Case by case. And if I am being honest, it is a sliding scale based on how much I like their work.

Steve Earle could kill a family of 10 after making the children eat the bodies of their parents and I would think "well at least they didn't suffer long."

It could come out that walker Hayes forgot to hold the door open for a stranger and I would call for him to be removed from radio and chased out of the country.

For me it depends a bit on whether the art is solely tied to that individual vs part of a collective effort. For example, Ryan Adams I can not listen to anymore. Him being such a horrible person has ruined his music for me. But something like Buffy or Firefly, I can still watch. I'm no longer a Joss fan at all, but so many other people worked so hard on those projects and contributed to their greatness. I can still appreciate that and separate that art from the artist/creator.

So….it depends?

I agree with DI it's a sliding scale to my chagrin.

From all accounts from friends in the entertainment community, Don Knotts was a class act.
And i'm at peace with that

Some of it depends on if my enjoying their work is putting money in their pocket or not.

For the most part. I love Rage Against The Machine, but politically Zach de la Rocha and Tom Morello are on a very different wavelength than I am. I don't let that ruin their music for me. Most people in Hollywood are so left of center that I can't understand how their brains work, but I don't let their politics ruin a good movie or TV show for me.

But those are ideological differences only, on the other hand there are actions that cross the line that can be really hard to grapple with. I don't think I've watched anything involving Bryan Singer or Kevin Spacey since the allegations about each of them have come out. The Bryan Singer stuff is bad enough that I haven't watched the original X-Men or X2, and I loved those movies. Also haven't watched The Usual Suspects in I don't know how long, Singer directed that one too, and Spacey was in it. I haven't rewatched any of House of Cards from the early days, or watched any of it after he was gone, that show was great at the beginning.

I definitely don't let politics ruin my enjoyment of an artist.

Them being an awful person does though for sure though.

I also loved Ryan Adams but interestingly I was done with him before the whole treating women poorly thing came out. I had seen him several times live and he was always such a ***** I just couldn't take it. I was actually relieved when the rest of the world also started seeing him as a *****.

So that is what Copperhead Road is about…

The problem with Isbell is that the more woke he gets the worse his music gets.

I can deal with the wokeness as long as doesn't affect the music.

Funny story about Isbell...My cousin went to Memphis a couple months ago to catch his show. Of course had to chow vax status and mask up during the show. Next day he announced he got COVID and had to cancel shows. Idiot

I generally separate the art from the artist by paying absolutely zero attention to their personal lives, politics, or anything about them really.

Although even if you take ignorance out of the equation and I found out JK Rowling, Sanderson, and Jim Butcher collectively murdered hundreds of people I can't say I would stop loving their books.

I'm sure a lot of the music I listen to is made by questionable people but whatever.

Yep, Michael Jackson fan here too. Not real keen on the kid diddling, but man, dude was talented.

I can handle differences in ideology or politics 100%. But when a f-ing actor comes out preaching politics or ranting on how "racist, bigoted, stupid" etc. many of my friends and family are for voting for the "wrong guy" or for differing ideologically…they are dead to me.

If the only art the world had was from good people, the world would be a miserable place.

It depends. If I only watched actors whose values aligned with mine I would be left with Kevin Sorbo, Dean Cain, Jon Voight, and Kirk Cameron.

NoahAg said:

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It depends. If I only watched actors whose values aligned with mine I would be left with Kevin Sorbo, Dean Cain, Jon Voight, and Kirk Cameron.

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That would make a really weird Growing Pains.

Bill Cosby was really tough for me. I was growing up when he was really starting to become successful with his comedy albums and I Spy. Saw him live a couple of times. Owned every album he put out. He was really one of my favorite human beings.

Now, I feel guilty listening to his stuff.

I can forgive a lot of personal shortcomings, breaches of law or personal conduct, and even in some cases outrageous abuses, but if an artist appears to disagree with any of my nuanced political or societal stances I am absolutely done with them. My favorite spotify playlist currently has three tracks left on it.

An added thought in seriousness. A quick study of history's greatest artists from the dawn of civilization to now seems to show that A LOT of very creative and talented people are also not what would be considered conventional, wholesome, upstanding human beings. I'd say more often than not the most creative, quality material comes from pretty tortured, conflicted souls. It's part of why I admire the creation itself and don't often lionize the artist, because seldomly have they earned that. Rather than being surprised that my favorite artists turn out to be some form of wacky, I'm surprised if any of them in reality are decent people at heart. I think there's a reason your favorite songwriter of all time is probably a ******* and the guy playing open mic night at the neighborhood bar and being ignored by everyone there while they eat is a good dude with a wife and kids.

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Interesting topic. I try to separate the art and the artist as much as possible. I love Picasso's art and Hemingway's writing while recognizing that they were complete **** as human beings. From an entertainment standpoint, I have a hard time with anything involving Cosby or Michael Jackson, despite how much I loved them as a kid. And as much as I enjoyed watching Ovechkin play hockey, his Putin support has always bothered me, and I'm just flat out done with him at this point. Curt Schilling fleecing RI out of millions and being completely unapologetic about it also flipped my opinion on him.

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Not to necessarily rub salt in the Curt Schilling wound, but being in the industry and knowing a couple of people who were part of the studio, it's worse when you consider the people involved there. Video games tends to be an industry where people move around a lot because studios tend to ramp up during projects. Their studio, being not in a place with a lot of other studios, brought people and their families in with promises of long term projects and stability. So when they went under, it was not only screwing the state out of money, but it basically left a lot of people with specialized skills stranded without a job in a place without other options. So a lot of folks were stranded after everything went down, which in my mind just really makes it exponentially worse when he's unapologetic about it.