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In reply to YouBet • 10:28p, 5/24/23
YouBet said:
Real curious how they are going to do this.

If you are freeloading a sub then you are a thief. That is simply fact. Own it.

However, the whole point of streaming is that I can watch the sub I'm paying for anywhere i want with my login and my device. If they break this (which I can't imagine they are), then we might as well go back to satellite tv which still has a better picture anyway.


How do you figure? Netflix has encouraged that very thing for years. They just recently changed course on it.
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In reply to Swarely • 10:44p, 5/24/23
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Swarely said:
YouBet said:
Real curious how they are going to do this.

If you are freeloading a sub then you are a thief. That is simply fact. Own it.

However, the whole point of streaming is that I can watch the sub I'm paying for anywhere i want with my login and my device. If they break this (which I can't imagine they are), then we might as well go back to satellite tv which still has a better picture anyway.


How do you figure? Netflix has encouraged that very thing for years. They just recently changed course on it.


I mean. Common sense. A general sense of morality. A decent upbringing.


Holy crap. Cancel Netflix, don't cancel Netflix, who cares. Such complaining about $14.99 per month. Honestly I'm not even sure what Netflix costs. But I do know that I pay for the actual **** that I use and don't mooch of family members.
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In reply to BenTheGoodAg • 11:00p, 5/24/23
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BenTheGoodAg said:
The internet being the greatest potential tool ever for sharing information and an oppressed people found a way to access it so they could debate if a dress was white or blue.


Yanny and Laurel

Stepson opened Netflix this afternoon and had to pick a default Wi-Fi network. I went to NF chat and asked wtf, cuz we have multiple networks at home and I travel for work. Said I just had to login from home network once every 30 days.
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In reply to Ol_Ag_02 • 11:06p, 5/24/23
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Who's complaining? People are asking how or if the new rules will affect the packages they signed up for. Pretty simple and normal. It's mind-bottling how angry some of you get with whoever it is you're trying to argue with, over whatever it is you're trying to argue.

If you don't want to see discussion of this topic, then the thread probably shouldn't be of such interest to you.
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In reply to BenTheGoodAg • 2:07a, 5/25/23
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BenTheGoodAg said:
The internet being the greatest potential tool ever for sharing information and an oppressed people found a way to access it so they could debate if a dress was white or blue.
Well, they did have to get hired by an American company first.
And those jokers would jump ship in two seconds if you offered them a 50 cent/hr raise.
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In reply to Jugstore Cowboy • 6:07a, 5/25/23
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Who's complaining? People are asking how or if the new rules will affect the packages they signed up for. Pretty simple and normal. It's mind-bottling how angry some of you get with whoever it is you're trying to argue with, over whatever it is you're trying to argue.

If you don't want to see discussion of this topic, then the thread probably shouldn't be of such interest to you.
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In reply to Ol_Ag_02 • 8:15a, 5/25/23
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In reply to Swarely • 9:57a, 5/25/23
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Swarely said:
YouBet said:
Real curious how they are going to do this.

If you are freeloading a sub then you are a thief. That is simply fact. Own it.

However, the whole point of streaming is that I can watch the sub I'm paying for anywhere i want with my login and my device. If they break this (which I can't imagine they are), then we might as well go back to satellite tv which still has a better picture anyway.


How do you figure? Netflix has encouraged that very thing for years. They just recently changed course on it.


See OlAg's response. This is kindergarten and basic upbringing stuff.
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In reply to Swarely • 10:04a, 5/25/23
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Swarely said:
YouBet said:
Real curious how they are going to do this.

If you are freeloading a sub then you are a thief. That is simply fact. Own it.

However, the whole point of streaming is that I can watch the sub I'm paying for anywhere i want with my login and my device. If they break this (which I can't imagine they are), then we might as well go back to satellite tv which still has a better picture anyway.


How do you figure? Netflix has encouraged that very thing for years. They just recently changed course on it.
I think you need to read the book "Who moved my cheese". Things change, company policies change (ALL companies). Sometimes companies want to emphasize growth, sometimes profit. Sometimes a policy becomes dated or ineffective, etc.

Just move on or pay up. Not meaning to criticize...but you seem to be beating your head against this issue and nothing you or I say will get Netflix to change a thing other than to continue to pay...or not.
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In reply to Swarely • 10:05a, 5/25/23
I wasn't aware that Aggies steal.
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In reply to javajaws • 10:20a, 5/25/23
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javajaws said:
Swarely said:
YouBet said:
Real curious how they are going to do this.

If you are freeloading a sub then you are a thief. That is simply fact. Own it.

However, the whole point of streaming is that I can watch the sub I'm paying for anywhere i want with my login and my device. If they break this (which I can't imagine they are), then we might as well go back to satellite tv which still has a better picture anyway.


How do you figure? Netflix has encouraged that very thing for years. They just recently changed course on it.
I think you need to read the book "Who moved my cheese". Things change, company policies change (ALL companies). Sometimes companies want to emphasize growth, sometimes profit. Sometimes a policy becomes dated or ineffective, etc.

Just move on or pay up. Not meaning to criticize...but you seem to be beating your head against this issue and nothing you or I say will get Netflix to change a thing other than to continue to pay...or not.
Nobody is saying they can't change their policies. I 100% agree they have the right to change, I 100% agree that if people continue to use other people's subs it's stealing.

But acting like people who've been doing it in the past were stealing or "have no morals" is just dumb. I think this is where the argument on this thread is coming from. People are acting perplexed at the thought of people thinking it's ok to share subs when Netflix encouraged it. It was a perk of streaming. No different than month to month/cancel whenever you want, take your streaming wherever you go, etc.

If Netflix wouldn't have specifically came out and said sharing subs is ok, I'm pretty confident not as many posters on this thread would have that position...
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In reply to Originalman1st • 10:30a, 5/25/23
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I wasn't aware that Aggies steal.


Buy tickets from a Nichols.

You'll be aware.
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10:34a, 5/25/23
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I do think it's going to be interesting to see how quickly this is adopted by other companies. With people my age and younger, if they're not on a family plan, it's not uncommon for people to pay for a few services and share those with someone else, who subs to a few different services that they share.

Obviously that's theft and morally bankrupt and all that, so I, personally, would never do it.



But I'm guessing inability to share will lead to an increase in cycling through different services. Get Netflix for a month and binge the newest season of Stranger Things, then drop it. Pick up Max during the latest GoT spinoff, then drop it. Maybe not though. I know certain stuff like Prime being tied to your Amazon and people like me who have young kids need Disney+ as a permanent fixture mean certain things won't be cycled like that.
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In reply to Originalman1st • 10:40a, 5/25/23
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Originalman1st said:
I wasn't aware that Aggies steal.
It's time for you to grow up.
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11:24a, 5/25/23
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As someone who did my fair share of torrenting in college and in my 20's, I'm not judging anyone who was sharing subs. Especially because Netflix encouraged it. I'm just flabbergasted at entitled people who seem offended when Netflix decides to change their policy.

I also don't see how this is even close to a bad decision for Netflix from a revenue perspective. They've already built their brand on years of quality content. If you are paying for it now, why wouldn't you keep paying for it? If you are using someone else's sub and refuse to pay for it... then they lose no money.

The only way I see this affecting them financially is if it reduces their streaming metrics, which could trickle down to ad revenue, investment, or stock prices. However, if their streaming metrics go down slightly, but their total monthly revenue goes up, it may just be a wash or may come out better.

I will say, streaming is what ultimately stopped me from torrenting. Services like Spotify, Netflix, Amazon Prime, HBO Max, etc are services I'm happy to sub to for what I view as a minimal amount of money with more content than I could ever want. I don't think i've pirated a song in nearly a decade at this point. I definitely haven't torrented a movie in years.
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11:29a, 5/25/23
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I will be really interested to see if this move helps or hurts Netflix's bottom line. All of their content is available through various channels online, but it's just enough of a hassle/risk to access, that the average employed person will generally elect to pay the subscription fee rather than stream the content. It will be fascinating to see where the breakpoint is in terms of monthly cost at which point the hassle becomes worth the savings.
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In reply to boy09 • 11:51a, 5/25/23
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Tailgate88 said:
boy09 said:
maroon barchetta said:
DallasTeleAg said:
I don't even know what point you're trying to make. Are you saying all streaming services should be free? Are you saying Netflix is responsible for your oversubscription of streaming services?

We're talking about entertainment, which is not a natural right nor necessary to survive. It is very simple, pay for it if you want it, don't pay for it if you don't.

Or go get a hobby.


I have considered ditching all of our streaming services since picking up guitar! As long as I can watch guitar stuff on YouTube I'm fine, and I don't need a subscription for that!

Once you get a taste of YouTube Premium you'll never go back


Elaborate please.
I watch a ton of youtube. No ads, being able to listen to audio when your screen is locked, and being able to download videos for offline viewing is what i like it for.

Also, creators get a larger chunk of money from Youtube Premium views than they do from normal youtube ad revenue.
Yep. I will also add that Youtube Premium also gives you access to Youtube Music (formerly known as Google Play Music). So no need to pay for Spotify or any of the other music streaming services unless you want the exclusive stuff.
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In reply to cav14 • 12:31p, 5/25/23
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cav14 said:
boy09 said:
Tailgate88 said:
boy09 said:
maroon barchetta said:
DallasTeleAg said:
I don't even know what point you're trying to make. Are you saying all streaming services should be free? Are you saying Netflix is responsible for your oversubscription of streaming services?

We're talking about entertainment, which is not a natural right nor necessary to survive. It is very simple, pay for it if you want it, don't pay for it if you don't.

Or go get a hobby.


I have considered ditching all of our streaming services since picking up guitar! As long as I can watch guitar stuff on YouTube I'm fine, and I don't need a subscription for that!

Once you get a taste of YouTube Premium you'll never go back


Elaborate please.
I watch a ton of youtube. No ads, being able to listen to audio when your screen is locked, and being able to download videos for offline viewing is what i like it for.

Also, creators get a larger chunk of money from Youtube Premium views than they do from normal youtube ad revenue.
Yep. I will also add that Youtube Premium also gives you access to Youtube Music (formerly known as Google Play Music). So no need to pay for Spotify or any of the other music streaming services unless you want the exclusive stuff.
How does that work - is there a Youtube Music app or do you just stream it in the main app?
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In reply to Tailgate88 • 12:41p, 5/25/23
Tailgate88 said:
cav14 said:
boy09 said:
Tailgate88 said:
boy09 said:
maroon barchetta said:
DallasTeleAg said:
I don't even know what point you're trying to make. Are you saying all streaming services should be free? Are you saying Netflix is responsible for your oversubscription of streaming services?

We're talking about entertainment, which is not a natural right nor necessary to survive. It is very simple, pay for it if you want it, don't pay for it if you don't.

Or go get a hobby.


I have considered ditching all of our streaming services since picking up guitar! As long as I can watch guitar stuff on YouTube I'm fine, and I don't need a subscription for that!

Once you get a taste of YouTube Premium you'll never go back


Elaborate please.
I watch a ton of youtube. No ads, being able to listen to audio when your screen is locked, and being able to download videos for offline viewing is what i like it for.

Also, creators get a larger chunk of money from Youtube Premium views than they do from normal youtube ad revenue.
Yep. I will also add that Youtube Premium also gives you access to Youtube Music (formerly known as Google Play Music). So no need to pay for Spotify or any of the other music streaming services unless you want the exclusive stuff.
How does that work - is there a Youtube Music app or do you just stream it in the main app?
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In reply to Originalman1st • 1:02p, 5/25/23
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I wasn't aware that Aggies steal.


How has it been stealing if it is with their permission? If you're leasing a truck, and they let you let your buddy use it sometimes- is he a thief?

Netflix is taking away a perk that has been around for years and I don't think it's worth the money to keep subscribing. Some of y'all are making a mountain out of a molehill.
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In reply to Tailgate88 • 4:03p, 5/25/23
Tailgate88 said:
cav14 said:
boy09 said:
Tailgate88 said:
boy09 said:
maroon barchetta said:
DallasTeleAg said:
I don't even know what point you're trying to make. Are you saying all streaming services should be free? Are you saying Netflix is responsible for your oversubscription of streaming services?

We're talking about entertainment, which is not a natural right nor necessary to survive. It is very simple, pay for it if you want it, don't pay for it if you don't.

Or go get a hobby.


I have considered ditching all of our streaming services since picking up guitar! As long as I can watch guitar stuff on YouTube I'm fine, and I don't need a subscription for that!

Once you get a taste of YouTube Premium you'll never go back


Elaborate please.
I watch a ton of youtube. No ads, being able to listen to audio when your screen is locked, and being able to download videos for offline viewing is what i like it for.

Also, creators get a larger chunk of money from Youtube Premium views than they do from normal youtube ad revenue.
Yep. I will also add that Youtube Premium also gives you access to Youtube Music (formerly known as Google Play Music). So no need to pay for Spotify or any of the other music streaming services unless you want the exclusive stuff.
How does that work - is there a Youtube Music app or do you just stream it in the main app?
Yes, there is a Youtube music app that functions as you would expect. Download music for offline listening, radio stations, playlists, etc. You can also access youtube music directly from the website here:

https://music.youtube.com/

One of the biggest things that I love about Youtube Music that Spotify doesn't have (or at least years ago when I signed up for Google Play Music) is that I can upload my own music to the platform. Personal music that I've created or non-published stuff that doesn't exist on any music platform I can have in my digital streaming library with Youtube Music. It's cool being able to say "Hey Google, play yadda yadda yadda by artist cav14" and the smart device actually play my personal original music. Additionally I also like being able to save and listen to all other obscure non-published music, remixes, and amateur covers that you can find on regular Youtube within Youtube Music and just have all that mixed in with regular published music.
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In reply to cav14 • 4:42p, 5/25/23
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Thanks!
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TCTTS said:


Ha! Burn.
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In reply to concac • 7:37p, 5/25/23
I'm not a thief I pay for what I want. It would seem to me all the grown men on here crying because they can no longer steal from family members or let family members steal from them are the ones that need to grow up. You seem pretty upset I guess it is bothering your conscious to be called a thief huh?
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In reply to YouBet • 7:40p, 5/25/23
Probably why they went bankrupt and was bought out huh? Not the burn you think it is.
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In reply to Originalman1st • 7:42p, 5/25/23
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Originalman1st said:
I'm not a thief I pay for what I want. It would seem to me all the grown men on here crying because they can no longer steal from family members or let family members steal from them are the ones that need to grow up. You seem pretty upset I guess it is bothering your conscious to be called a thief huh?


I pay for my Netflix account but let other people use it. I guess I violated the last part of the Aggie code of honor.

I'm a terrible person.
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In reply to Swarely • 7:43p, 5/25/23
The only people upset are people like you that are allowing your family members to freeload off of you. If they can't afford $8 bucks a month then they don't need to be watching movies they need to be trying to figure out how to make more money to get out of poverty.
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8:10p, 5/25/23
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Would Netflix really care if viewership dropped by 1/5 if subscriptions went up 1/8? That's still way more money for them to make shows, right? They actually lose less money streaming it to people who aren't paying.
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In reply to Definitely Not A Cop • 8:45p, 5/25/23
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Definitely Not A Cop said:
Would Netflix really care if viewership dropped by 1/5 if subscriptions went up 1/8? That's still way more money for them to make shows, right? They actually lose less money streaming it to people who aren't paying.
Seems to me that sharing Netflix outside of immediate family or roommates is like splitting cable (or electricity in some parts of the world) with your neighbor. But in the streaming world where everyone should be able to be anywhere, that's extremely hard to get right. They are attempting to do it with a combination of profiles, a fixed number of simultaneous streams, and now IP address checks.

Maybe a fixed number of TV streaming device IDs and unlimited phone IDs instead might be a better approach?
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9:20p, 5/25/23
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First off, if any of you bothered to look at Netflix's financials or paid attention to the industry over the years, Netflix is literally the ONLY cash-printing streaming service. They're a FCF machine.

This isn't about profitability, it's still about growth.

For people saying they'll cycle services now, stats show most people won't after a few months. They're lazy and won't get rid of the recurring charge. Netflix is the stickiest service out there. They have some of the best data about price elasticity.

The best way to do this price increase is announce now, then launch a few new kid shows and a few high demand series you have waiting in the wings, drive back any lost subscribers, and then let it ride.

This outrage is very similar to the outrage when they decided to break out streaming subscriptions from DVD subscription back around 2011 or 2012, after offering streaming for free for a few years. That was like a 50% price increase if I remember correctly. Messaged poorly as well. Stock tanked like 75% over a few months. Everyone said they were done. That's when I bought my first shares of Netflix, sitting at like $14 or something, I think it got even lower after I bought.

The family cell phone plan is actually extremely relevant. It's not free sharing, you pay more per line, that's all Netflix is making you do now.

Reed Hastings and the data machine he built knows human behavior and the free market's value of his product extremely well. They'll be fine, and I'm pretty convinced this will be accretive to the top and bottom line.
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In reply to TCTTS • 9:57p, 5/25/23
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TCTTS said:


I've got a couple of And1 mixtape dvds I forgot to mail back in. Every time I'm reminded of Blockbuster's demise I think....oops!
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In reply to Buck Compton • 11:29p, 5/25/23
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Interesting analysis, I think you're right - they are a data company that uses streaming content to get that data, and they're dang good at analyzing it to account for human behavior.

We'll see if they're right at the 3q earnings call!
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We won't know if they're right for a few quarters honestly. Look, they could be wrong, but it flies in the face of everything I've learned about modern consumer behavior.
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