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Anyone else feel like it was a bit overrated? I really just felt meh after watching it. Maybe just was not in the mood for it. But really expected more.
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Loved it at the theater! Bought it the same day and watched it with fam when it was finally released and for me it wasn't as enjoyable at home... I still liked it but the theater experience was so much better. (Similar to Dunkirk in that regard for me)
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I think it suffers from the fact that you kind of have to know how the sausage is made to fully appreciate it. "One" long shot across the whole film is remarkable, but that can only go so far if the story isn't compelling. That said, I did like the story, but I could be convinced it was a pretty run of the mill war movie outside of the cinematography.
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Didn't see it in theaters, but when I finally saw it, I thought it was meh.
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I enjoyed the hell out of it in the theater. Haven't watched it at home yet. I imagine it will suffer at least a little from the transition but we'll see.
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The making of and behind the scenes rabbit holes on youtube and elsewhere were truly fascinating to me. Some really cool stuff about the timing (choreography as it were), planning, the one jump cut, and a few accidents they decided to keep in the film because of $. I've probably watched 10 or 15 and absolutely enjoyed them.
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Very overrated, an incredible achievement in film making....but very meh movie overall
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Very disappointing to learn the movie wasn't actually one take, and also that it was not actually filmed during a WW1 battle
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The Dunkirk comparison is appropriate. Like Dunkirk, 1917 was a great theater movie to watch, but also like Dunkirk, it just didn't work as well on the TV screen. Still, I thought both were among the best movies of the years during which they were released.
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I thought it was a good movie other than the soundtrack, which was irritating and monotonous.
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1917 was the last movie I saw in theaters... I really, really enjoyed it and appreciated the technical aspects of the film. I thought the story was fine, nothing special, and the acting was likewise middle of the road. I still think it's a great piece of film-making and pretty much have no desire to see it again outside the theater.

I could watch behind the scenes, making-of videos about it all day though.
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The tension built during the run through no man's land and the German trench bunkers was outstanding in my view. I really lost interest when the German pilot scene came around. I liked the final push to deliver the message but the section between pilot and the 1st wave run was not compelling to me. Probably would have liked it better in theater as others have said.
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Amazing movie
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It's an amazing movie, but after seeing it that first time in the theater, I feel that the movie would have been better if it had been done as a series of long takes rather than just the two.

It was a nice "gimmick" but I think it was relied on too much.

Still a great film.
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It has held up for me on repeat viewings.
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I really wish someone would do a 3 or 4 season series on WWI. I listened to Dan Carlin's multi hour podcast on WWI and it has so many interesting angles to it; the assasination and immediate choosing of sides by all the major powers, early war wins, the grind for 3 years, the impact to the many kings/queens, empires/czars throughout Europe who seemingly were all related, Rasputin, the Spanish Flu, the hesitant US involvement, etc.
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WestAustinAg said:

I really wish someone would do a 3 or 4 season series on WWI. I listened to Dan Carlin's multi hour podcast on WWI and it has so many interesting angles to it; the assasination and immediate choosing of sides by all the major powers, early war wins, the grind for 3 years, the impact to the many kings/queens, empires/czars throughout Europe who seemingly were all related, Rasputin, the Spanish Flu, the hesitant US involvement, etc.


WW1 is incredibly fascinating and changed the course of the entire world. For some reason it gets mostly ignored compared to WW2
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WW2 has a great villain. WW1 is too "complicated."
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didn't see it in theater, only on 65inch screen at home,, enjoyed it for what it was, including the uniqueness of the "single" shot. otherwise relatively forgettable, i'd put it in category of 'watch it every 5-10 years'
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schmendeler said:

WW2 has a great villain. WW1 is too "complicated."


I really do think it's because of the nazis that WW2 is an easier story to tell. Lines are already clear and drawn and you don't have to really explain anything to the audience. You just flash a swastika flag or armband and Indiana Jones says "he hates those guys" and everyone is on the same page.
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I agree that WWII is a far easier history to understand to the typical audience member. WWI has so much more intricacy to it - what caused it to start, who the combatants were and the connections between ally groups, etc - but in a story such as 1917, it wasn't really interested in the origins of the war. It was easy enough to ascertain the British and the Germans, and I believe even a general understanding of the history allows one to know they were opposing forces.

I'd love to see a series that explores deep into the history of WWI, something akin to Band of Brothers or The Pacific.
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WestAustinAg said:

I really wish someone would do a 3 or 4 season series on WWI. I listened to Dan Carlin's multi hour podcast on WWI and it has so many interesting angles to it; the assasination and immediate choosing of sides by all the major powers, early war wins, the grind for 3 years, the impact to the many kings/queens, empires/czars throughout Europe who seemingly were all related, Rasputin, the Spanish Flu, the hesitant US involvement, etc.
honestly, WW1 could supply enough material for a cinematic universe. from the u boats, to the trench warfare, to the middle east theater, to the way it set up the issues 20 years later, to the problems we are still having with the middle east. that's a ton of content to explore.
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Really impressive in the theater. Can't really compare it to anything else. Nowhere near my favorite war film but it was still good.

Not sure how it'd do watching on the tv at home.
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I desperately want a Saving Private Ryan version of WW1. It was such a brutal war, but I feel like it's been forgotten or ignored. I don't even recall learning about it in high school or college history classes. It's like 1870-1930 didn't exist.
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If you haven't already, go watch the Canadian WW1 film Passchendaele.
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I'd also recommend They Shall Not Grow Old...the Peter Jackson project from a year or two ago where they brought actual WWI footage to color and told the stories of the soldiers throughout.
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I liked the idea not so much for the cinematography tricks, which were cool, but just the attempt to try and show/tell a full story from one continuous point of view shot in a wartime mission was a neat concept. Barring the one cut to the time line, it was like you were along from beginning to end of the mission. Maybe not realistic, but interesting.
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Bruce Almighty said:

I desperately want a Saving Private Ryan version of WW1. It was such a brutal war, but I feel like it's been forgotten or ignored. I don't even recall learning about it in high school or college history classes. It's like 1870-1930 didn't exist.
I agree with this. I bet there is a bit more understanding of WWI in Europe.

One of my biggest pet peeves with others is ignorance of history. I feel like for so many Americans, if you put this timeline on a piece of paper and asked them to write about it, they wouldn't know what to do hardly. Some would know nothing, others could bookend it with the Civil War and WWII.

1860 - 1945

This is off topic, but do y'all think Americans are generally poor with history because we have such a short country history to begin with? May be fuel for a History board post.
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1917 was a good film. No doubt about that. But I bought into the hype and allowed myself to be let down. It was good and I sure as **** can respect the technical aspects but as just pure entertainment, it was just good to me. And not even excited good. I am also positive it was a one and done for me. I doubt I will ever seek to watch it again of my own volition.

Was better than Dunkirk though by a comfortable margin.
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Chipotlemonger said:

Bruce Almighty said:

I desperately want a Saving Private Ryan version of WW1. It was such a brutal war, but I feel like it's been forgotten or ignored. I don't even recall learning about it in high school or college history classes. It's like 1870-1930 didn't exist.
I agree with this. I bet there is a bit more understanding of WWI in Europe.

One of my biggest pet peeves with others is ignorance of history. I feel like for so many Americans, if you put this timeline on a piece of paper and asked them to write about it, they wouldn't know what to do hardly. Some would know nothing, others could bookend it with the Civil War and WWII.

1860 - 1945

This is off topic, but do y'all think Americans are generally poor with history because we have such a short country history to begin with? May be fuel for a History board post.

I don't know enough about the historical knowledge of the average person in other countries to be 100% confident in asserting that we know less about history on average. The only foreigners I ever see talking about history are professional historians.

If I had to posit a theory, it would go something like:

1. it's been a lot longer since we had a war fought on our soil, so it's less immediate

2. As countries go, our national myth certainly has a historical element, but I think it has a much bigger emphasis on what we are now and where we are going. We are a superpower right now, almost everyone else has to look back to find their zenith.

3. There is a lot of critical focus on parsing the actions of our national heroes. All of our national heroes come from a time with copious documentation, and many of them from the age of slavery. Most everyone in the 20th century on is viewed pretty ambivalently, probably because we've never really had put backs to the wall. Almost impossible to romanticize our past.

4. Ancient history is way cooler than modern history, and we have a lot less physical evidence of ancient history. People in hundreds of cities around the world walk past buildings every day that were built before Columbus set sail. We have a few mounds and outlines of native american settlements along the Mississippi, but anyone in Europe can visit the Pantheon, Parthenon, Stonehenge, or Hagia Sophia tomorrow.
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Very interesting comments on your part.

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3. There is a lot of critical focus on parsing the actions of our national heroes. All of our national heroes come from a time with copious documentation, and many of them from the age of slavery. Most everyone in the 20th century on is viewed pretty ambivalently...
Would be interested on you expounding on your comments. Seems we in the USA have acknowledged many military members as war heroes, from Audie Murphy to many many Generals/Admirals.
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h1ag said:

I think it suffers from the fact that you kind of have to know how the sausage is made to fully appreciate it. "One" long shot across the whole film is remarkable, but that can only go so far if the story isn't compelling. That said, I did like the story, but I could be convinced it was a pretty run of the mill war movie outside of the cinematography.
Isn't that part of what makes a film great though? Take any great movie and shoot it poorly and it's not going to be as good. As mentioned the idea of a single take is part of the story as well, continuously following that character's journey through this world.

That being said I think 1917 was a great theater experience kind of film and really good overall, but I can totally see it not holding up as well on the small screen.
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jeffk said:

If you haven't already, go watch the Canadian WW1 film Passchendaele.


Great film.
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I really enjoyed the film. However one scene didn't sit well with me because I don't think it would have happened (pilot). But everything else was good. I loved the details. The scenery; the background, the crowded trenches, the gear, etc... they really did their homework.
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Hey Nav said:

Very interesting comments on your part.

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3. There is a lot of critical focus on parsing the actions of our national heroes. All of our national heroes come from a time with copious documentation, and many of them from the age of slavery. Most everyone in the 20th century on is viewed pretty ambivalently...
Would be interested on you expounding on your comments. Seems we in the USA have acknowledged many military members as war heroes, from Audie Murphy to many many Generals/Admirals.

There is probably a generational difference. People educated in the 90s on likely have a pretty different experience.

Trying not to get too political, but I think there has been a broad push (not always coordinated, but still broad) to replace military heroes with political ones. I don't think Audie Murphy was mentioned in my formal education, for example. Military success is kind of icky now, even in a "good" conflict like WWII.

The Civil War would probably have generated more national heroes, except that the underdog with all the best generals was the south / "bad guys". The north won because of a massive advantage in population and industrial base, and that isn't a story that grabs people.

Modern political figures, especially some of the controversial ones, are not all that inspiring. Kids don't get excited about lists of legislation passed. We don't really have mythologized figures like Richard Lion Heart, Zheng He, El Cid, Pericles, Frederick, Napoleon, or Musashi. The images presented to students of our biggest "romantic" heroes have been endlessly inspected and revised; in the interests of presenting both sides, every flaw is magnified. Not saying it's wrong, just not as effective at inculcating a passion for history in the average person.
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