Probably a LOT. Watch this. WOW!!!!Mathguy64 said:I wonder how much of that was due to Terry Kath's passing?HtownAg92 said:That's a good one. They flipped from solid rockin' to crappy ballads.Milwaukees Best Light said:
Heart
70's stuff like Barracuda and Magic Man rocked
80's stuff like These Dreams sucked but made them a butt pile of money.
Speaking of, not so much rockin', but the Chicago transition is another one that I can't stand.
Music you love and hate from the same artist
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I couldn't agree more.TX AG 88 said:
to add an original answer, Guns N Roses
Love the hits from Appetite. Also like Used to Love Her.
Pretty much hate everything else by them. November Rain, Live and Let Die, you name it. Axl's voice to me evolved into a bad version of Ethel Merman squeezing one out.
I know this post will explode some heads, but so be it.
dang to me they evolved so much in early 90s.Rudyjax said:I couldn't agree more.TX AG 88 said:
to add an original answer, Guns N Roses
Love the hits from Appetite. Also like Used to Love Her.
Pretty much hate everything else by them. November Rain, Live and Let Die, you name it. Axl's voice to me evolved into a bad version of Ethel Merman squeezing one out.
I know this post will explode some heads, but so be it.
November rain, estranged, civil war….
Master class in epic rock songwriting.
Then live and let die and knocking are a masterclass in how to cover a song.
There is so much good stuff on UYI I and II. Deeper tracks. Don't Damn Me is one of my favorites but I think my favorite all time is Double Talkin' Jive. Hell, it's been my dig for over 20 years here.
Dust and Bones
You Ain't the First
Breakdown
Perfect Crime
I could go on and on.
Dust and Bones
You Ain't the First
Breakdown
Perfect Crime
I could go on and on.
Double Talkin' Jive...
Fuzzy Dunlop said:
There is so much good stuff on UYI I and II. Deeper tracks. Don't Damn Me is one of my favorites but I think my favorite all time is Double Talkin' Jive. Hell, it's been my dig for over 20 years here.
Dust and Bones
You Ain't the First
Breakdown
Perfect Crime
I could go on and on.
I always thought that if Guns n Roses took the best 15 songs from those two and made just one album, it would be the best album of the 90s.
I actually liked the first 2 solo albums, with the 1st one (Pictures at Eleven) being close to a 5 star. 2nd one pretty good too, In The Mood on that one. Would have liked to have seen what Page could have done with that material. Phil Collins was the drummer on both these albums.Emotional Support Cobra said:Milwaukees Best Light said:
Not sure if this counts, but Robert Plant. Love me some Zep. Hate his solo stuff.
Came here to post this
not unless in this alternate reality the black album didn't happen.Bruce Almighty said:Fuzzy Dunlop said:
There is so much good stuff on UYI I and II. Deeper tracks. Don't Damn Me is one of my favorites but I think my favorite all time is Double Talkin' Jive. Hell, it's been my dig for over 20 years here.
Dust and Bones
You Ain't the First
Breakdown
Perfect Crime
I could go on and on.
I always thought that if Guns n Roses took the best 15 songs from those two and made just one album, it would be the best album of the 90s.
When they came out, they were like nothing else being played on the radio and MTv.62strat said:dang to me they evolved so much in early 90s.Rudyjax said:I couldn't agree more.TX AG 88 said:
to add an original answer, Guns N Roses
Love the hits from Appetite. Also like Used to Love Her.
Pretty much hate everything else by them. November Rain, Live and Let Die, you name it. Axl's voice to me evolved into a bad version of Ethel Merman squeezing one out.
I know this post will explode some heads, but so be it.
November rain, estranged, civil war….
Master class in epic rock songwriting.
Then live and let die and knocking are a masterclass in how to cover a song.
Then the later 90s stuff was just....I don't know...Pop?
And the involvement of David Foster as producer and cowriter with Peter Cetera.Mathguy64 said:I wonder how much of that was due to Terry Kath's passing?HtownAg92 said:That's a good one. They flipped from solid rockin' to crappy ballads.Milwaukees Best Light said:
Heart
70's stuff like Barracuda and Magic Man rocked
80's stuff like These Dreams sucked but made them a butt pile of money.
Speaking of, not so much rockin', but the Chicago transition is another one that I can't stand.
Some of that of course is just a band's desire to stay relevant as popular musical styles change. Aerosmith did the same when they came back -- moved to Diane Warren-style ballads.HtownAg92 said:That's a good one. They flipped from solid rockin' to crappy ballads.Milwaukees Best Light said:
Heart
70's stuff like Barracuda and Magic Man rocked
80's stuff like These Dreams sucked but made them a butt pile of money.
Speaking of, not so much rockin', but the Chicago transition is another one that I can't stand.
Even the Rolling Stones put out disco-flavored songs in the '70s.
Any band that's been around for 40 years has had to shift styles to survive.
Every band except AC/DC.EclipseAg said:Some of that of course is just a band's desire to stay relevant as popular musical styles change. Aerosmith did the same when they came back -- moved to Diane Warren-style ballads.HtownAg92 said:That's a good one. They flipped from solid rockin' to crappy ballads.Milwaukees Best Light said:
Heart
70's stuff like Barracuda and Magic Man rocked
80's stuff like These Dreams sucked but made them a butt pile of money.
Speaking of, not so much rockin', but the Chicago transition is another one that I can't stand.
Even the Rolling Stones put out disco-flavored songs in the '70s.
Any band that's been around for 40 years has had to shift styles to survive.
Double Talkin' Jive...
Yep
Lots of Rush fans didn't like their changes. But it worked for them. And they came back closer to their roots on some tracks later in their career.
Lots of Rush fans didn't like their changes. But it worked for them. And they came back closer to their roots on some tracks later in their career.
GnR didn't put out any new material in the 90s after illusions.Rudyjax said:When they came out, they were like nothing else being played on the radio and MTv.62strat said:dang to me they evolved so much in early 90s.Rudyjax said:I couldn't agree more.TX AG 88 said:
to add an original answer, Guns N Roses
Love the hits from Appetite. Also like Used to Love Her.
Pretty much hate everything else by them. November Rain, Live and Let Die, you name it. Axl's voice to me evolved into a bad version of Ethel Merman squeezing one out.
I know this post will explode some heads, but so be it.
November rain, estranged, civil war….
Master class in epic rock songwriting.
Then live and let die and knocking are a masterclass in how to cover a song.
Then the later 90s stuff was just....I don't know...Pop?
they are mostly a touring legacy band though with rare new music. They put out more albums in their first 2 years then they have in the last 25.Fuzzy Dunlop said:Every band except AC/DC.EclipseAg said:Some of that of course is just a band's desire to stay relevant as popular musical styles change. Aerosmith did the same when they came back -- moved to Diane Warren-style ballads.HtownAg92 said:That's a good one. They flipped from solid rockin' to crappy ballads.Milwaukees Best Light said:
Heart
70's stuff like Barracuda and Magic Man rocked
80's stuff like These Dreams sucked but made them a butt pile of money.
Speaking of, not so much rockin', but the Chicago transition is another one that I can't stand.
Even the Rolling Stones put out disco-flavored songs in the '70s.
Any band that's been around for 40 years has had to shift styles to survive.
Yes.62strat said:GnR didn't put out any new material in the 90s after illusions.Rudyjax said:When they came out, they were like nothing else being played on the radio and MTv.62strat said:dang to me they evolved so much in early 90s.Rudyjax said:I couldn't agree more.TX AG 88 said:
to add an original answer, Guns N Roses
Love the hits from Appetite. Also like Used to Love Her.
Pretty much hate everything else by them. November Rain, Live and Let Die, you name it. Axl's voice to me evolved into a bad version of Ethel Merman squeezing one out.
I know this post will explode some heads, but so be it.
November rain, estranged, civil war….
Master class in epic rock songwriting.
Then live and let die and knocking are a masterclass in how to cover a song.
Then the later 90s stuff was just....I don't know...Pop?
I'm gonna have to go ahead and say.. no.Rudyjax said:Yes.62strat said:GnR didn't put out any new material in the 90s after illusions.Rudyjax said:When they came out, they were like nothing else being played on the radio and MTv.62strat said:dang to me they evolved so much in early 90s.Rudyjax said:I couldn't agree more.TX AG 88 said:
to add an original answer, Guns N Roses
Love the hits from Appetite. Also like Used to Love Her.
Pretty much hate everything else by them. November Rain, Live and Let Die, you name it. Axl's voice to me evolved into a bad version of Ethel Merman squeezing one out.
I know this post will explode some heads, but so be it.
November rain, estranged, civil war….
Master class in epic rock songwriting.
Then live and let die and knocking are a masterclass in how to cover a song.
Then the later 90s stuff was just....I don't know...Pop?
I loved GNR in 1988. Listened to that tape until it wore out.62strat said:I'm gonna have to go ahead and say.. no.Rudyjax said:Yes.62strat said:GnR didn't put out any new material in the 90s after illusions.Rudyjax said:When they came out, they were like nothing else being played on the radio and MTv.62strat said:dang to me they evolved so much in early 90s.Rudyjax said:I couldn't agree more.TX AG 88 said:
to add an original answer, Guns N Roses
Love the hits from Appetite. Also like Used to Love Her.
Pretty much hate everything else by them. November Rain, Live and Let Die, you name it. Axl's voice to me evolved into a bad version of Ethel Merman squeezing one out.
I know this post will explode some heads, but so be it.
November rain, estranged, civil war….
Master class in epic rock songwriting.
Then live and let die and knocking are a masterclass in how to cover a song.
Then the later 90s stuff was just....I don't know...Pop?
Come Illusions 1&2, it didn't do it for me.
We all have our own opinions.
ok, yeh.. your wording was horrible.Rudyjax said:I loved GNR in 1988. Listened to that tape until it wore out.62strat said:I'm gonna have to go ahead and say.. no.Rudyjax said:Yes.62strat said:GnR didn't put out any new material in the 90s after illusions.Rudyjax said:When they came out, they were like nothing else being played on the radio and MTv.62strat said:dang to me they evolved so much in early 90s.Rudyjax said:I couldn't agree more.TX AG 88 said:
to add an original answer, Guns N Roses
Love the hits from Appetite. Also like Used to Love Her.
Pretty much hate everything else by them. November Rain, Live and Let Die, you name it. Axl's voice to me evolved into a bad version of Ethel Merman squeezing one out.
I know this post will explode some heads, but so be it.
November rain, estranged, civil war….
Master class in epic rock songwriting.
Then live and let die and knocking are a masterclass in how to cover a song.
Then the later 90s stuff was just....I don't know...Pop?
Come Illusions 1&2, it didn't do it for me.
We all have our own opinions.
you said when 'they' came out in response to my comment on illusions 1 and 2. I inferred 'they' was those 2 albums. (the songs on those albums continues to fit your narrative of sounding like nothing else on radio/mtv)
Then you said the 'later 90s' stuff, implying the stuff after illusions in the late 90s, in which nothing exists.
Got ya. They came out, as in GNR. Later in the 1990s.... UYI 1&2.62strat said:ok, yeh.. your wording was horrible.Rudyjax said:I loved GNR in 1988. Listened to that tape until it wore out.62strat said:I'm gonna have to go ahead and say.. no.Rudyjax said:Yes.62strat said:GnR didn't put out any new material in the 90s after illusions.Rudyjax said:When they came out, they were like nothing else being played on the radio and MTv.62strat said:dang to me they evolved so much in early 90s.Rudyjax said:I couldn't agree more.TX AG 88 said:
to add an original answer, Guns N Roses
Love the hits from Appetite. Also like Used to Love Her.
Pretty much hate everything else by them. November Rain, Live and Let Die, you name it. Axl's voice to me evolved into a bad version of Ethel Merman squeezing one out.
I know this post will explode some heads, but so be it.
November rain, estranged, civil war….
Master class in epic rock songwriting.
Then live and let die and knocking are a masterclass in how to cover a song.
Then the later 90s stuff was just....I don't know...Pop?
Come Illusions 1&2, it didn't do it for me.
We all have our own opinions.
you said when 'they' came out in response to my comment on illusions 1 and 2. I inferred 'they' was those 2 albums. (the songs on those albums continues to fit your narrative of sounding like nothing else on radio/mtv)
Then you said the 'later 90s' stuff, implying the stuff after illusions in the late 90s, in which nothing exists.
I think part of it too is I'm probably 10 years older than you, so perspectives are totally different.
Never heard of anyone hating November Rain.
Isn't the new stuff just the old stuff re-recorded?The Marksman said:
Taylor Swift
Old stuff was good, new stuff not so much
MooreTrucker said:
Never heard of anyone hating November Rain.
Don't hate it but I'll skip or change when it comes on.
Terry Kath's passing and Peter Cetera's takeover.
Still one of my favorite bands and a GREAT concert where they play almost only Chicago XIII and before.
Still one of my favorite bands and a GREAT concert where they play almost only Chicago XIII and before.
Clear #1. My favorite band of all time but with albums I can't listen too at all. Mostly after "American Idiot" Actually most of the stuff after that.arrow said:
Green Day
I can hear the Cetera pitch once he had the reins:MooreTrucker said:
Terry Kath's passing and Peter Cetera's takeover.
Still one of my favorite bands and a GREAT concert where they play almost only Chicago XIII and before.
"Fellas, we need to take this band in another direction. Hear me out. What if we ditched all the brass and basically all the guitar and played a bunch of music that junior high kids can slow dance to and/or cry to when they break up with the person they are 'going with'? How's that sound? Great. Let's do it."
And they sold a crapton of records doing that.
The world is dumb.
The world is dumb.
Man, that's another good one. I like everything before American Idiot. Then American Idiot was a great, epic album. One of my favorites by anybody. Then everything after that is terrible as far as I'm concerned. It's like they put all the creativity they had left into that one album.CoolaidWade said:Clear #1. My favorite band of all time but with albums I can't listen too at all. Mostly after "American Idiot" Actually most of the stuff after that.arrow said:
Green Day
My list. Hate is too strong a word except for maybe Chicago.
1. Chicago post Terry Kath
2. Genesis post Steve Hackett - they still had a couple of good albums after Peter Gabriel left
3. Queensryche post Chris DeGarmo - their EP and first 5 albums are great
1. Chicago post Terry Kath
2. Genesis post Steve Hackett - they still had a couple of good albums after Peter Gabriel left
3. Queensryche post Chris DeGarmo - their EP and first 5 albums are great
Doobie Brothers in the Michael McDonald era
Good one, although I have to give the man props for his backing vocals on Steely Dan's "Peg".maroon barchetta said:
Doobie Brothers in the Michael McDonald era
maroon barchetta said:
Doobie Brothers in the Michael McDonald era
They adjusted to the power soft, yacht rock sound that people wanted and KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK.
gggmann said:Good one, although I have to give the man props for his backing vocals on Steely Dan's "Peg".maroon barchetta said:
Doobie Brothers in the Michael McDonald era
His backing vocals and solo stuff are fine because you what you are in for.
Doobie Brothers songs before he became a big part were much better.
Hated Rush post Rutsey. They totally sucked when John left. 
Seriously, adding Neil is up there as one of the biggest addition/band changes in a positive direction ever. It totally changed their trajectory. Not quite on the level with Fleetwood Mac adding Buckingham and Nicks but it's up there.
Seriously, adding Neil is up there as one of the biggest addition/band changes in a positive direction ever. It totally changed their trajectory. Not quite on the level with Fleetwood Mac adding Buckingham and Nicks but it's up there.
metallica getting cliff is up there. He did so much for their first 3 albums that Ron would have never done.Mathguy64 said:
Hated Rush post Rutsey. They totally sucked when John left.
Seriously, adding Neil is up there as one of the biggest addition/band changes in a positive direction ever. It totally changed their trajectory. Not quite on the level with Fleetwood Mac adding Buckingham and Nicks but it's up there.
I saw the Doobie Brothers in Vegas in 2022 when Pearl Jam cancelled.gggmann said:Good one, although I have to give the man props for his backing vocals on Steely Dan's "Peg".maroon barchetta said:
Doobie Brothers in the Michael McDonald era
They were awesome unless it was a Michael McDonald song.
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