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brucoh said:

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So Carrie is charged with the death of the president and many others, but is able to stay at the house of a cabinet member of the current president and is allowed to come and go as she pleases even crossing state lines as she is awaiting trial?

Seems legit.

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Yeah, the show pretty much made you suspend all disbelief after S2. You have to view Homeland through a lens that Carrie is allowed to pretty much do whatever she wants and there's always someone with enough sway to keep her from being shutdown but also enough convenient amnesia to forget what happens every.single.time with Carrie. She's basically Jack Bauer.

This season has been somewhat enjoyable, but really not a fan of the eleventh hour russian spy contact story. Seems kinda silly to wait until 2 episodes before a 7 season series finale to play the "flashback to Saul's past" card.

Oh and look Carrie is elaborately arranging things on the floor to put all the pieces together with her beautiful mind JUST LIKE SHE USED TO DO BACK IN THE DAY!

I really feel like the only way to give this series justice is to end it with Carrie finally getting prosecuted, finally having to answer for all the collateral damage, and getting the electric chair complete with the quivering-lip cry-face Carrie right before they throw the switch.

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Yep, I've been with this show from the first episode and have always stuck with it despite some of the ridiculous storylines. I wish so much that the show would end in disaster for Carrie and Saul. Give us an ending that will have people talking. End it with Pakistan launching their nuclear missiles. Screw a happy ending. But we all know that the show will p*** out and Carrie and Saul will get it figured out in the end and avoid disaster.

Agreed. More than any show I've watched in recent memory this show needs the "bad" ending.

My guess is Saul figures it out, works his asset to save the day, and ends up killing Carrie. Or the opposite of all of that happens.

watching live tonight for first time in probly 4 years. feelsgoodman

She got a cry-face into the finale interview. That's just......brilliant.

Solid ending!

Carrie, you magnificent bipolar piece of work, you.

Great series finale. Nice ending.

Surprisingly good season

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With two episodes to go I'd say there is fair chance Saul is kidnapped one more time visiting the Russian mole.

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kidnapped in his GD house!!!

I mostly called it. Such a Homeland cliche.

It was meh. I really wanted Carrie to get offed given the ridiculous ploy they set up for her to be a Brody and then be the next asset in Russia.

Glad it's over.

(Yes I meant to quote my own post)

Liked the ending. Good finale.

I'm satisfied. Well played Carrie, well played.

Pretty solid finale

Poor Frannie now has both of her parents go down as two of the biggest traitors in US history...

i enjoyed the season and the ending even though most of it was pretty ridiculous.

Right before the "two years later" screen, after they were done watching the press conference, what was said? I know they said that the asset was dead and that Saul had warned her so she killed herself. But what was said after that? We rewound it twice and couldn't understand what Carrie said.

Where were they going? We're they going into hiding bc they thought Saul would come after them?

mavsfan4ever said:

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Right before the "two years later" screen, after they were done watching the press conference, what was said? I know they said that the asset was dead and that Saul had warned her so she killed herself. But what was said after that? We rewound it twice and couldn't understand what Carrie said.

Where were they going? We're they going into hiding bc they thought Saul would come after them?

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They figured that Israeli counter-intelligence would come after her once Saul spread the word of what she did. Or something like that.

dave94 said:

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mavsfan4ever said:

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Right before the "two years later" screen, after they were done watching the press conference, what was said? I know they said that the asset was dead and that Saul had warned her so she killed herself. But what was said after that? We rewound it twice and couldn't understand what Carrie said.

Where were they going? We're they going into hiding bc they thought Saul would come after them?

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They figured that Israeli counter-intelligence would come after her once Saul spread the word of what she did. Or something like that.

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And they rushed to get her into Syria

They were worried about israeli intelligence getting them. Since saul was able to warn the asset, they knew he had access to communicate what happened and he also had to know they had to be in Israel with his sister

Gotcha thanks

A really well written conclusion to the entire story. It 100% fit. And I didn't know what was going to happen. I thought they were going to kill Saul off. But the conclusion all made sense given the years long storyline. It is very Carrie. Her life is deceit and destruction - personal and to those around her. And poor Frannie. .

I wasn't as happy with the finale as many of you. We had this eleventh hour "russian contact" that suddenly is such a big part of Saul's life. Fine. Tough to care about a character that didn't exist until 3 episodes left in the series but whatever.

But it seemed like the whole late buildup was "kill Saul". Carrie was going to have to kill Saul. Oh my Carrie just drugged Saul he is going to die. Oh no the GRU is here they are going to kill him. Oh no they've got him on his bed and are about to inject him and Saul's given one more chance. Damn, that's it for Saul.

Then flash to the next scene - oh Saul's alive just being held captive. So we could have just had Saul kidnapped like we've done 10,000 times in this show, but we needed to fake the viewer out thinking this time they were playing for keeps!

Just rang pretty hollow to me. And a few text messages cause the GRU guys to bolt without him? Not even going to wait until the mole is detained? Not even going to take Saul's cell phone so he can't warn the mole? That was some '24' writing.

And while I can appreciate the full circle of Carrie becoming an operative in Russia -- are we really going to believe that Russia and the GRU (one of which she's married to) are going to be letting her operate without 24 hour surveillance? The long time CIA operative goes to Russia to live with a GRU and all suspicion is dropped of her motives? Yeah, no.

Probably the 3rd or 4th best season though, and a the series as a whole has been an entertaining ride -- but man talk about a show that started off so strong, had so many good actors, but just never could really recapture the magic.

What's funny is they could have just run the ruse on Saul's sister from the beginning. Carrie had to know he was never going to give up the source.

Which would have sucked if he happened to call her during the ruse. He was being held captive while she did this.
Of course, she could have also just checked CNN, a high level official dying would have been there.

Right, but it's not like they couldn't have blocked incoming communication. I don't mean to nitpick a show that basically became popcorn entertainment over time. I mean we did have Saul kidnapped 2 more times LOL. I just thought all the Saul drama was funny when headfaking the sister was all it took

There was no certainty that Saul's sister had anything for Carrie and even if she did that it would relate to the interpreter asset. That was hope and desperation by Carrie.

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There was no certainty that Saul's sister had anything for Carrie and even if she did that it would relate to the interpreter asset. That was hope and desperation by Carrie.

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The whole thing even from the GRU's end was hope and desperation. They wanted her to kill Saul simply hoping that Carrie was who she would be handed over to, and while likely, there was no realistic timetable on how long that would take to happen and by what means. For all they knew it was the interpreter that had been told that if Saul dies to do 'xyz' a month or six months after.

The whole last 2 episodes really just seem like they existed on their own. Suddenly we create this russian asset and a Saul backstory, then... what can Carrie do that is the ultimate betrayal? Ooooh, lets set it up so she has to kill Saul. But killing Saul is too dark for this show to end on, so we'll make everyone think she's killed him then walk it back.

I only shortly gave up on the show before coming back, because it is still a very well acted series that can be exciting at times... But man oh man the writing just wasn't up to snuff.

Considering how some very iconic shows finales (Seinfeld) were so lame, this one was not a disappointment. True, it started so strong with Brodie. I confess I bailed after season three and it took me a couple of years to come back. When you consider where we were as a country when it premiered in 2001 it did descend into White House politics and sameness that we can come to expect. But I am glad i picked it up and stayed to the end. But that's just me.

TellMeMore said:

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Considering how some very iconic shows finales (Seinfeld) were so lame, this one was not a disappointment. True, it started so strong with Brodie. I confess I bailed after season three and it took me a couple of years to come back. When you consider where we were as a country when it premiered in 2001 it did descend into White House politics and sameness that we can come to expect. But I am glad i picked it up and stayed to the end. But that's just me.

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It premiered in 2011

Finally watched the finale , and LOVED IT. Great and fitting ending to Carrie's story.

With this show you have always needed to suspend reality so not sure why some of you are being so picky. For pete's sake, the whole idea that someone with Carrie's issues would be allowed anywhere near intelligence or into that world is totally unreal.

This show was not good the last couple of years, but this finale season was probably one of its strongest, and the finale itself was very satisfying and well done.

I heard an interview with Ricky Carlisle, Dallas Mavs coach, and he mentioned it was a good finale. Glad I came back for the last season. Probably a way better benge than having to watch over a couple of months.

It had a lot of holes and got very pro-Taliban at times but it was an improvement from previous years.

Also...
Poor Franny. I bet she's nuttier than squirrel turds.

Here's a look at Franny now

Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:

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Finally watched the finale , and LOVED IT. Great and fitting ending to Carrie's story.

With this show you have always needed to suspend reality so not sure why some of you are being so picky. For pete's sake, the whole idea that someone with Carrie's issues would be allowed anywhere near intelligence or into that world is totally unreal.

This show was not good the last couple of years, but this finale season was probably one of its strongest, and the finale itself was very satisfying and well done.

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Some folks really really over analyze Hollywood productions. This series was entertaining and the finale was great.

I just finally got around to the last 2 seasons BTW.

Streaming Netflix because I dropped Showtime 7 years ago.

We're watching this on Netflix and we're on the last episode of Season 3 right now. We've enjoyed it but have been left with the unmistakable impression that Carrie should never be trusted when the stakes are high.