I went to the thing he did at Rudder in early 2013. They let us watch the third season premier 9 days before it aired on HBO. When it was time for Q&A, someone yelled out FINISH THE DAMN BOOK ALREADY!David Wallace said:
I just want George R.R.R.R.R.R.R. Martin to finish writing the damn books. Just mind boggling that he still hasn't done it.
David Wallace said:
I just want George R.R.R.R.R.R.R. Martin to finish writing the damn books. Just mind boggling that he still hasn't done it.
Yeah, during the show run, my brother and I used to joke about how much baloney he has to slice before he even gets close to the end.canadiaggie said:David Wallace said:
I just want George R.R.R.R.R.R.R. Martin to finish writing the damn books. Just mind boggling that he still hasn't done it.
Unfortunately it's pretty obvious he's written himself into a corner, knows everyone hates the King Bran ending, and has way too many plot threads to wrap up
While some might be because they don't know better, in going to give a little slack thanks to Will Ferrell in Blades of Glory.PatAg said:Random tangent, i have seen an uptick in people writing "mind bottling" and it is infuriating.David Wallace said:
I just want George R.R.R.R.R.R.R. Martin to finish writing the damn books. Just mind boggling that he still hasn't done it.
He also has to dispose of these tangents that never made the show:helloimustbegoing said:Yeah, during the show run, my brother and I used to joke about how much baloney he has to slice before he even gets close to the end.canadiaggie said:David Wallace said:
I just want George R.R.R.R.R.R.R. Martin to finish writing the damn books. Just mind boggling that he still hasn't done it.
Unfortunately it's pretty obvious he's written himself into a corner, knows everyone hates the King Bran ending, and has way too many plot threads to wrap up
Characters still alive in the book-verse include
Stannis
Ramsey and Roose Bolton
Barristan Selmy
Margarey, Loras, Mace, and Olenna Tyrell
Basically everybody in Dorne outside of Mando
Fake Aegon Targaryen who never made the show
helloimustbegoing said:Yeah, during the show run, my brother and I used to joke about how much baloney he has to slice before he even gets close to the end.canadiaggie said:David Wallace said:
I just want George R.R.R.R.R.R.R. Martin to finish writing the damn books. Just mind boggling that he still hasn't done it.
Unfortunately it's pretty obvious he's written himself into a corner, knows everyone hates the King Bran ending, and has way too many plot threads to wrap up
Characters still alive in the book-verse include
Stannis
Ramsey and Roose Bolton
Barristan Selmy
Margarey, Loras, Mace, and Olenna Tyrell
Basically everybody in Dorne outside of Mando
Fake Aegon Targaryen who never made the show
George R.R. Martin confirms he is involved in the ‘GAME OF THRONES’ sequel series, under the working title ‘SNOW’.
— DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) June 23, 2022
He confirms Kit Harington will return as Jon Snow and that Kit brought the idea to him and HBO with his own writing team.
(Source: https://t.co/2MjEVwxM33) pic.twitter.com/W2WcStjZhy
https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/2022/06/23/snow-and-other-stuff/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitterYNWA_AG said:George R.R. Martin confirms he is involved in the ‘GAME OF THRONES’ sequel series, under the working title ‘SNOW’.
— DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) June 23, 2022
He confirms Kit Harington will return as Jon Snow and that Kit brought the idea to him and HBO with his own writing team.
(Source: https://t.co/2MjEVwxM33) pic.twitter.com/W2WcStjZhy
I'll take a one-off Cinemax movie about the book relationship between Cersei and Taena Merryweather.canadiaggie said:helloimustbegoing said:Yeah, during the show run, my brother and I used to joke about how much baloney he has to slice before he even gets close to the end.canadiaggie said:David Wallace said:
I just want George R.R.R.R.R.R.R. Martin to finish writing the damn books. Just mind boggling that he still hasn't done it.
Unfortunately it's pretty obvious he's written himself into a corner, knows everyone hates the King Bran ending, and has way too many plot threads to wrap up
Characters still alive in the book-verse include
Stannis
Ramsey and Roose Bolton
Barristan Selmy
Margarey, Loras, Mace, and Olenna Tyrell
Basically everybody in Dorne outside of Mando
Fake Aegon Targaryen who never made the show
Even worse than Stannis are all the people who should have been in Season 5 - then it really hits how much GURM has to wrap up. All the Baratheon hangers-on, Mance/Rattleshirt, Rickon is still alive, Jeyne freaking Westerling, Fake Arya/Jeyne, Val who never made the show (but I am convinced will play a role in this spinoff as Jon's love interest if it ever gets made), a bunch of useless Dothraki because who knows when Dany will sail West, Alleras, etc etc etc
HtownAg92 said:I'll take a one-off Cinemax movie about the book relationship between Cersei and Taena Merryweather.canadiaggie said:helloimustbegoing said:Yeah, during the show run, my brother and I used to joke about how much baloney he has to slice before he even gets close to the end.canadiaggie said:David Wallace said:
I just want George R.R.R.R.R.R.R. Martin to finish writing the damn books. Just mind boggling that he still hasn't done it.
Unfortunately it's pretty obvious he's written himself into a corner, knows everyone hates the King Bran ending, and has way too many plot threads to wrap up
Characters still alive in the book-verse include
Stannis
Ramsey and Roose Bolton
Barristan Selmy
Margarey, Loras, Mace, and Olenna Tyrell
Basically everybody in Dorne outside of Mando
Fake Aegon Targaryen who never made the show
Even worse than Stannis are all the people who should have been in Season 5 - then it really hits how much GURM has to wrap up. All the Baratheon hangers-on, Mance/Rattleshirt, Rickon is still alive, Jeyne freaking Westerling, Fake Arya/Jeyne, Val who never made the show (but I am convinced will play a role in this spinoff as Jon's love interest if it ever gets made), a bunch of useless Dothraki because who knows when Dany will sail West, Alleras, etc etc etc
If you look at him throughout his career, he's never been lazy. One of the ongoing themes during the wait for ADWD was that he was always releasing a new anthology (Wild Cards in particular) or going to another con.redline248 said:
I think it's less painted into a corner and more he's fat and lazy and content with all the money he has. He's not going to finish
Other Title suggestionsThe Dog Lord said:
The working title has me wondering what the series might be called. The story itself could play into it, but something general could work.
King Beyond the Wall
Beyond the Wall
The White Wolf
The Last Dragon
Lord Snow
Aunt ****er
No matter what, I hope we get a cheesy voiceover to start "I'm Jon Snow. Turns out I did want it. I'm off to kill my cousins now and reclaim what's mine. There's sure to be some wacky things along the way, but things usually works out for me." [big thumbs up and grin staring into the camera]
In the absence of the White Walkers, the ice and snow in the north begins to melt due to climate change revealing a warm and stable land of plenty. However, the ice melt causes the seas to rise and submerge King's Landing. King Bran declares all of the people from the lands south of The Wall must now try to migrate north. In a ironic role-reversal, Jon must unite the wildlings and The Night's Watch to stand against King Bran's invaders from the South!Madmarttigan said:
Apathy level is pretty high but Jon doesn't make sense. There is literally nothing alive north of the wall to even be a threat for likely decades or even centuries if people migrate back up there.
Introducing the white walkers again would just negate everything that has already happened.
What is the conflict supposed to be?
Also, wasn't there supposed to be an Arya spin off that would make WAY more sense and I guess was cancelled?
The nerf to Bran is that he just doesn't gaf about what is going on with everyday life.canadiaggie said:
If the show has him in it, they've gotta nerf Bran somehow
I remember reading a blog of his, before the show was even a thing I think, that he basically was trying to figure out an adequate way to get from where the last book left off to the next big plot point he had in mind.bluefire579 said:If you look at him throughout his career, he's never been lazy. One of the ongoing themes during the wait for ADWD was that he was always releasing a new anthology (Wild Cards in particular) or going to another con.redline248 said:
I think it's less painted into a corner and more he's fat and lazy and content with all the money he has. He's not going to finish
I think it's one of two things:
- He's burned out. GRRM has never completed anything so broad as this. Tuf Voyaging is probably closest, but that was much more episodic.
- He has anxiety about making the last two books absolutely perfect, which has been compounded by the show's popularity and the reaction to the ending.
My guess is the second one, considering the work on this show, producing the other HBO show, and the additional works he's put out in the universe since ADWD was released.
