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Could y'all see another city eventually developing into a rival "Hollywood"

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I personally think it's BS for states (or any government) to make special deals with any industry over another. Everybody, including corporations and individuals, should be ideally taxed for the government resources they consume. If they consume a lot of government resources, then they should pay a lot of taxes. If they consume little, then they should pay little taxes. For the most part, I don't see movie studios consuming much. They should pay for police protection, the court system, and whatnot, but nothing too special except things like when they need streets blocked off for shoots. It should be fair and by the same rules as everybody else.
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Texas does have a franchise tax so I guess they could do a credit.
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Quad Dog said:

Anywhere that isn't Hollywood is really just a place for Hollywood production companies to go to in order to get tax breaks.
It's just a shell game. One state unfairly grants tax breaks to one industry. Eventually they wise up and cut back the incentives, and then Hollywood productions move on to the next state.
aTmAg
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It's usually not the tax breaks that are unfair, it's the taxes that are.
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aTmAg said:

The same was said about the steel and electronics industries. As government pushed the cost of living in America through the roof, those industries move out of the country for greener pastures. Hollywood isn't immune to economics. If things keep going as they have been, they will move out of California and eventually the country altogether. It's just a matter of time.


In the Godzilla Minus One thread someone pointed out it was made for like 15M or something. The movie is great and hard to see a significant drop off from a similar Hollywood movie that cost 10x more (google search budget for Kong vs Godzilla at 155M). I'm no expert but if the name of the game is profit at some point they will figure out a way to save some money.
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The bad news: The next Hollywood will be in Beijing

The good news: Their movies won't be any more anti American than Hollywood's are now and there will probably be a lot less woke stuff
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https://www.kvue.com/article/money/economy/boomtown-2040/san-marcos-film-studio/269-5c3730a3-1606-46ee-afe8-6cfbe724202b
Capybara
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You don't even know where China's film/arts scene is, so opinion disregarded. That, and lots of Hollywood productions have either explicit or implicit pro-military/patriotic messages due to the CIA and their private offshoots. Really unfortunate that it's so easy for NGOs and the media to create "enemies" like China out of thin air.
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I'm now finally convinced this is a troll account.
Capybara
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I mean I wish it were, and yeah sometimes when I'm bored I'll fire off takes from the hip. Why not? Taking the internet seriously ruins it.

Yeah, it's true that if a movie - nearly always a blockbuster- is going to be shown in China, they can and will make demands of what they want excluded (or sometimes included); but personally I think the (physical) infrastructure for blockbusters has cratered so badly that I just don't expect anything out of them anyway.

But yeah everything from Jack Ryan to Top Gun isn't exactly shy about what it's promoting. Which is fine, idc, but to think Hollywood productions are anti-American is absurd. Even if someone is just referring to sh*tlib actors or whatever, who cares? All but a few of these people care about money before anything else anyway.

Speaking of Jack Ryan, God, I just remembered that one of John Krasinski's favorite authors is David Foster Wallace. I mean good Lord, I guess I have to respect anyone who can make it through his depression-soaked pages. His nonfiction is good though, but I digress.
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Capybara
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This board aspires to be middlebrow. Unfortunate.
Sea Speed
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Thank God you're here to keep us aware of how lowly and pathetic we are and how enlightened you are.
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uujm said:

I would move the 20-30 movies per year I produce to Austin if Texas would match the Georgia credit. The Texas incentive is tiered and sucks.

The biggest issue I have to deal with in Atlanta is rain which you don't have a problem with in L.A. and Austin.



If you ever need any dopey-looking extras, lmk.
maroon barchetta
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David Wallace was the CFO at Dunder-Mifflin. Of course Krasinski would like him.
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Andrew Dufresne said:

Epicenter. That's a good word to describe it.

What was the epicenter before Hollywood?
The big movie making area in the early days was in the NYC area. Movie producers fled to California to get away from the unions and for better weather. Many of the films were shot outdoors.

Kind of ironic that Hollywood was established to get away from unions.
Capybara
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I like trash and/or middlebrow stuff like everyone else (though mostly the former). It'd just be nice if this board had more discussion around the best domestic and international productions each year. Whatever.
Sea Speed
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So start that conversation if you want it, I am certain there are people who would indulge. I had several people know an obscure sludge metal band from the 90s recently. This place will surprise you as long as you drop the self righteousness I would imagine.
maroon barchetta
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Dude named himself after a giant nutria.

Don't expect too much.
Capybara
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Oh I don't want to start anything; already have other places both irl and online to talk about this stuff. Like if I'm going to start a post about a movie like Elle, probably the best of 2016, then it's going to be in depth, but I'm not typing a long and completely earnest post if I think it's going to get 0 engagement. Also, the self-righteous thing is ofc just posturing. I'd either have no friends or the worst ones if I were that way irl.

Idk, I rarely find things on here that really click with me, but I guess I keep coming back because it's nice to post somewhere directly attached to A&M, which I began to feel estranged from as soon as I moved to LA. That, and honestly I feel that lots of people on here - dads, busy with their jobs, etc. - would never know about lots of this stuff otherwise, even if they formerly were cinephiles or had a greater than average interest in movies. Better to be a dbag when mentioning these titles than just another poster.
Capybara
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Yeah, cringed when I first put two and two together wrt to that character. Obviously cannot stand David Foster Wallace. Bret Easton Ellis on the other hand…
PatAg
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Orlando kinda tried it in the 90s with Nickelodeon
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