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Madmarttigan said:

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I don't think I can survive without it with a 3 year old and another on the way

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It's tough man. I hate Disney with a passion but she loves Moana (so do I) and Frozen. Lion King too. So we have it.

I'd like to find a way to pirate it but I'm not too tech savvy.

I didn't realize the cricket deal was 100% responsible for the dip in subscribers. My bad

TCTTS calling me "deranged" is funny though. He is very rattled.

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You're a grown man who "hates" a company "with a passion" that makes entertainment for children. That you even state this aloud, much less choose to make it part of your identity, only proves my point.

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I hate wokeness and anyone who peddles it to children. That that bothers you tells me a lot about you. We are from different worlds.

I simply want my child to have an upbringing somewhat recognizable to mine in the 80's and 90's. Sick of the psychotic LGBTQ and race baiting from all angles. I don't want her thinking she's inferior or has a higher hill to climb because she's not white.

If any of it were *actually* harmful, or *actually* affecting kids negatively, in any real way, I too would be concerned. But it's not, so I'm not. It's a problem only to those who choose to make it one.

TCTTS said:

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Brittmoore Car Club said:

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Madmarttigan said:

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I don't think I can survive without it with a 3 year old and another on the way

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It's tough man. I hate Disney with a passion but she loves Moana (so do I) and Frozen. Lion King too. So we have it.

I'd like to find a way to pirate it but I'm not too tech savvy.

I didn't realize the cricket deal was 100% responsible for the dip in subscribers. My bad

TCTTS calling me "deranged" is funny though. He is very rattled.

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You're a grown man who "hates" a company "with a passion" that makes entertainment for children. That you even state this aloud, much less choose to make it part of your identity, only proves my point.

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Disney also owns ESPN which is for adults and they've completely ruined that too. Very easy to hate with a passion.

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If any of it were *actually* harmful, or *actually* affecting kids negatively, in any real way, I too would be concerned. But it's not, so I'm not. It's a problem only to those who choose to make it one.

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lol. Try coming up for air out of the sand where your head is buried every now and again.

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Brittmoore Car Club said:

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Madmarttigan said:

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I don't think I can survive without it with a 3 year old and another on the way

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It's tough man. I hate Disney with a passion but she loves Moana (so do I) and Frozen. Lion King too. So we have it.

I'd like to find a way to pirate it but I'm not too tech savvy.

I didn't realize the cricket deal was 100% responsible for the dip in subscribers. My bad

TCTTS calling me "deranged" is funny though. He is very rattled.

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You're a grown man who "hates" a company "with a passion" that makes entertainment for children. That you even state this aloud, much less choose to make it part of your identity, only proves my point.

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correct me if I am wrong but it I have read numerous articles that Disney, both parks and entertainment media, is moving towards an approach that caters as much to young and middle age adults as it does families with kids. Is that not correct?

TCTTS said:

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If any of it were *actually* harmful, or *actually* affecting kids negatively, in any real way, I too would be concerned. But it's not, so I'm not. It's a problem only to those who choose to make it one.

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Do you have children?

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TCTTS said:

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If any of it were *actually* harmful, or *actually* affecting kids negatively, in any real way, I too would be concerned. But it's not, so I'm not. It's a problem only to those who choose to make it one.

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Do you have children?

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Lots of us do and don't have any major issues with them. As do tens of millions who visit the parks and watch the shows and movies.

Urban Ag said:

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TCTTS said:

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If any of it were *actually* harmful, or *actually* affecting kids negatively, in any real way, I too would be concerned. But it's not, so I'm not. It's a problem only to those who choose to make it one.

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Do you have children?

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I have plenty of nieces and nephews I'm close with, but no children myself. Regardless, I've said this a thousand times before, so I'm not going to get into a back-and-forth yet again here, but because I don't think there's anything wrong with being gay, or introducing the concept of a gay relationship to children (if your kids can handle a straight couple on screen, they can handle a gay couple on screen), I have zero issue with Disney's depiction of LGBTQ characters in its entertainment. Especially when it's usually nothing more than a two-second kiss here and there, and certainly nothing that's going to "turn" anyone's kid gay (that's just not how it works). That, and by no means is Disney shouting from the rooftops to white kids that they're inferior. Yes, there was mention of reparations or whatever in that "Proud Family" cartoon, which was over the top, but it's such an obscure show and nothing to freak out over. By and large, Disney is simply employing more diverse casts, and depicting more plights of diverse characters, which... who cares?

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Urban Ag said:

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TCTTS said:

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If any of it were *actually* harmful, or *actually* affecting kids negatively, in any real way, I too would be concerned. But it's not, so I'm not. It's a problem only to those who choose to make it one.

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Do you have children?

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Lots of us do and don't have any major issues with them. As do tens of millions who visit the parks and watch the shows and movies.

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I won't be taking my grandchildren to anything Disney. They've lost me.

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Urban Ag said:

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TCTTS said:

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If any of it were *actually* harmful, or *actually* affecting kids negatively, in any real way, I too would be concerned. But it's not, so I'm not. It's a problem only to those who choose to make it one.

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Do you have children?

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I have plenty of nieces and nephews I'm close with, but no children myself. Regardless, I've said this a thousand times before, so I'm not going to get into a back-and-forth yet again here, but because I don't think there's anything wrong with being gay, or introducing the concept of a gay relationship to children (if your kids can handle a straight couple on screen, they can handle a gay couple on screen), I have zero issue with Disney's depiction of LGBTQ characters in its entertainment. Especially when it's usually nothing more than a two-second kiss here and there, and certainly nothing that's going to "turn" anyone's kid gay (that's just not how it works). That, and by no means is Disney shouting from the rooftops to white kids that they're inferior. Yes, there was mention of reparations or whatever in that "Proud Family" cartoon, which was over the top, but it's such an obscure show and nothing to freak out over. By and large, Disney is simply employing more diverse casts, and depicting more plights of diverse characters, which... who cares?

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This.

So many people with their panties in a wad.

Black Ariel? Who cares

Peck on the lips in lightyear? WGAS

Strange World? Doesn't matter

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TCTTS said:

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If any of it were *actually* harmful, or *actually* affecting kids negatively, in any real way, I too would be concerned. But it's not, so I'm not. It's a problem only to those who choose to make it one.

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Do you have children?

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Lots of us do and don't have any major issues with them. As do tens of millions who visit the parks and watch the shows and movies.

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I won't be taking my grandchildren to anything Disney. They've lost me.

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Shorter lines for us

OP trolled and all the liberal whiners took the bait. Comical.

More like staunch conservatives took the bait

HowdyTexasAggies said:

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OP trolled and all the liberal whiners took the bait. Comical.

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Lol yep! Libtards got WRECKED on this thread.

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It's interesting to cross-reference threads like this (and similar threads on F16) with long-running Star Wars and Marvel threads. Loads of people who love to chime in about how they'll never give any of their money to the woke Mouse but yet strangely have a lot to say about new episodes of Mando or the new MCU series.

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Examples? You say you have lots of them.

I have no interest in naming names for you, old timer. If you're curious, you can go do some light research for yourself.

Urban Ag said:

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correct me if I am wrong but it I have read numerous articles that Disney, both parks and entertainment media, is moving towards an approach that caters as much to young and middle age adults as it does families with kids. Is that not correct?

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This is true, and it's one reason why Disney's parks division continues to record revenue growth.

The market of young, childless "Disnerds" who visit WDW or DL multiple times a year -- or even a month -- has grown tremendously. So has the number of Disney Vacation Club members, who have invested significantly in the Disney experience and can't just back out easily.

Those folks are far more valuable to Disney than the family from Alabama that visits once every three years for four days.

It's why both sides of this controversy are true: Disney HAS alienated many of the folks that used to be their target market. And yet revenues are up because those people don't matter as much financially any more.

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OP trolled and ran away. Weird thing is, he claims to not like the Trump style falsehood statements. And yet he emulates it.

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He is consistently anti-Trump on F16, if you care one way or the other. True none the less.

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I know he is. Trying to show him that he was quoting the same half-truths or pure falsehoods like he rails about Trump doing.

"I don't want my kids growing up learning these deranged values from a company!"

Also,

"I'm fine with stealing content. From that same company no less!"

All of these streaming services reminds me of the Seinfeld episode "The Cafe."

A Pakistani immigrant opens a cafe with a diverse, multicultural menu. Jerry convinces the owner that he needs to focus only Pakistani food if he really wants to make money. The guy remodels and rebrands his restaurant to be Pakistani, and it goes out of business.

A the end of the episode, Jerry, Elaine and George are trying to figure out where to go to dinner. They argue over Mexican, Italian, and Chinese when Jerry says "You know what would be great....," implying that a restaurant with everything would be awesome.

I think that is where we are with streaming services now.

The appeal of streaming vs cable was awesome when there was only Netflix and Hulu, and they carried almost ALL TV and movie content. But once every studio starting pulling their content to make their own streaming platforms, cost is now an issue again, and people want a one-stop shop.

To be fair, just about every major industry website warned people that a la carte would wind up costing the consumer more.

Oh no, I should go short Disney stock because I don't think they'll recover from this.

These dumb arguments about getting beat over the head with woke stuff is the same as the crazy lady that freaked out over Married with Children back in the day. Disney isn't broadcasting these movies and shows directly into your kids minds. You have to make several conscious clicks to get to any of these programs to watch them. Just like that crazy lady should have done, just change the channel or don't hit play.

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I have no interest in naming names for you, old timer. If you're curious, you can go do some light research for yourself.

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Ok

AggieArchitect04 said:

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They bumped up their price last year...

https://texags.com/forums/13/topics/3343804

Also, that poster never paid me $3.00. Lol.

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Were you able to get by this past year?

No. We had to watch Tubi.

AggieArchitect04 said:

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No. We had to watch Tubi.

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T&P

javajaws said:

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I canceled mine earlier this year because of a combination of lack of content and woke content. Not 100% against Disney though...I'll pick them up again eventually for a month or so to watch whatever I want and then cancel again.

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Very principled stance you got there...

It also doesn't hurt that the parks continue to raise prices for just about everything while developing new ways to separate people from their money.

Any company that can get away with charging people $200 for a one-day park pass and THEN charge them $8-$12 to ride individual rides has a license to print money.

There's no doubt that streaming, the studio and cable aren't performing all that well. But the revenue from parks masks a lot of weakness. I know people are blaming the loss of cricket rights in India on the shortfall in Disney+, but domestic subscribers were down by 600,000, too. That's not a good sign.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/10/disney-dis-earnings-report-q2-2023.html

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javajaws said:

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I canceled mine earlier this year because of a combination of lack of content and woke content. Not 100% against Disney though...I'll pick them up again eventually for a month or so to watch whatever I want and then cancel again.

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Very principled stance you got there...

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Not everything in life is black and white. But I guess that's too complicated for you.