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Unfortunately, we almost assuredly would have heard about it by now, but there are zero reports. My guess is Disney's holding it for Lilo & Stitch (and Mission: Impossible - The Final Reckoning) the weekend of May 23 - Memorial Day weekend - which would make more sense, seeing as Lilo & Stitch is another Disney property, is tracking higher than Thunderbolts*, and, especially combined with Mission: Impossible - The Final Reckoning, would be in front of more eyeballs that weekend.
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Nothing.

My guess is FF.
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I would be shocked if they wait until late July, especially considering they already released footage at CinemaCon last month, but who knows.
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The first teaser trailer for The Way of Water released online until May 9, 2022. The full trailer then released online November 2, 2022. My guess is they'll follow a similar May/November strategy here.
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TCTTS said:

The first teaser trailer for The Way of Water released online until May 9, 2022. The full trailer then released online November 2, 2022. My guess is they'll follow a similar May/November strategy here.


Well there goes that.

Still think FF is the most likely at this point.
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At this point you're probably right. Last weekend would have been more than perfect, but I guess they have other plans. There's always Jurassic Park Rebirth (7/2) and Superman (7/11) as well, but neither are Disney movies, so The Fantastic Four (7/22) probably makes the most sense now.
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I'll see it opening weekend because it's James Cameron, and I'm sure it will print money, but I can't help but think about the other James Cameron movies we are missing out on while he is preoccupied with Avatar.
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At least I have that to look forward to. Someday...
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After this third movie, it sounds like Cameron is taking a break from the Avatar franchise regardless, and that Ghosts of Hiroshima really is next - as in the next two or three years. If I remember correctly, there's supposed to be a pretty big time jump between the first three Avatar movies and Avatar 4 and 5, so I think this break was always built in. Especially seeing as Avatar 4 and 5 still aren't even technically guaranteed/greenlit yet.
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Never mind, I didn't look up higher in the thread initially.
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Below is the official blurb from the publisher. Basically, yeah, it sounds like it's exactly what you're assuming...

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SOON TO BE A MAJOR MOTION PICTURE FROM ACADEMY AWARDWINNING FILMMAKER JAMES CAMERON

From the acclaimed New York Times bestselling author of Her Name and Titanic, this stunning hardcover edition includes sprayed edges, printed end sheets, and interior illustrations, and arrives on the eightieth anniversary of the bomb dropping on Hiroshima.

GHOSTS OF HIROSHIMA

For all humanity, it was, literally and figuratively, childhood's end.

No one recognized the flashes of bright light that filled the sky. Survivors described colors they couldn't name. The blast wave that followed seemed to strike with no sound. In that silence came the dawn of atomic death for two hundred thousand souls.

On August 6, 1945, twenty-nine-year-old naval engineer Tsutomu Yamaguchi was on the last day of a business trip, looking forward to returning home to his wife and infant son, when the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima. He survived the atomic blast and got on a train to Nagasaki, only to be bombed again.

Jacob Beser, a Manhattan Project engineer, looked down on Hiroshima and saw the ground boiling. Years afterward, he referred to what he witnessed as "the most bizarre and spectacular two events in the history of man's inhumanity to man."

From that first millionth of a second, people began to die in previously unimaginable ways. Near Hiroshima's hypocenter, teeth were scattered on the ground, speckles of incandescent blood were converted to carbon steel, a child's marbles melted to blobs of molten glass.

From the bombs were born radioactive substances that mimicked calcium in growing bones and which, ten years later, filled hospitals with a shocking truth: nuclear weapons, more than anything else, were child-killers.

Based on years of forensic archaeology combined with interviews of more than two hundred survivors and their families, Ghosts of Hiroshima is a you-are-there account of ordinary human beings thrust into extraordinary events, during which our modern civilization entered its most challenging phase--a nuclear adolescence that, unless we are very wise and learn from our past, we may not survive.

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Thanks.

This is a risky subject that, if he goes a certain direction, he will piss off a lot of people. I am sympathetic to the survivors and all they endured, but not to the point of claiming the US was wrong to drop those bombs.
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Agreed. Cameron's a smart dude, but also a preachy one, so I have no idea where this is going to land.
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Seeing a ton of chatter/hints today that the first Fire and Ash trailer is dropping next week with The Fantastic Four.

Looks like Spilner guessed correctly.
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Cam bootleg version of the trailer…

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Higher quality version...

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Trailer kicked ass in IMAX.
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Looks like Cameron might be channeling a little "Apocalypto" for this movie (natives v natives as the primary conflict).

And I'm ok with that.

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Saw this trailer before Fantastic Four. I've been up-front about my disdain for this series. It's not that I hate it per se - the first two movies were a visual feast and were classic James Cameron science fiction in terms of design elements and such - but I just feel so bored with them. I know, just don't watch ... but I will watch, I'll even see it in a theater I'm sure because, again, visual spectacle. But the overall story is just so, meh.
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I just feel so bored with them. I know, just don't watch ... but I will watch, I'll even see it in a theater I'm sure because, again, visual spectacle. But the overall story is just so, meh.

The first one was cool because it was all so new & visually overwhelming... like nothing anyone had ever seen. I walked out of the second one... too long & I didn't give a crap about what happened.
This one looks more interesting, so I'm definitely in. Cameron is capable of a great story, but I feel like he put so much energy into the visuals he forgot the basics of a compelling plot & interesting characters.

I could also do without the use of the word "bro" 237 times in this sequel.
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My early theory, which will undoubtedly be wrong:

  • Quaritch joins the ash clan (clear from the trailer)
  • Our heroes and the Metkayina gets their asses kicked by the ashies
  • Metkayina and Omitacaya join forces against the ashies (also clear from trailer)
  • After a protracted war, Jake makes a plea to the RDA for help
  • RDA joins the fight and ashies are finally dealt with...
  • ... until RDA betrays our heroes, kills Jake, along with many Na'vi on both sides. Both factions get decimated and their homes destroyed.
Quaritch joining the ashies was all a setup, and just the first step of the master plan to incite the war and finally end the Na'vi threat.

This rallies the entirety of the Na'vi clans together for the "real fight" against the RDA in the final two movies.
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Could totally see it playing out along those lines.

Also a reminder to the thread that whatever happens, we're going back to Earth for the fourth one, with Neytiti and whoever else. No matter your level of interest in the franchise, that's going to be pretty cool to see. I'm so curious how that's even going to work.
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I just feel so bored with them. I know, just don't watch ... but I will watch, I'll even see it in a theater I'm sure because, again, visual spectacle. But the overall story is just so, meh.

The first one was cool because it was all so new & visually overwhelming... like nothing anyone had ever seen. I walked out of the second one... too long & I didn't give a crap about what happened.
This one looks more interesting, so I'm definitely in. Cameron is capable of a great story, but I feel like he put so much energy into the visuals he forgot the basics of a compelling plot & interesting characters.

I could also do without the use of the word "bro" 237 times in this sequel.

Yes, that first one was visually awesome, but it certainly didn't overwhelm me. The ride at Disney World was so much more an experience than the movie. And then you throw in the very familiar story Cameron chose to tell.

Cameron has always been about his visuals. Early on he was capable of great story telling as well. I never believed there would be a sequel to Alien until he came along with Aliens. Now my opinion, he simply took the story of Alien, added more critters and more people characters, threw in a military aspect and voila, one of the best sequels ever was the original movie dressed up with different window dressing. But that never bothered me, Aliens was a hell of a ride and felt different than the original. The Terminator and Terminator 2 was probably peak Cameron, particularly the sequel, but consider what he was able to put together with The Terminator on a budget of about $1.95. I loved True Lies and wish he'd have made half a dozen of these rather than Avatar.
 
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