Derm is influenced by David Bentley Hart, a very formidable Orthodox scholar who has produced an excellent and amazing New Testament translation I highly recommend.

While it's true the nature and even the reality of hell was heavily debated before the tragic split, Orthodox thought is united that salvation is a process, a theosis, received by faith through grace, primarily in the conduits of the Sacraments. As such, an opposite decision exists, and an opposite of the Beatific Vision. I do recommend Hart's translation, and my favorite mystical tradition, including the descent of Christ to this place on April 3, 33 AD, is detailed in the visions of Anne Catherine Emmerich (Angelico Press).

It's also important to be precise with terminology, and we too often are overly broad which obscures much. Demons, for example, are narrowly defined by 2nd Temple era scribes and authors, and entities - including some from hell - can be demonic without fitting their definition.

Close textual analysts from Protestantism can be very good on this, and I especially like Michael Heiser (RIP) and Tim Alberino.

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To be fair, the last Office spinoff was The Farm- the backdoor pilot episode in the final season that was intended to move on to a full series, based on Dwight's family. A series that nobody needed. It was well cast, but rightfully killed.

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Keep in mind, that show runner was going to be Paul Lieberstein. The office took a dramatic left turn as soon as he took over and Schur and Daniels left.

Everything Paul has touched outside the office is gar-bage.

Rudyjax said:

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20ag07 said:

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To be fair, the last Office spinoff was The Farm- the backdoor pilot episode in the final season that was intended to move on to a full series, based on Dwight's family. A series that nobody needed. It was well cast, but rightfully killed.

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Keep in mind, that show runner was going to be Paul Lieberstein. The office took a dramatic left turn as soon as he took over and Schur and Daniels left.

Everything Paul has touched outside the office is gar-bage.

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Sure. Other than King of the Hill, Drew Carey show, and Bernie Mac show.

Rudyjax said:

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20ag07 said:

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To be fair, the last Office spinoff was The Farm- the backdoor pilot episode in the final season that was intended to move on to a full series, based on Dwight's family. A series that nobody needed. It was well cast, but rightfully killed.

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Keep in mind, that show runner was going to be Paul Lieberstein. The office took a dramatic left turn as soon as he took over and Schur and Daniels left.

Everything Paul has touched outside the office is gar-bage.

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https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-hate-gif-13005160

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Rudyjax said:

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20ag07 said:

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To be fair, the last Office spinoff was The Farm- the backdoor pilot episode in the final season that was intended to move on to a full series, based on Dwight's family. A series that nobody needed. It was well cast, but rightfully killed.

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Keep in mind, that show runner was going to be Paul Lieberstein. The office took a dramatic left turn as soon as he took over and Schur and Daniels left.

Everything Paul has touched outside the office is gar-bage.

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Sure. Other than King of the Hill, Drew Carey show, and Bernie Mac show.

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Post office. But he literally just road his bils coattails.

Personally I'd rather just watch a live stream of the writers room with the networks selected writers and TexAg posters trying to write a script together for a reboot of The Office.

The back and forth about what jokes should be in the show would be worth it.

Writer: "we can't say that"
TexAgs poster "but that's WHY it's funny!"

No idea if this will be any good or not, but as of now I'm legit looking forward to having a "network" sitcom back in my life…

First poster for the new ‘THE OFFICE’ series ‘THE PAPER’

The series follows the Dunder Mifflin documentary crew as they focus on a dying historic Midwestern newspaper & its volunteer reporters.

Releasing September 4 on Peacock. pic.twitter.com/a8GDl8MbMO

— DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) July 10, 2025

#TheOffice follow-up series ‘The Paper’ is releasing its first 4 episodes September 4 on Peacock 🗞️

2 episodes will release every Thursday after until the season ends pic.twitter.com/JWHXt9Hx9B

— Culture Crave 🍿 (@CultureCrave) July 10, 2025

Four episodes the first week, then two episodes per week until the end of the season.... So, this will be done by the end of September?

AustinAg2K said:

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Four episodes the first week, then two episodes per week until the end of the season.... So, this will be done by the end of September?

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Yep it will take 3 weeks to air all 10 episodes. I'll give this a shot but I'm leery.

Notice the quotes around "network."

TCTTS said:

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No idea if this will be any good or not, but as of now I'm legit looking forward to having a "network" sitcom back in my life…

First poster for the new ‘THE OFFICE’ series ‘THE PAPER’

The series follows the Dunder Mifflin documentary crew as they focus on a dying historic Midwestern newspaper & its volunteer reporters.

Releasing September 4 on Peacock. pic.twitter.com/a8GDl8MbMO

— DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) July 10, 2025

#TheOffice follow-up series ‘The Paper’ is releasing its first 4 episodes September 4 on Peacock 🗞️

2 episodes will release every Thursday after until the season ends pic.twitter.com/JWHXt9Hx9B

— Culture Crave 🍿 (@CultureCrave) July 10, 2025

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Is that Oscar?

Yes