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Agador Spartacus
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I watched the entire Rogan interview with Tim Burchett over the weekend with an open mind. Two takeaways :

1. I think he is being honest and forthcoming. In my opinion he was being completely sincere and wasn't really holding anything back.

2. I don't think he knows that much more than anyone else on this thread. The stuff that he has heard behind closed doors is more of the same of what we have heard in the public.

Add to that a couple dumb statements like "there is a moon of Saturn or Jupiter that is bigger than Earth" and I was disappointed in his appearance overall - I don't think we'll be getting any answers of substance from that committee. If anything, I think he is someone that has had a similar mindset to many on this thread and he's in a position to be able to push to get videos released, etc.
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This is a detailed first hand account of abductions with multiple witnesses, over decades.

Assume they are lying (I don't think they are)

How can we account for so many subjectively experienced ….similarities, across time and environment, for nearly a century? When does personal accounts become useful data?

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I think it's pretty obvious that Burchett is just latching on to this and realized he can say anything he wants and never risk being fact checked, so he's just enjoying getting himself on tv constantly. I don't think he's really said anything that pushes things forward. There's no way for him to be proven wrong. It's a wonderful spot to be in in. You get to act like you know stuff that no one else knows, and there's no limit to the amount of vague things you can say. And then you never have to say anything that risks getting proven wrong because you just say the details are classified.
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This. I like Burchett and what he stands for politically and philosophically, but on the alien stuff he talks a whole lot without really saying anything.
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One of the more unusual videos I have seen. Released today by Ukrainian government. Very intriguing but have zero sense of scale on this one.

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I'll believe it when I see it…

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Fox has talked about Ms. Aldrin for years, consistently, and they had multiple meetings. The moon landing mystery is solved. And I absolutely believe our Japanese friend about humans being warned off.

Review that Alberino interview with the brothers I posted today. It fits. We are cattle and the battle is spiritual.
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TRANSLATION:
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Chief Cabinet Secretary Kihara Confirms U.S.-Released "UAP Footage Around Japan"

Regarding the unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP) materials released by the U.S. Department of Defense, Chief Cabinet Secretary Kihara mentioned at today's press conference that "I have confirmed the footage." On the Japanese government's information disclosure, he stated that it would be "judged on a case-by-case basis" while taking security considerations into account.
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A follow up regarding subjective experiences pointing to objective realities. Another set of brothers, with a consistent story. Pair with the Alberino interview I posted yesterday.

Also an example of why Disclosure is a process, and can never be "full."

How could such a program - mass abductions and breeding, humans as cattle - be explained? We are likely to never go beyond these stories in our lifetime. AND a president can take the podium.

Are the thousands of people who have told quite similar stories, for decades, with implants and other physical proofs, part of mass hysteria?

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Gerb and friends deliver once again.

David A. Kozik

https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMw_885dfacf-a1f5-4f58-97d5-e15229844af2

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There is one universe, and by sin we are deformed.

This universe has that which is -meta, or beyond, our stunted understanding of time, height, width, length.

A metaphysic centered in, ordered by, the Logos of John 1 - a personal Spirit that appeared in many times, in many places, in many forms.

Some selected Alberino quotes from a publication with an annoying website (Relevant)

I plug his book, Birthright.

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The word demon does not suffice to explain the phenomenon. It has no explanatory power when you're dealing with nuts and bolts craft and you're dealing with biological bodies.


Christians already believe in intelligent beings who are not human and do not originate from Earth. Scripture calls them angels, heavenly beings, sons of God and hosts of heaven. Modern culture might use different language, but the underlying idea is not new to Christianity.

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The Bible unapologetically introduces us to a race of beings who are not human and not from planet Earth.


He argues many believers are unprepared, largely because later Christian tradition trained them to imagine heaven and heavenly beings as purely disembodied and immaterial.

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The idea that angels and angelic beings and heavenly beings in general, and heaven, is a strictly disembodied spiritual place that was not the idea of the early church.


In Scripture, encounters with heavenly beings are often physical. Abraham prepares food for his visitors. Lot hosts them in his home. Elijah is taken up in what the text describes as a chariot of fire. Alberino believes those passages should not be flattened into metaphor simply because modern readers are uncomfortable with their implications.

His point is not to turn the Bible into a UFO manual. His point is that the biblical world is already more complex, more physical and more populated than many Christians assume. Scripture presents a universe filled with created beings, some loyal to God, some opposed to him and all ultimately under the authority of Christ.

...extraterrestrial life would not dethrone humanity because humanity was never meant to sit at the center of the story.

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The biblical worldview is the Christocentric paradigm. Christ, the Son of God, is at the center of the universe. The universe belongs to him.


A Christ-centered framework changes the stakes. The existence of other beings would not shrink humanity's value or rewrite the Gospel. It would simply expand the scope of creation.

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Our place in the universe is not affected whatsoever by the disclosure of extraterrestrial beings.


Encounters with nonhuman beings in the Bible rarely begin with explanation. They begin with reassurance.
Fear not.

Christians do not need to panic if the universe turns out to be more populated than expected. The Gospel does not hinge on human exclusivity. The mission does not shift. Christ remains central. Humanity remains loved.

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I just think it's time for Christians to grow up if we're going to comprehend the reality that's in front of us.

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FoxNews has a exclusive interview with Rubio on tonight. Its all about China and what they plan to discuss with them on this trip. Rubio mentions about planning discussions with China about many things that are sensitive and will be kept out/not announced to the Press. Since this is Rubio and we know of his involvement with disclosure, I think they are going to talk to the Chinese about UAPs and see what they know and perhaps build a working relationship together on further UAP discovery.
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Rubio is 100% read in and knows everything "known" at this point in time.
watty
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Redstone said:

There is one universe, and by sin we are deformed.

This universe has that which is -meta, or beyond, our stunted understanding of time, height, width, length.

A metaphysic centered in, ordered by, the Logos of John 1 - a personal Spirit that appeared in many times, in many places, in many forms.

Some selected Alberino quotes from a publication with an annoying website (Relevant)

I plug his book, Birthright.

Quote:

The word demon does not suffice to explain the phenomenon. It has no explanatory power when you're dealing with nuts and bolts craft and you're dealing with biological bodies.


Christians already believe in intelligent beings who are not human and do not originate from Earth. Scripture calls them angels, heavenly beings, sons of God and hosts of heaven. Modern culture might use different language, but the underlying idea is not new to Christianity.

Quote:

The Bible unapologetically introduces us to a race of beings who are not human and not from planet Earth.


He argues many believers are unprepared, largely because later Christian tradition trained them to imagine heaven and heavenly beings as purely disembodied and immaterial.

Quote:

The idea that angels and angelic beings and heavenly beings in general, and heaven, is a strictly disembodied spiritual place that was not the idea of the early church.


In Scripture, encounters with heavenly beings are often physical. Abraham prepares food for his visitors. Lot hosts them in his home. Elijah is taken up in what the text describes as a chariot of fire. Alberino believes those passages should not be flattened into metaphor simply because modern readers are uncomfortable with their implications.

His point is not to turn the Bible into a UFO manual. His point is that the biblical world is already more complex, more physical and more populated than many Christians assume. Scripture presents a universe filled with created beings, some loyal to God, some opposed to him and all ultimately under the authority of Christ.

...extraterrestrial life would not dethrone humanity because humanity was never meant to sit at the center of the story.

Quote:

The biblical worldview is the Christocentric paradigm. Christ, the Son of God, is at the center of the universe. The universe belongs to him.


A Christ-centered framework changes the stakes. The existence of other beings would not shrink humanity's value or rewrite the Gospel. It would simply expand the scope of creation.

Quote:

Our place in the universe is not affected whatsoever by the disclosure of extraterrestrial beings.


Encounters with nonhuman beings in the Bible rarely begin with explanation. They begin with reassurance.
Fear not.

Christians do not need to panic if the universe turns out to be more populated than expected. The Gospel does not hinge on human exclusivity. The mission does not shift. Christ remains central. Humanity remains loved.

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I just think it's time for Christians to grow up if we're going to comprehend the reality that's in front of us.




As a Christian I agree with a lot of that. However, what doesn't add up us why angels or demons suddenly need to fly around in physical crafts. I do believe that angels and demons still work in our world - the world we live in now is the same world people lived in thousands of years ago - but nothing would suggest to me the need for them to start flying in saucers all of a sudden.
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Have to be very precise with language here. Angel and Demon were narrow terms for 2nd Temple era scribes, compilers, editors. Heiser and updated Unseen Realm a really good reference.

This is distinct from Angel-ic and Demon-ic.

From there, ANY extraterrestrial being ("demons" of the earth, btw) could well be using technology.
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Example:

Gary Stearman, pilot, encounter …. a humorous NHI beamed into his head a tour guide voice saying, look to this direction, you will see a UFO.

His life was saved and the furious ground crew was astonished he didn't die. With missing time (IMO, manipulated space / time bubble as he was escorted)

Angel? Don't know. Angel-ic? Yes.
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