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Oh, come on TexAgs, it's a picture of Barbara Bach.
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Finally found one that worked.
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Is that ***** galore?
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PipelineMoeNorman said:

Is that ***** galore?


No. The Russian agent from The Spy Who Loved Me. Anya Amasova

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maroon barchetta said:

PipelineMoeNorman said:

Is that ***** galore?


No. The Russian agent from The Spy Who Loved Me. Anya Amasova


More like Enya Asamora. AMIRIGHT?

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Macarthur
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Good question. I will try to take a look at what some of their contemporaries were doing.
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Threads like this make me miss FAST FRED. At one time he posted just facts on The Beatles on a similar discussion. They were inarguably the greatest. And Fred was a huge Stones guy. He would've ended this thread.
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HtownAg92 said:

maroon barchetta said:

PipelineMoeNorman said:

Is that ***** galore?


No. The Russian agent from The Spy Who Loved Me. Anya Amasova


More like Enya Asamora. AMIRIGHT?



AKA Agent XXX
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Ag 11 said:

Yeah they were good in the studio because Paul McCartney could go back & fix all the mistakes & he or anyone else could play the drums instead of freakin Ringo
Ringo is probably the most underrated drummer in history by people who aren't drummers.
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MAROON said:

Ag 11 said:

Yeah they were good in the studio because Paul McCartney could go back & fix all the mistakes & he or anyone else could play the drums instead of freakin Ringo
Ringo is probably the most underrated drummer in history by people who aren't drummers.
Back in the USSR is drummed by Paul and you can definitely tell the difference between Ringo (absolutely underrated) playing most any other Beatles song.
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Is it weird that their music is never played on the radio? Is their a studio agreement against that?

I'm late '40s and I'm not sure Ive ever heard a Beatles song on the radio. I've heard countless renditions of their songs by other bands but never the originals.
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Preety sure that every Beatles album went #1 in the 60s and early 70s.

When CDs became main stream in the late 1980s, they eventually released Beatles catalog. They were the highest selling cds.

When Beatles catalog finally became available on itunes, the Beatles were the most downloaded artist.

I pity people that don't get The Beatles.
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Big Al 1992 said:

Threads like this make me miss FAST FRED. At one time he posted just facts on The Beatles on a similar discussion. They were inarguably the greatest. And Fred was a huge Stones guy. He would've ended this thread.

Here are a few posts from him regarding the Beatles.


https://texags.com/forums/13/topics/1759765/replies/25462345

https://texags.com/forums/13/topics/2025978/replies/30084401
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YouBet said:

Is it weird that their music is never played on the radio? Is their a studio agreement against that?

I'm late '40s and I'm not sure Ive ever heard a Beatles song on the radio. I've heard countless renditions of their songs by other bands but never the originals.


Growing up, the oldies station out of San Antonio played them all the time. Classic rock stations play them too, Hey Jude, Come Together, revolution, and others
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TXAG 05 said:

YouBet said:

Is it weird that their music is never played on the radio? Is their a studio agreement against that?

I'm late '40s and I'm not sure Ive ever heard a Beatles song on the radio. I've heard countless renditions of their songs by other bands but never the originals.


Growing up, the oldies station out of San Antonio played them all the time. Classic rock stations play them too, Hey Jude, Come Together, revolution, and others
I see I've never heard them played on any classic rock station and would expect to. Must be genre specific classic rock stations.
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YouBet said:

TXAG 05 said:

YouBet said:

Is it weird that their music is never played on the radio? Is their a studio agreement against that?

I'm late '40s and I'm not sure Ive ever heard a Beatles song on the radio. I've heard countless renditions of their songs by other bands but never the originals.


Growing up, the oldies station out of San Antonio played them all the time. Classic rock stations play them too, Hey Jude, Come Together, revolution, and others
I see I've never heard them played on any classic rock station and would expect to. Must be genre specific classic rock stations.


I hear them on classic rock stations and the "oldies" station (which isn't really oldies). And as bumper music on the Chip Howard sports talk show every Friday.

Not sure what you are listening to.
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The Beatles are not as bad as they sound.
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maroon barchetta said:

YouBet said:

TXAG 05 said:

YouBet said:

Is it weird that their music is never played on the radio? Is their a studio agreement against that?

I'm late '40s and I'm not sure Ive ever heard a Beatles song on the radio. I've heard countless renditions of their songs by other bands but never the originals.


Growing up, the oldies station out of San Antonio played them all the time. Classic rock stations play them too, Hey Jude, Come Together, revolution, and others
I see I've never heard them played on any classic rock station and would expect to. Must be genre specific classic rock stations.


I hear them on classic rock stations and the "oldies" station (which isn't really oldies). And as bumper music on the Chip Howard sports talk show every Friday.

Not sure what you are listening to.
Nothing much anymore. Never in the car.
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I'll stream radio stations to my phone or laptop. That's how I'm getting them

Also I have a radio always on in the garage. When I'm doing chores in the garage I'll hear some radio
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Pretty weird that you never hear them on the radio that you don't listen to...
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boy09 said:

Pretty weird that you never hear them on the radio that you don't listen to...
Lately. I haven't been in the car much since Covid hit.
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Thanks for posting. Exactly what I'm talking about. FF was an incredible poster on here.
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DallasTeleAg said:

Never been a fan. Give me the Mighty Zep!
Best cover band there ever was!
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Thanks for posting those links! Here it is from the source himself:

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FAST FRED

"They had many of the same influences starting out.

They had different group interests, dynamics and talents and successfully went different directions.

But both bands rock.

Don't penalize The Beatles for offering much more than just their ability to rock.

In addition they could all sing, harmonize, swing, do ballads and show much more stylistic variation in their music.

That's why every Beatles' song wasn't a rocker.

Because they did more than rock.

And don't downgrade The Stones because they rock a greater percentage of the time.

Mick singing pretty and Keith doing harmony vocals isn't what they mainly offer.

Your choice of which band to listen to depends on your choice of which areas of your mind and/or body that you want to be rocked the most.



The Stones are essentially a Blues/Rock band that's made some sometimes successful side trips into Disco, Soul and Reggae Music.

For me, they are all about sex, the snare drum's backbeat and riffing, interplaying guitars plus a focal point lead singer.

Their best stuff always got my pr*ck hard and makes me want to scr*w.

The Beatles started out as a Pop/Rock cover band that greatly developed their vocal harmonies and song writing and then really showed their recording chops in the studio.

There was hardly any musical style from before or during their time together that they didn't utilize effectively.

Their music made me want to listen closely and then learn to play their songs.

Beatles' music can be sexy too, but I think there's more cerebral involvement available than The Stones ever try to provide.

I can still play maybe 150 Beatles' songs from memory on guitar, bass or piano and that's far more than I could from any other group.

And I could also, even now, sing along with every one of their songs without needing to see the words; yet, whenever I listen to a Beatles' album again, I'll always notice some musical item or nuance I'd missed before (or maybe just forgotten).

Their musical catalog, artistic achievement and ongoing influence is, IMHO, unsurpassed.

The Stones, IMO, don't have nearly as many memorable songs, but their good stuff ranks right up there with the Beatles' best.

If Mick or Keith called me to play bass on stage or in the studio with The Stones tomorrow, I could do it without any problem.

Just send me recordings of the songs for me to listen to on my way there.

If The Beatles had called me back in the day, to play bass for them (or with Wings while Paul played piano) I could do that too....but with just a little more rehearsal (to sing the backing vocal parts).

If you have the chops and know the songs, bass isn't that hard.

Think of Beatles' stuff as very often being more complex musically and the Stones' songs as usually being more simply based and always more repetitive.



I saw the Beatles live once and The Rolling Stones six times over four decades.

Lucky me.

I couldn't even hear the Fab Four over all the girls' screams.

They bowed in unison, wearing suits, after every song, played their set list of hits without improvisation and were done in 32 minutes.

And probably out of the building in 35.

The drums weren't miked at all and neither were the guitars except for bleed over from the two vocal mics out front.

Early concert sound systems sucked.

The first good integrated, well mixed Rock Concert sound I heard was at the Atlanta Pop Festival in 1969.

The Stones have never sounded as good live to me as their records did, even in the 90s.

If the Beatles toured with a good sound mix and auxiliary musicians now, they could sound as excellent as Paul McCartney & Wings or, say, The Eagles do live, doing perfect, even improved, versions of hit after hit after hit after hit after hit after hit.....

I think The Stones live shows have always been more about the crowd's enthusiasm for Mick and Keith's showmanship, rather than particularly great sound.

So, The Stones or The Beatles?

Take your pick, if you feel you must, but they both definitely can rock.

For rocking examples, check out the flashy to majestic sounding medley on side two of "Abbey Road" by The Beatles and "B*tch" from "Sticky Fingers" or the propulsive "Get Off Of My Cloud" and the bluesy "The Spider and the Fly" from earlier Stones' albums.











Gig 'em, FAST FRED '65.

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C@LAg said:

Stones are better.
You misspelled The Kinks.
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As far as touring goes, the Beatles gave that up because they couldn't even hear themselves as they sang. They got lost in songs because the fans were screaming so loudly. And it got so it wasn't safe for them.

I have no technical knowledge of music at all, but let me just say this as a 72-year-old who was entranced by their sound when I first heard a film clip of "She Loves You" played in Dec. 1963 (as I remember it) on the Jack Paar show:

When I was growing up, we didn't have tablets or I pods or Walkmen or computer games or laptops or any electronics, really. But we had some great, great music. And the music was the Beatles.
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YouBet said:

TXAG 05 said:

YouBet said:

Is it weird that their music is never played on the radio? Is their a studio agreement against that?

I'm late '40s and I'm not sure Ive ever heard a Beatles song on the radio. I've heard countless renditions of their songs by other bands but never the originals.


Growing up, the oldies station out of San Antonio played them all the time. Classic rock stations play them too, Hey Jude, Come Together, revolution, and others
I see I've never heard them played on any classic rock station and would expect to. Must be genre specific classic rock stations.

They get played in 99.5 in college station. Not as often as Boston though.. well that is unfair since that station plays at least one Boston song every hour
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Everyone should listen to 1 down 3 to go by The Meatmen
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91_Aggie said:

YouBet said:

TXAG 05 said:

YouBet said:

Is it weird that their music is never played on the radio? Is their a studio agreement against that?

I'm late '40s and I'm not sure Ive ever heard a Beatles song on the radio. I've heard countless renditions of their songs by other bands but never the originals.


Growing up, the oldies station out of San Antonio played them all the time. Classic rock stations play them too, Hey Jude, Come Together, revolution, and others
I see I've never heard them played on any classic rock station and would expect to. Must be genre specific classic rock stations.

They get played in 99.5 in college station. Not as often as Boston though.. well that is unfair since that station plays at least one Boston song every hour


I'll see your Boston and raise you a Fear The Reaper!
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They have their own channel on Sirius XM
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LOL!
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CoolaidWade said:

Worst band ever.


These threads are always a great spreadsheet updater for people whose opinions you should ignore moving forward.

And I'm not even a big Beatles guy but this is absolute nonsense and you should never comment on any music topic again.
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Fogburn95 said:

oragator said:

Yeah, I guess moving over a billion units makes you overrated, as does selling 177 million more units than any band ever in the US ever has, 20 number one hits (a record), and McCartney is the richest pure musician ever.
But outside of that, yeah they're the suck.


You sound kind of like a sip defending them as the biggest brand of all time in college football because they generate the most revenue.


What a bizarre point.
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aTmAg said:

Pretty much every musician is overrated. They don't "move mountains" or "start revolutions" or any of that crap. In fact, much of the influence they do have over has been negative. Whether it be rap "artists" glorifying gang life, rock bands glorifying drugs, Madonna types selling ****iness, etc. These musicians laugh their way to the bank while many of the kids they influence screw over their lives. It's almost as bad as drug pushers. In hindsight, nothing is more pathetic than 25-45 year olds singing about smoking in the boys room at school, even though I liked it as a kid

Like I've said before, all they do is vibrate air. Maybe guys like Beethoven were geniuses, but that's about it.

Ib4: old man shakes fist at clouds


You sound really fun.
 
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