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This looks pretty bad

I didn't see a thread, so here goes....
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Agree- it looks bad but I hope its good.
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Why does this look bad?
This looks awesome! Classic M Knight. Good cast, mystery, thrills, intrigue. What else do you want?
Proposition Joe
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Normally I'd give it a show just to see what the twist/story is, but just from the trailer I can't stand the bad acting from the two parents.
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Will watch.
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It's not a reboot or superhero flick so it must be terrible. I'm terrified of original ideas.
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Btron said:

Why does this look bad?
This looks awesome! Classic M Knight. Good cast, mystery, thrills, intrigue. What else do you want?
Agreed! Looks like a typical M Knight movie. Hes had a few duds but I still give him the benefit of the doubt. Will watch.
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Parents should be thanking that beach, it just saved them hundreds of thousands of dollars of food, clothes, medicine, and doctor's appointments for those kids by skipping the rest of their childhood.
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gael garcia bernal is usually pretty solid.

add in the girl from jojo rabbit and the older brother from hereditary, and that's an interesting cast.
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I don't get the Shyamalan hate. Most of his movies are pretty good. 6th Sense is a masterpiece.
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aTmAg said:

I don't get the Shyamalan hate. Most of his movies are pretty good. 6th Sense is a masterpiece.


Signs and Unbreakable both have awesome rewatchability factors.
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Devil and The Visit are also great/underrated.
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aTmAg said:

I don't get the Shyamalan hate. Most of his movies are pretty good. 6th Sense is a masterpiece.
people are split on Signs and Village (i love both) but After Earth, Happening, and Airbender were 3 stinkers in a row. i liked Devil, Split, and Visit.
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people are split on Signs
They are? I thought that was pretty widely liked movie.
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C@LAg said:

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people are split on Signs
They are? I thought that was pretty widely liked movie.
the whole water thing is absolutely stupid (let's attack a planet that is 70% water) and many people discount the movie because of the triple-cheese factor of "swing away merrell"

i liked the movie overall, but those parts are the the two main criticisms or things ridiculed about the movie


If an alien had never encountered water, how would they know it could hurt them?
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"swing away merrell"
Best part of the movie for me.

I love that everything comes together in that one moment. (The baseball bat, the glasses of water everywhere, the kid's asthma.)
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C@LAg said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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people are split on Signs
They are? I thought that was pretty widely liked movie.
the whole water thing is absolutely stupid (let's attack a planet that is 70% water) and many people discount the movie because of the triple-cheese factor of "swing away merrell"

i liked the movie overall, but those parts are the the two main criticisms or things ridiculed about the movie
There is an interesting article that theorizes about this: https://screenrant.com/signs-movie-theory-creatures-not-aliens/

Summary: creatures are not aliens they are demons and and they are not harmed merely by water, but by holy water.
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The movie was definitely a metaphor demons, faith, etc.

But, I don't buy they were actually demons.
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I've been blah on most of his movies, but the scene in the Village when Joaquin is dressed as the wolf monster and starts running at Ron Howard's daughter in the forest made me jump outta my chair.
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I pissed off a date when we went to see the village. we went opening weekend, and i had not even seen the trailer. she was telling me about it before going in and i said "i bet the twist is that it is present day." afterwards, she said that I ruined the movie for her. lol
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

The movie was definitely a metaphor demons, faith, etc.

But, I don't buy they were actually demons.
That article missed one of the important parts of the idea:

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When I first saw this film, I didn't realize that it wasn't about aliens at all. It's about the return of demons. Notice it's all about a priest's resurgence of belief, and a preordained moment of redemption-if-dared-and-attempted. There is no alien technology or weaponry or clothing of any kind, only a clawed, naked beast creature and lights in the sky.

Furthermore: The running joke throughout the movie is that people see these "invaders" in a way that's related to their particular frame of mind: The cop sees them as prankster kids, the bookstore owners see them as "a hoax to sell commercials," the Army recruitment officer sees them as invading military, the kids see them as UFOs... and the Priest sees them as test of faith. This understanding of the film removed my hatred of the "You've got to be kidding me; they were killed by WATER!" concept. In fact, the priest's daughter had been referred to as "holy" (as revealed during Mel's key monologue) "recognized by all who saw her at her birth as "an Angel;" and her quite particular relationship to water is shown to be very special and spiritual: In other words, she has placed vials of what are, essentially, HOLY WATER all around the house. (And the creature's reaction when coming in contact with this blessed liquid is EXACTLY like monsters/vampires being splashed by spiritual "acid.")

This view of the movie also explains the creature's actions: They act like superior tricksters, are not able to break in through closed doors, can be trapped behind simple wooden latches "all mythological elements of demons and vampire-like creatures of lore. It also explains the news over the radio at the end of the movie that an ancient method of killing the creatures has been found "in three small cities in the Middle East" - one would suspect the religious "hubs" of the three main Abrahamic traditions, each discovering the "mystic methods" of protection-and-dispatch that I've noted earlier.

In the movie, there is never any sort of confirmation or statement that they are indeed aliens. Some characters in the movie think that's what they are. It's up to the viewer to decide what they really are. Some viewers have decided that those must be aliens and then complain that they are naked, hydro-allergic, and unable to bust through wooden doors. Perhaps, they aren't aliens? Nothing in the movie makes that definitive claim.
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The Sixth Sense - Classic
Unbreakable - Very good
Signs - Very good
The Village - Good
Lady in the Water - Hot garbage
The Happening - Hot garbage
The Last Airbender - Hot garbage
After Earth - Hot garbage
The Visit - Never saw it
Split - Good
Glass - Ok


He didn't direct Devil, but he wrote it... I'd file it under "Good"... Not deep in any way and some really corny parts, but it views much like a fun Hitchcock short.
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I think Im one of the few that actually liked The Happening. I remember reading up about it beforehand, and they said that his intention was creating a B Horror movie. If you watched the movie with the B Horror expectation, then its actually not a bad movie for what he was going for. A lot of people were hoping for another Sixth Sense type psychological thriller, but thats not what he was going for with that movie.

The Visit was also really good.
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The Visit was hilarious and terrifying.

Watched Signs last weekend and just think it's pretty brilliant.
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ea1060 said:

I think Im one of the few that actually liked The Happening. I remember reading up about it beforehand, and they said that his intention was creating a B Horror movie. If you watched the movie with the B Horror expectation, then its actually not a bad movie for what he was going for. A lot of people were hoping for another Sixth Sense type psychological thriller, but thats not what he was going for with that movie.

The Visit was also really good.
The first half of The Happening was pretty good as far as being suspenseful. Mostly everything else has been done before: zombies, asteroids, earthquakes, godzillas, nuclear holocausts, etc. As far as I know, this was a pretty original "end of the world" scenario that would be damn terrifying to go through.
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Fat Bib Fortuna said:

I've been blah on most of his movies, but the scene in the Village when Joaquin is dressed as the wolf monster and starts running at Ron Howard's daughter in the forest made me jump outta my chair.
Wasn't that Adrian Brody?
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TXAG 05 said:

C@LAg said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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people are split on Signs
They are? I thought that was pretty widely liked movie.
the whole water thing is absolutely stupid (let's attack a planet that is 70% water) and many people discount the movie because of the triple-cheese factor of "swing away merrell"

i liked the movie overall, but those parts are the the two main criticisms or things ridiculed about the movie


If an alien had never encountered water, how would they know it could hurt them?
I don't know, try not walking around completely naked on a new planet.

the only explanation is as someone above said is holy water. Otherwise they would have encountered dew or some sort of water while frolicking in the fields.
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Corporal Punishment said:

It's not a reboot or superhero flick so it must be terrible. I'm terrified of original ideas.



It is based on a graphic novel. I read it last night and it is an intriguing concept.
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The Happening is one of the best comedies of the last 20 years
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ea1060 said:

I think Im one of the few that actually liked The Happening. I remember reading up about it beforehand, and they said that his intention was creating a B Horror movie. If you watched the movie with the B Horror expectation, then its actually not a bad movie for what he was going for. A lot of people were hoping for another Sixth Sense type psychological thriller, but thats not what he was going for with that movie.

The Visit was also really good.


More directors need to declare their intention to make a terrible movie a couple of weeks before it comes out. Imagine the delight in the studio execs eyes when he screened it for them and said, don't worry, I made it really stupid on purpose!
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Signs is absolutely brilliant and his best movie. It's Night of the Living Dead with aliens. They're supposed to be mysterious, you're not supposed to know their motivations. The movie is from the POV of a family that has no idea what the **** is going on, not the US government.
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Will watch
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