I really liked it. Not as clever as the filmmakers probably think it is, but definitely not as dumb/dense as some of the posters think it is. I always like watching movies where the cast/crew seem to be having a blast making the movie. Reminds me a lot of the Oceans movies.
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First one was better, but the whole "too clever" thing... I wonder how many of you would have thought 'Clue' was too clever. It's the entire point of the genre.
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I really liked it. Not as clever as the filmmakers probably think it is, but definitely not as dumb/dense as some of the posters think it is. I always like watching movies where the cast/crew seem to be having a blast making the movie. Reminds me a lot of the Oceans movies.
I agree with this. It smelled its own farts a bit but I thought it was unique enough from the first one that it stood on its own.
I could rewatch both without hesitation for different reasons.
I think a movie that's an original piece of work and not a retread/remake/reboot should be graded on a curve. I wish more filmmakers would go this route instead of the brain dead blockbuster crap.
And yes, I'm well aware that Rian directed The Last Jedi but at least the bulk of his work is original stuff starting with Brick and The Brothers Bloom.
And yes, I'm well aware that Rian directed The Last Jedi but at least the bulk of his work is original stuff starting with Brick and The Brothers Bloom.
He also directed Fly and Ozymandias from Breaking Bad (the lowest and highest rated episodes).
I really enjoyed this movie. However, one thing that stuck out to me was Miles' lack of comprehension that Helen and Benoit were together.
Like, you know that you killed Andi, so this must be her sister, and there's no way that the best detective in the world just happened to receive your invitation box. How would he not pick up on that? I mean, he IS an idiot, and the movie plays that up, but that seems REALLY dumb. The fact that Miles actually asked Benoit what he was doing there makes it all the more weird and hilarious to me.
Like, you know that you killed Andi, so this must be her sister, and there's no way that the best detective in the world just happened to receive your invitation box. How would he not pick up on that? I mean, he IS an idiot, and the movie plays that up, but that seems REALLY dumb. The fact that Miles actually asked Benoit what he was doing there makes it all the more weird and hilarious to me.
Movie was fantastic, it's like Agatha Christie, Arrested Development and Wes Anderson had a baby. I loved this movie more than the first. 10/10 will watch again.
I'm not sure Miles knew he'd killed Andi. He knew he'd tried to poison her with sleeping pills and she was out when he left, but there'd been zero news reports confirming her death until the night of the party. When she showed up, he might have thought "oh crap, I didn't give her enough! Does she know I tried to kill her? Or does she just think she fell asleep? This is awkward."
Thanks and gig'em
We watched this last night. It was good but it was largely predictable. There were not as many clever twists as in Knives Out, and there was way too much explanation too early in the movie.
Enjoyed it but some of the criticisms here are very valid, its not one to think too much about…and that sort of goes against the point.
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I'm not sure Miles knew he'd killed Andi. He knew he'd tried to poison her with sleeping pills and she was out when he left, but there'd been zero news reports confirming her death until the night of the party. When she showed up, he might have thought "oh crap, I didn't give her enough! Does she know I tried to kill her? Or does she just think she fell asleep? This is awkward."
I didn't consider this point. And now I'm thinking about it,I think Benoit even said something to this effect when he met Helen. That he thought the killer would see he didn't finish the job and would try again. I guess I missed that plot point entirely. Thanks for helping me wrap my head around it.
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It was a cringey scene in a mediocre movie. Not worth arguing about.
Glad you liked it
It was a pretty great takedown of a woke politician only wearing a mask because their constituents would go bat**** if she didn't. And she didn't even wear it right
I liked Glass Onion, but for murder mysteries this year, I thought Confess, Fletch was better and a lot more fun.
Anyone seen the movie Murder Mystery on Netflix with Adam Sandler, Jennifer Aniston and Luke Evans?
3 pages in and nobody is talking about how strangely hot Kathryn Hahn is?
I enjoyed this one. I didn't really like the first one. #1 had a lot of entertaining window-dressing for what was essentially a pretty straightforward movie, that also shows you the murder right away, so it's just a matter of who switched the bottles. You think it's Chris Evans, then someone you don't care about at all dies, then they act like it's not Chris Evans, but then it's Chris Evans. Great. This one had a lot of entertaining window-dressing to distract you from what was right in front of you, which was at least the stated point multiple times in the film (it's right in front of us all). So while they're similar, I thought this one was more what it claimed to be, whereas the first one felt like much ado about nothing IMO. Maybe controversial.
Thought this was a good way to spend a Tuesday night at home.
I enjoyed this one. I didn't really like the first one. #1 had a lot of entertaining window-dressing for what was essentially a pretty straightforward movie, that also shows you the murder right away, so it's just a matter of who switched the bottles. You think it's Chris Evans, then someone you don't care about at all dies, then they act like it's not Chris Evans, but then it's Chris Evans. Great. This one had a lot of entertaining window-dressing to distract you from what was right in front of you, which was at least the stated point multiple times in the film (it's right in front of us all). So while they're similar, I thought this one was more what it claimed to be, whereas the first one felt like much ado about nothing IMO. Maybe controversial.
Thought this was a good way to spend a Tuesday night at home.
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It was a cringey scene in a mediocre movie. Not worth arguing about.
Glad you liked it
It was a pretty great takedown of a woke politician only wearing a mask because their constituents would go bat**** if she didn't. And she didn't even wear it right
I took the "magic" anti-COVID thing to be a play on the wealthy having something that the masses don't have, as well.
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She was literally the least hottest chick in the movie. She barely beats out Angela Lansbury (RIP).
The WandaVision thread would have my back…
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3 pages in and nobody is talking about how strangely hot Kathryn Hahn is?
i guess there is someone for everyone...
but seriously, dude... the whole point of that character was that she was not 'hot' at all....
first, i had to look up who you were talking about, then i had to come back and make sure you actually typed that...
and here we are, LOL.
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She was literally the least hottest chick in the movie. She barely beats out Angela Lansbury (RIP).
Janelle Monae is, hands down, followed by Jessica Henwick. Madelyn Cline is attractive for sure but not my type
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Yep. This is my top 3 in order. Kate Hudson is still fine AF and gets honorable mention.
I really think a lot of folks are kind of missing the joke. Hell, the entire song "Glass Onion" was a parody song written by John Lennon specifically to make fun of Beatles songs and people trying to read genius and meaning into the lyrics. It's almost like these movies are entirely to make fun of people who try and read meaning and cleverness into what happens in a movie...
That's the best part of the whole movie in retrospect. When they role up on the beach, Miles is playing "Blackbird" by the Beatles, and Birdie is all "you're playing my song!" and Miles makes a joke about it being Paul McCartney's actual guitar.
Well, the joke you get at the end of the movie is that all of these people are vapid and they see meaning where there isn't any, but they miss it where it actually is. Unlike "Glass Onion", "Blackbird" actually is a song with subtlety and meaning behind it. It's about the civil rights movement. But they don't understand that. To them, it's a song about birds and she's Birdie and it's cute.
That's the best part of the whole movie in retrospect. When they role up on the beach, Miles is playing "Blackbird" by the Beatles, and Birdie is all "you're playing my song!" and Miles makes a joke about it being Paul McCartney's actual guitar.
Well, the joke you get at the end of the movie is that all of these people are vapid and they see meaning where there isn't any, but they miss it where it actually is. Unlike "Glass Onion", "Blackbird" actually is a song with subtlety and meaning behind it. It's about the civil rights movement. But they don't understand that. To them, it's a song about birds and she's Birdie and it's cute.
My wife and I solved Glass Onion immediately after the first murder. We both picked up on the story Ed Norton told was different than what we saw on the drink switch. We waited for the next hour for the big reveal at that point.Brian Earl Spilner said:The Milkman said:
We watched it last night as well. Thought it was just ok and I loved knives out. I felt like there weren't really the twists and turns like knives out had.
Honestly I thought even the first one needed more twists and turns. You pretty much know everything by about the halfway point and the rest of the movie felt like just going through the motions.
i felt like i was really enjoying the whole setup of the movie, but yes, once it started backtracking it struggled and then the ending was a bit of a let down.
still fun.
and i am way too tired and worn out from serious full tilt strategerizing at work to pick up on all that deep thought that may or may not have been intentional in some of that stuff
still fun.
and i am way too tired and worn out from serious full tilt strategerizing at work to pick up on all that deep thought that may or may not have been intentional in some of that stuff
Well Birdie is comparable to Harriet Tubman (in spirit) so maybe there is a deeper meaning.MW03 said:
I really think a lot of folks are kind of missing the joke. Hell, the entire song "Glass Onion" was a parody song written by John Lennon specifically to make fun of Beatles songs and people trying to read genius and meaning into the lyrics. It's almost like these movies are entirely to make fun of people who try and read meaning and cleverness into what happens in a movie...
That's the best part of the whole movie in retrospect. When they role up on the beach, Miles is playing "Blackbird" by the Beatles, and Birdie is all "you're playing my song!" and Miles makes a joke about it being Paul McCartney's actual guitar.
Well, the joke you get at the end of the movie is that all of these people are vapid and they see meaning where there isn't any, but they miss it where it actually is. Unlike "Glass Onion", "Blackbird" actually is a song with subtlety and meaning behind it. It's about the civil rights movement. But they don't understand that. To them, it's a song about birds and she's Birdie and it's cute.
I did say "strangely hot," not unquestionably hot.
Back to the actual movie and not the Hahn fetish hour but I just listened to The Big Picture with Sean Fennessey and he had an interesting take on the ending with the destruction of the Mona Lisa and how it was basically Rian giving a big FU to Netflix and the global tech world who has ruined the traditional movie experience at a theater where now it's all streaming services. Kind of a stretch but I see his point.
OK, back to the Hahn show.
OK, back to the Hahn show.
I caught that too, but I thought it was a sign Norton had called everyone to the island to kill them, as they all were threats / dangerous to him, and he was going to somehow make it look like each death was an attempt on his life that missed and killed someone else.
Thanks and gig'em
Just realized Darryl (the dude who is just randomly walking around the island) is Trooper Wagner from Knives Out, or at least the same actor (who apparently Rian likes to put in his movies).
That's the movie I thought I was watching as well. Seemed well set up for Norton's character to start picking them off.
Was a good movie but not even close to the first one, so I wonder how much Twitter shills get paid and how can I get in on that sweet moolah.
Murder on the Orient Express and Murder Mystery (Adam Sandler movie) are better than Glass Onion.
And losing…haha.BadMoonRisin said:
You didnt like James Bond playing Among Us with other old people on skype in the bathtub during "lockdown"?
What's wrong with you.
I've seen Murder on the Orient Express and liked it, I'll check out the other.lethalninja said:
Murder on the Orient Express and Murder Mystery (Adam Sandler movie) are better than Glass Onion.
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