Looks just like Edith Bunker who was 47-56 when All in the Family was on.

lol

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Looks just like Edith Bunker who was 47-56 when All in the Family was on.

lol

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I don't think diet or fitness occurred to anyone but fringe weirdos if you were born before WWII.

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here is 55 now. No woman at 55 looked like this in the 70s or 80s, hell even 90s. We have definitely become more healthy overall.

https://instagr.am/p/COlaBPmFOTH

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Her IG is amazing.

Except it was Steve Guttenberg not Paul Rudd.

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Maybe I should have put this in the "something that really affected you" thread.

this...is...astonishing. I assumed The Traveling Wilburys were all in their 60's, and Roy Orbison even older.
I checked then double checked but these ages are totally accurate. I'm gonna go take a long walk in the woods and rethink everything. pic.twitter.com/nTUAyHEiyO

— Matt Oswalt (@MattOswaltVA) May 9, 2021

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This tweet is inaccurate. Roy Orbison has been dead 30+ years. The tweet uses present tense verbs, so he is stating what their ages are today on 2021 and is obviously wrong.

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Maybe I should have put this in the "something that really affected you" thread.

this...is...astonishing. I assumed The Traveling Wilburys were all in their 60's, and Roy Orbison even older.
I checked then double checked but these ages are totally accurate. I'm gonna go take a long walk in the woods and rethink everything. pic.twitter.com/nTUAyHEiyO

— Matt Oswalt (@MattOswaltVA) May 9, 2021

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This tweet is inaccurate. Roy Orbison has been dead 30+ years. The tweet uses present tense verbs, so he is stating what their ages are today on 2021 and is obviously wrong.

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Ummm.... no. The tweet is talking about their ages then and the verb "assumed" is past tense.

The ages relate to their ages at the point the picture was taken - in 1988 when the Traveling Wilbury's released their 1st album shortly before Roy died. Roy Orbison was 52 in 1988. He would be 86 now so obviously ages are not "what their ages are today" as you said.

Unless you are being sarcastic I think you missed the entire point of the tweet.

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most nerds are better at math. he's not.

Growing up, I always thought Lyndon Johnson was an old man as president based on pictures. He was president between the ages of 55 to 60. I am now 60 but not THAT old.

Was at Country Music Hall of fame in Nashville this past weekend. They were telling stories of Elvis and Roy Orbison as peers of similar ages back in the day. I thought of Orbison as that kind of a singer when TW came out. Geriatric.

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For whatever reason, artists rarely have staying power like that any more, at least not in rock music.

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I disagree entirely.. a slew of 90s and 2000s rock bands are still all over radio.

It's just not your dad's rock. It's godsmack, korn, disturbed, linkin park, three days grace, et al., let alone grunge, STP, SP, metallica, pantera, NIN. Unless the singer is dead, they all are putting out music still.

80s is the only rock genre where many of the bands really died hard. You have to go out of your way on a music format to listen to warrant, winger or Cinderella.

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That's because only old people listen to the radio. Kids are streaming.

Also, the 80's hair bands are on the Classic Rock stations now. Not hard to find.

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For whatever reason, artists rarely have staying power like that any more, at least not in rock music.

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I disagree entirely.. a slew of 90s and 2000s rock bands are still all over radio.

It's just not your dad's rock. It's godsmack, korn, disturbed, linkin park, three days grace, et al., let alone grunge, STP, SP, metallica, pantera, NIN. Unless the singer is dead, they all are putting out music still.

80s is the only rock genre where many of the bands really died hard. You have to go out of your way on a music format to listen to warrant, winger or Cinderella.

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That's because only old people listen to the radio. Kids are streaming.

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https://theindustryobserver.thebrag.com/spotify-reveals-the-most-streamed-bands/

15 out of top 20 are 90s or newer (counting metallica, GnR and RHCP). No hair bands from the 80s are on the list. The remaining 5 are pre-90s, quintessential rock bands with proven generational staying power. But I bet many of these 15 'modern' bands are still on streaming/radio for decades to come.

This is 2017, so not totally recent, but recent enough.

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For whatever reason, artists rarely have staying power like that any more, at least not in rock music.

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I disagree entirely.. a slew of 90s and 2000s rock bands are still all over radio.

It's just not your dad's rock. It's godsmack, korn, disturbed, linkin park, three days grace, et al., let alone grunge, STP, SP, metallica, pantera, NIN. Unless the singer is dead, they all are putting out music still.

80s is the only rock genre where many of the bands really died hard. You have to go out of your way on a music format to listen to warrant, winger or Cinderella.

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That's because only old people listen to the radio. Kids are streaming.

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https://theindustryobserver.thebrag.com/spotify-reveals-the-most-streamed-bands/

15 out of top 20 are 90s or newer (counting metallica, GnR and RHCP). No hair bands from the 80s are on the list. The remaining 5 are quintessential rock bands.

This is 2017, so not totally recent, but recent enough.

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Hate to tell you - I mean they may not be 80s hair bands - but they are definitely 80s bands. They all formed in the 80s and put their first albums out in the 80s.

Metallica - 1981, first album 1983
RHCP - 1983, first album 1984
GnR - 1985, first album 1987


some others on that list also formed in the 80s

Nirvana - 1987, first album 1989
Green Day - 1987, first EP in 1989, first album 1990 but recorded in 1989


The idea that the 80s rock only generated hair bands is highly slanted in retrospect.

80s is THE greatest rock decade - established (non hair band) rock acts were also at their peak then or still at a high level including:
AC/DC, Scorpions, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Queen, Def Leppard, Aerosmith, The Clash, Dio, Dokken, Foreigner, KISS, Ozzy, Triumph, ZZ Top, etc.

I can listen to 60s, 70s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s rock, but not 80s. And I was 8-18 in the 1980s.

The best thing the 80's did was to make rock music so ****ty so fast that the young rockers got so disgusted with it they did a complete 180 and forced the genre totally back to basics in the 90s.

And for that, we thank the hair-teased, over-coked, makeup covered, leapard print spandex wearing, guitar ballerinas of the 80s.

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I can listen to 60s, 70s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s rock, but not 80s. And I was 8-18 in the 1980s.

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I take that back. I still like VanHalen / Van Hagar. .

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For whatever reason, artists rarely have staying power like that any more, at least not in rock music.

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I disagree entirely.. a slew of 90s and 2000s rock bands are still all over radio.

It's just not your dad's rock. It's godsmack, korn, disturbed, linkin park, three days grace, et al., let alone grunge, STP, SP, metallica, pantera, NIN. Unless the singer is dead, they all are putting out music still.

80s is the only rock genre where many of the bands really died hard. You have to go out of your way on a music format to listen to warrant, winger or Cinderella.

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That's because only old people listen to the radio. Kids are streaming.

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https://theindustryobserver.thebrag.com/spotify-reveals-the-most-streamed-bands/

15 out of top 20 are 90s or newer (counting metallica, GnR and RHCP). No hair bands from the 80s are on the list. The remaining 5 are quintessential rock bands.

This is 2017, so not totally recent, but recent enough.

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Hate to tell you - I mean they may not be 80s hair bands - but they are definitely 80s bands. They all formed in the 80s and put their first albums out in the 80s.

Green Day - 1987, first EP in 1989, first album 1990 but recorded in 1989

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Billy Joe would like a word:

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SWC Ag said:

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Maybe I should have put this in the "something that really affected you" thread.

this...is...astonishing. I assumed The Traveling Wilburys were all in their 60's, and Roy Orbison even older.
I checked then double checked but these ages are totally accurate. I'm gonna go take a long walk in the woods and rethink everything. pic.twitter.com/nTUAyHEiyO

— Matt Oswalt (@MattOswaltVA) May 9, 2021

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Either:

1. This tweet is a lie, or
2. People age better now.

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Pretty sure they lived a little "harder" than most.

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Not only was that music on but I would talk to my kids about the bands especially if they had any questions, but also just to say who that was, what year it came out, if it was on some monster album, etc. or if some cover version by a band they knew then i would mention or play the original, etc. I am a huge rock trivia buff too so I would talk about the bands.

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File video of Zombie Jon Snow:

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c said:

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For whatever reason, artists rarely have staying power like that any more, at least not in rock music.

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I disagree entirely.. a slew of 90s and 2000s rock bands are still all over radio.

It's just not your dad's rock. It's godsmack, korn, disturbed, linkin park, three days grace, et al., let alone grunge, STP, SP, metallica, pantera, NIN. Unless the singer is dead, they all are putting out music still.

80s is the only rock genre where many of the bands really died hard. You have to go out of your way on a music format to listen to warrant, winger or Cinderella.

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That's because only old people listen to the radio. Kids are streaming.

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https://theindustryobserver.thebrag.com/spotify-reveals-the-most-streamed-bands/

15 out of top 20 are 90s or newer (counting metallica, GnR and RHCP). No hair bands from the 80s are on the list. The remaining 5 are quintessential rock bands.

This is 2017, so not totally recent, but recent enough.

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Hate to tell you - I mean they may not be 80s hair bands - but they are definitely 80s bands. They all formed in the 80s and put their first albums out in the 80s.

Metallica - 1981, first album 1983
RHCP - 1983, first album 1984
GnR - 1985, first album 1987


some others on that list also formed in the 80s

Nirvana - 1987, first album 1989
Green Day - 1987, first EP in 1989, first album 1990 but recorded in 1989

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You apparently totally missed the previous convo. My reply was to - 'artists don't have that kind of staying power anymore' referring to Petty, Dylan, etc.

My point stands, these bands are still around and heavily streamed. I replied plenty of 90s bands and newer have staying power on radio, someone retorted with young kids don't listen to radio, so I replied with top spotify artists.. with majority from recent times.

But I have to say you have a ridiculous reply. I'll give you GnR; appetite sold better than any other, although UYI I and II were #1 and #2 in the 90s and saw them on a world tour with the other biggest band in the world, Metallica. Yes Metallica critical peak was 80s, but come on, black is highest selling album since it came out, and they've been around 4 decades.

Nirvana, RHCP (they were unknown until late '89) and green day, calling them 80s bands? GTFO.

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The idea that the 80s rock only generated hair bands is highly slanted in retrospect.

80s is THE greatest rock decade - established (non hair band) rock acts were also at their peak then or still at a high level including:
AC/DC, Scorpions, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Queen, Def Leppard, Aerosmith, The Clash, Dio, Dokken, Foreigner, KISS, Ozzy, Triumph, ZZ Top, etc.

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I will ask, outside of these established pre 1980 bands, and outside of GnR and metallica and your other ridiculous inclusions, what 80s bands are still around and prevalent/highly streamed?

None of them. No one cares about def leppard, poison, or motley crue except strippers, both young and aging.
Saying a band that had success in 70s who also had success in the 80s should be considered 80s is suspect.

Iron maiden is relevant today, because they aren't a hair band.

Hair bands just did not age well, end of story.

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c said:

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For whatever reason, artists rarely have staying power like that any more, at least not in rock music.

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I disagree entirely.. a slew of 90s and 2000s rock bands are still all over radio.

It's just not your dad's rock. It's godsmack, korn, disturbed, linkin park, three days grace, et al., let alone grunge, STP, SP, metallica, pantera, NIN. Unless the singer is dead, they all are putting out music still.

80s is the only rock genre where many of the bands really died hard. You have to go out of your way on a music format to listen to warrant, winger or Cinderella.

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That's because only old people listen to the radio. Kids are streaming.

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https://theindustryobserver.thebrag.com/spotify-reveals-the-most-streamed-bands/

15 out of top 20 are 90s or newer (counting metallica, GnR and RHCP). No hair bands from the 80s are on the list. The remaining 5 are quintessential rock bands.

This is 2017, so not totally recent, but recent enough.

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Hate to tell you - I mean they may not be 80s hair bands - but they are definitely 80s bands. They all formed in the 80s and put their first albums out in the 80s.

Green Day - 1987, first EP in 1989, first album 1990 but recorded in 1989

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Billy Joe would like a word:

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Billy Joe's mind has likely been riddled by drugs and he can't remember.


In his own words here - at 5:56




Previous band name earlier in 1987




Played at Gilman's under the name Green Day late 1987.

I don't think a band should be classified under any decade unless the majority of their success happened in 1 decade. I wouldn't call RHCP a 80s or 90s band just like I wouldn't call The Rolling Stones a 60s band. 90s bands are Nirvana, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, etc.

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62strat said:

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c said:

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For whatever reason, artists rarely have staying power like that any more, at least not in rock music.

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I disagree entirely.. a slew of 90s and 2000s rock bands are still all over radio.

It's just not your dad's rock. It's godsmack, korn, disturbed, linkin park, three days grace, et al., let alone grunge, STP, SP, metallica, pantera, NIN. Unless the singer is dead, they all are putting out music still.

80s is the only rock genre where many of the bands really died hard. You have to go out of your way on a music format to listen to warrant, winger or Cinderella.

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That's because only old people listen to the radio. Kids are streaming.

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https://theindustryobserver.thebrag.com/spotify-reveals-the-most-streamed-bands/

15 out of top 20 are 90s or newer (counting metallica, GnR and RHCP). No hair bands from the 80s are on the list. The remaining 5 are quintessential rock bands.

This is 2017, so not totally recent, but recent enough.

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Hate to tell you - I mean they may not be 80s hair bands - but they are definitely 80s bands. They all formed in the 80s and put their first albums out in the 80s.

Metallica - 1981, first album 1983
RHCP - 1983, first album 1984
GnR - 1985, first album 1987


some others on that list also formed in the 80s

Nirvana - 1987, first album 1989
Green Day - 1987, first EP in 1989, first album 1990 but recorded in 1989

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You apparently totally missed the previous convo. My reply was to - 'artists don't have that kind of staying power anymore' referring to Petty, Dylan, etc.

My point stands, these bands are still around and heavily streamed. I replied plenty of 90s bands and newer have staying power on radio, someone retorted with young kids don't listen to radio, so I replied with top spotify artists.. with majority from recent times.

But I have to say you have a ridiculous reply. I'll give you GnR; appetite sold better than any other, although UYI I and II were #1 and #2 in the 90s and saw them on a world tour with the other biggest band in the world, Metallica. Yes Metallica critical peak was 80s, but come on, black is highest selling album since it came out, and they've been around 4 decades.

Nirvana, RHCP (they were unknown until late '89) and green day, calling them 80s bands? GTFO.

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I didn't miss your previous convo - I had no issue with that.

I didn't say they were known as 80s bands - I was merely pointing out that they did originate in the 80s and the belief that the 80s produced only hair bands was insipid. GnR, U2 and Metallica alone negate that concept and plenty of non hair bands had creative and commercial peaks in the 80s.

I was agreeing that they are still around no argument there.

But people that are dismissive of the 80s have no clue how much there was outside of those awful hair bands.

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The idea that the 80s rock only generated hair bands is highly slanted in retrospect.

80s is THE greatest rock decade - established (non hair band) rock acts were also at their peak then or still at a high level including:
AC/DC, Scorpions, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Queen, Def Leppard, Aerosmith, The Clash, Dio, Dokken, Foreigner, KISS, Ozzy, Triumph, ZZ Top, etc.

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I will ask, outside of these established pre 1980 bands, and outside of GnR and metallica and your other ridiculous inclusions, what 80s bands are still around and prevalent/highly streamed?

None of them. No one cares about def leppard, poison, or motley crue except strippers, both young and aging.
Saying a band that had success in 70s who also had success in the 80s should be considered 80s is suspect.

Iron maiden is relevant today, because they aren't a hair band.

Hair bands just did not age well, end of story.

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Never argued anything about hair bands aging well I don't think so either. My only discussion was about good rock that came out of the 80s period. It is not all hair bands by far. My point was dismissing 80s good hard rock from ACDC, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Metallica, U2, GnR because of the hair bands is insipid. And even bands born in the late 80s that had their biggest success in the 90s while I would not categorize them as 80s bands there is no denying they were a product of the 80s and started in the late 80s. Nirvana, Greenday, etc. are reactions to and counter voice to hair bands thankfully... but they were born in the 80s. That's all. So dismissing the 80s is dismissing their origins.

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Same concept as the Brimley/Cocoon line. WB turned 50 during filming. These guys are the same age and it's hard to comprehend.

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Did Brimley spend all day in a tanning bed smoking cigarettes and eating twinkies? That objectively looks like hell for 49/50.

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For whatever reason, artists rarely have staying power like that any more, at least not in rock music.

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I disagree entirely.. a slew of 90s and 2000s rock bands are still all over radio.

It's just not your dad's rock. It's godsmack, korn, disturbed, linkin park, three days grace, et al., let alone grunge, STP, SP, metallica, pantera, NIN. Unless the singer is dead, they all are putting out music still.

80s is the only rock genre where many of the bands really died hard. You have to go out of your way on a music format to listen to warrant, winger or Cinderella.

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That's because only old people listen to the radio. Kids are streaming.

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https://theindustryobserver.thebrag.com/spotify-reveals-the-most-streamed-bands/

15 out of top 20 are 90s or newer (counting metallica, GnR and RHCP). No hair bands from the 80s are on the list. The remaining 5 are quintessential rock bands.

This is 2017, so not totally recent, but recent enough.

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Hate to tell you - I mean they may not be 80s hair bands - but they are definitely 80s bands. They all formed in the 80s and put their first albums out in the 80s.

Metallica - 1981, first album 1983
RHCP - 1983, first album 1984
GnR - 1985, first album 1987


some others on that list also formed in the 80s

Nirvana - 1987, first album 1989
Green Day - 1987, first EP in 1989, first album 1990 but recorded in 1989

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You apparently totally missed the previous convo. My reply was to - 'artists don't have that kind of staying power anymore' referring to Petty, Dylan, etc.

My point stands, these bands are still around and heavily streamed. I replied plenty of 90s bands and newer have staying power on radio, someone retorted with young kids don't listen to radio, so I replied with top spotify artists.. with majority from recent times.

But I have to say you have a ridiculous reply. I'll give you GnR; appetite sold better than any other, although UYI I and II were #1 and #2 in the 90s and saw them on a world tour with the other biggest band in the world, Metallica. Yes Metallica critical peak was 80s, but come on, black is highest selling album since it came out, and they've been around 4 decades.

Nirvana, RHCP (they were unknown until late '89) and green day, calling them 80s bands? GTFO.

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I didn't miss your previous convo - I had no issue with that.

I didn't say they were known as 80s bands - I was merely pointing out that they did originate in the 80s and the belief that the 80s produced only hair bands was insipid. GnR, U2 and Metallica alone negate that concept and plenty of non hair bands had creative and commercial peaks in the 80s.

I was agreeing that they are still around no argument there.

But people that are dismissive of the 80s have no clue how much there was outside of those awful hair bands.

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Maybe I wasn't clear with my verbiage. I never meant to say that 'no' bands created in the 80s had no staying power.

I meant to say the quintessential '80s' rock bands, aka hair bands, are for the most part dead. When the term '80s bands' is used, I think most people think of hair bands. Not Metallica, REM or U2, or any band that had large success in the 70s as well.


Google '80s rock bands' and the first 3 tiles are JBJ, MC and DL.. all hair bands.

When I was a kid, I thought Hank W. was like 50 when he died. But he was only 29.

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62strat said:

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dude95 said:

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62strat said:

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c said:

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For whatever reason, artists rarely have staying power like that any more, at least not in rock music.

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I disagree entirely.. a slew of 90s and 2000s rock bands are still all over radio.

It's just not your dad's rock. It's godsmack, korn, disturbed, linkin park, three days grace, et al., let alone grunge, STP, SP, metallica, pantera, NIN. Unless the singer is dead, they all are putting out music still.

80s is the only rock genre where many of the bands really died hard. You have to go out of your way on a music format to listen to warrant, winger or Cinderella.

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That's because only old people listen to the radio. Kids are streaming.

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https://theindustryobserver.thebrag.com/spotify-reveals-the-most-streamed-bands/

15 out of top 20 are 90s or newer (counting metallica, GnR and RHCP). No hair bands from the 80s are on the list. The remaining 5 are quintessential rock bands.

This is 2017, so not totally recent, but recent enough.

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Hate to tell you - I mean they may not be 80s hair bands - but they are definitely 80s bands. They all formed in the 80s and put their first albums out in the 80s.

Metallica - 1981, first album 1983
RHCP - 1983, first album 1984
GnR - 1985, first album 1987


some others on that list also formed in the 80s

Nirvana - 1987, first album 1989
Green Day - 1987, first EP in 1989, first album 1990 but recorded in 1989

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You apparently totally missed the previous convo. My reply was to - 'artists don't have that kind of staying power anymore' referring to Petty, Dylan, etc.

My point stands, these bands are still around and heavily streamed. I replied plenty of 90s bands and newer have staying power on radio, someone retorted with young kids don't listen to radio, so I replied with top spotify artists.. with majority from recent times.

But I have to say you have a ridiculous reply. I'll give you GnR; appetite sold better than any other, although UYI I and II were #1 and #2 in the 90s and saw them on a world tour with the other biggest band in the world, Metallica. Yes Metallica critical peak was 80s, but come on, black is highest selling album since it came out, and they've been around 4 decades.

Nirvana, RHCP (they were unknown until late '89) and green day, calling them 80s bands? GTFO.

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I didn't miss your previous convo - I had no issue with that.

I didn't say they were known as 80s bands - I was merely pointing out that they did originate in the 80s and the belief that the 80s produced only hair bands was insipid. GnR, U2 and Metallica alone negate that concept and plenty of non hair bands had creative and commercial peaks in the 80s.

I was agreeing that they are still around no argument there.

But people that are dismissive of the 80s have no clue how much there was outside of those awful hair bands.

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Maybe I wasn't clear with my verbiage. I never meant to say that 'no' bands created in the 80s had no staying power.

I meant to say the quintessential '80s' rock bands, aka hair bands, are for the most part dead. When the term '80s bands' is used, I think most people think of hair bands. Not Metallica, REM or U2, or any band that had large success in the 70s as well.


Google '80s rock bands' and the first 3 tiles are JBJ, MC and DL.. all hair bands.

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Arguing a semantic point I guess but...... to me......regardless of what google says......

If you are arguing that those 80s hair bands have no longevity (true) and then on the other hand admitting there were other 80s (non hair) rock bands that were highly successful and have had longevity it seems odd to me to designate that 80s bands means the ones with no longevity. I suppose because they were only around in the 80s. but those with longevity are also associated with the 80s (to me).

So that term 80s bands doesn't have the same meaning to me. 80s bands to me comprises the bands that had their beginning and/or commercial and critical success in the 80s (and possibly beyond) and there are many of those that are not hair bands.

Those hair bands are not quintessential 80s bands to me. They are identified with the 80s as a subgroup. Sure.

But if you asked me for the best 80s bands I'd list 25 really good bands and no hair bands.

potato tomato

I'd rank the 80s behind the 60s, 70s and 90s.