me when I left the theater.
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Saw it today with my son. It's a tough watch in many ways. The suspense, the gore, the sounds. And then there is the humanity.

The milk, the brother at the front, the cherry blossoms, the tenor, the old man that gives him a ride for a few miles with his company.

I've only seen it today, so perhaps my perception will change. I think it's among the best films I've ever seen.
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Saw the movie last night. It was excellent.
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Saw it tonight and loved it. Fantastic film
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Quad Dog said:

Go call your dad, because I can't now and this movie, especially the tag at the end, made me want to.
100%

My old man (a Cold War vet) is 83 and I just found out today that he tries to call me frequently but my mother stops him due to time zone differences. I'm kinda pissed at my mom right now. I'll take my dad's call anytime of day or night - even if it is just to talk about pointless crap like A&M sports.
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titan said:

Also I half expected they were going to say the milk was poisoned and the cow left because it was part of the setup. It wasn't explained. But still don't really buy the scene with the aviator. The one least likely to reward their chivalry that way. It did have the virtue of achieving total surprise ---I half-way thought the German pilot was going to be `drafted' into helping them part of the way, and then would more naturally make a move.
One thing I did like about that scene though was, once he realised what was up and decided to take action, he did it without hesitation or remorse.
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third coast.. said:

In regards to the actual time elapsed, I got the feeling that while it was only 2 hours in screen time, alot of the the things they did were kind of compressed on screen but were meant to all be much longer than they were if you know what I mean. Like each segment was only 10 or so minutes but was meant to portray a few hours of actual day time. Think grand theft auto how the day goes by faster in the background while you are playing.
One testament to how well done this movie is, At no point did I even look at my watch, or try to figure out how much time was left. It held my interest the entire time. It never dragged, or felt rushed.
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HollywoodBQ said:

Quad Dog said:

Go call your dad, because I can't now and this movie, especially the tag at the end, made me want to.
100%

My old man (a Cold War vet) is 83 and I just found out today that he tries to call me frequently but my mother stops him due to time zone differences. I'm kinda pissed at my mom right now. I'll take my dad's call anytime of day or night - even if it is just to talk about pointless crap like A&M sports.


200%.

I took my dad to see the movie. My grandfather was a WWII vet. My dad recently found his identification wrist band that my grandfather had hidden away. Inscribed on the back, "God bless you, Maila". That was the last message my grandmother would have received from him had he not returned from Europe. My father now wears it. We both noticed one of the actors wearing one and I suspect we both shed some tears. This movie manages to hit a grand slam on the humanity of war. I'll take that over an action war movie full of CGI every time.
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Can't wait to see it. Think I'll go a weeknight this week.
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Saw this today and loved it, I still think I'd put Ford vs Ferrari slightly above this, but both are damn good. The lead actor was outstanding, bright future ahead for him.
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Saw this last night.

The best wartime film I've seen since Saving Private Ryan.

Mendes really put his heart and soul into this. The caption at the end was touching.

The score, wow. Incredible. I've never seen a war film where the music truly "fit the moment" like this. It deserves an Oscar.

Heard about the camera technique/perspective going in, and I really like how it turned out. It made you truly feel like you were right there. Had me on the edge of my seat, especially after the trip wire.
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Went last night and I was astounded.

  • The random bodies that they never zoomed in on that just appeared from time to time
  • The dead horses
  • The men getting ready to go over the top
  • The assault from the trench and the absolute futility of what they were doing

I felt like the only time that I wasn't on edge was the scene with the child. The rest of the movie, I felt as if my entire body was clinched and waiting for something to happen.

I actually got angry at the utter destruction and futility of that war.

My son and I sat in silence until the lights came on.
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The single shot and the sound design were so perfect for this film. Together, they really pull you in and give you that "being there" sense. I'm glad I saw it in the theater.
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Yep.

I actually had a lump in my throat at that point.
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The report of the sniper rifle about made me come out of my seat. I think that I spent the rest of that part with my head ducked down.
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Geriatric Punk said:

The single shot and the sound design were so perfect for this film. Together, they really pull you in and give you that "being there" sense. I'm glad I saw it in the theater.
Agreed.

If felt like I was walking with them and not watching them.
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finally saw it yesterday. what a great movie experience. this is a for sure bluray purchase.

this is the first time that WW1 felt as real as WW2 does after seeing saving private ryan.

really good stuff.
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Stupe said:

Went last night and I was astounded.

  • The random bodies that they never zoomed in on that just appeared from time to time
  • The dead horses
  • The men getting ready to go over the top
  • The assault from the trench and the absolute futility of what they were doing

I felt like the only time that I wasn't on edge was the scene with the child. The rest of the movie, I felt as if my entire body was clinched and waiting for something to happen.

I actually got angry at the utter destruction and futility of that war.

My son and I sat in silence until the lights came on.
So much this. It was what made the closing scenes so powerful (as thirdcoast's post below) undersscores--- all those men just going "over the top" and dying one after another, in campaigns all across Europe, and in most cases for so little gain. While at the same time some of the most incompetent government leaders and generals were in charge of the decision making and kept violating the old definition of stupidity of `doing the same thing and expecting a different result' for so long. World War I destroyed the whole promise of the first part of the 20th Century and was so avoidable. They had so much more in common than differences. And of course World War I ushers in the seeds of the radical Mideast, and radical communism from Soviet Russia and other places. Not to mention Nazism and so much else.

It is appropriate and just that World War One finally start being lifted from the gray limbo of black and white that makes it so unknown to present generations so that it becomes as "real and terrible" as World War II. It is one of the ironies of documentation that World War I is the `war in limbo' because it comes after photography had displaced paintings as war documentation but before it is in color. You see, no one has any trouble "visualizing" the American Revolution, War of 1812, Alamo, and the Civil War in color because of the vivid color paintings of all the actions and clashes (often with photograph quality). The spattering of movies of them also help. But you get to World War I and you lack both many color Hollywood movies--- but have plenty of black and white photographs so that color paintings of it are somewhat edged out.

Its what made "They Shall Not Grow Old" so special, and now "1917".

We need a World War One epic at sea-- - perhaps the chase of the Goeben which influences modern Turkey by playing a role in bringing the Ottomans into the war on the side of the Germans. Another candidate would be the dramatic pursuit around the world of German cruiser Emden. Finally ending off Australia.
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We need a World War One epic at sea

Look up The Battle of Jutland on Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast. We've been trying to turn into a movie. We talked to Carlin personally and he was all for it, but then his agent stepped in and wouldn't let Carlin sell us the rights (at the time, his agent was trying to cut a deal for Carlin's entire library with other, bugger companies). So we've been talking (among our company) about just doing the research ourselves or finding a writer and making it that way. Just need to find the time...
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TCTTS said:


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We need a World War One epic at sea

Look up The Battle of Jutland on Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast. We've been trying to turn into a movie. We talked to Carlin personally and he was all for it, but then his agent stepped in and wouldn't let Carlin sell us the rights (at the time, his agent was trying to cut a deal for Carlin's entire library with other, bugger companies). So we've been talking (among our company) about just doing the research ourselves or finding a writer and making it that way. Just need to find the time...
Really? How interesting. That's a shame you ran into some kind of rights problem, but this is a historical battle. You don't need a particular version if you are not adapting some novel. Its easy to bypass that.

Trust me, get this, and you will be able to do entirely accurate reconstructions of the battle and exactly what ships looked like and how sinking in `1917' quality and detail of features for any reconstruction. It actually isn't just the wrecks---it describes how the battle unfolded and they came to be there.

Jutland 1916: The Archaeology of a Naval Battlefield by Innes McCartney

https://www.amazon.com/Jutland-1916-Archaeology-Naval-Battlefield-ebook/dp/B01NCNJPEZ/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Jutland+1916%3A+The+Archaeology+of+a+Naval+Battlefield&qid=1579661094&s=books&sr=1-1

Then you or others can create fictional characters to populate a script, and no doubt, perhaps introduce some domestic elements ashore if want to. How much percentage of the movie would be the sea battle? (Midway it is only the last quarter, or third, depending on how look at it--that is `Midway')

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Awesome, thanks. Will do.
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When you're as big as he is, yeah.
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Carlin is a master. There is no one better at history podcasting.
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Saw this again tonight and may be even more impressed with it on the second viewing. Can't imagine anything beating it out for Best Picture, but I haven't seen a few of the other nominees. It's just so perfect.
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Still haven't seen 1917 but man a movie on Jutland would be great.
 
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