Without even looking at any lists or IMDB or anything, 1994 is the first year that came to mind.

Also the year I graduated from A&M. Also the year rock music achieved perfection (to paraphrase Homer Simpson).

What else came out in 2007 besides No Country for Old Men and There Will Be Blood?

Mr. White said:

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What else came out in 2007 besides No Country for Old Men and There Will Be Blood?

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Superbad
Transformers
Hot Fuzz
300
I am Legend
Walk Hard
Eastern Promises
3:10 to Yuma
Oceans 13
Mr Brooks
Smokin Aces

The Porkchop Express said:

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What would be the logical parameters for picking the representatives of each year?

My idea would be to start in 1975 (because it's 48 years from 1975-2023) and pick a certain number of movies from each represent "the best" of that year, maybe 8-10 movies, then invent some sort of seeding; not really sure what that would look like.

But how to pick the best films? The Oscar winner, the box office champ, and then what? Or should it all be ratings on IMDB?

Insight appreciated.

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For selecting, I would do something like this (riffing here so not perfectly thought out, but you will get the idea).

Each year will have 10 movies representing them. The following movies get an automatic bid:

- Top 5 grossing films of the year
- Academy Award Best Picture winner
- Any films on the AFI Top 100
- Any films on the IMDB Top 100 with a minimum of ____ votes (if it was me I'd apply a minimum vote filter -- some really recent ones that don't feel like they belong and a few indies that are apparently VERY beloved by a relatively small group of folks)

Remaining slots are awarded to at-large bids by the committee (that can be you or the entertainment board).

Clearly there will be some overlap for the auto-bids -- sometimes a top 5 grossing film will also be the best picture winner, etc. Just means some years will have more at-large bids than others.




For seeding I'd go by some inflation adjusted box office measurement. Don't know how easy it would be to get the combined box office total for the nominees but that would be my best bet. Won't be perfect but it's determining seeding, not picking winners.

Stay away from highest grossing films. You'll get a bunch of crap like Transformers and POTC sequels that shouldn't part of any best ever discussions.

TXAG 05 said:

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Mr. White said:

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What else came out in 2007 besides No Country for Old Men and There Will Be Blood?

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Superbad
Transformers
Hot Fuzz
300
I am Legend
Walk Hard
Eastern Promises
3:10 to Yuma
Oceans 13
Mr Brooks
Smokin Aces

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And Zodiac. IMO, the best of all of them.

Along with two other classics… Michael Clayton and The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford.

Wicked Good Ag said:

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1939 should be included

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Gone with the Wind and The Wizard of Oz. Tough to beat

DallasTeleAg said:

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Good luck to anything up against 1994.

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This.
Forrest Gump
The Shawshank Redemption
Pulp Fiction

Just to start

Wicked Good Ag said:

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1939 should be included

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Yep. It has no chance at winning but some fantastic films released that year. I realize even highly lauded older cinema is not everyone's cup of tea but many of the films in the link deserve a watch particularly Mr Smith Goes to Washington, Stagecoach, Only Angels Have Wings (the movie where "Judy, Judy, Judy" Cary Grant line is misquoted from) and Ninotchka (a rather fun rom-com).

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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The Porkchop Express said:

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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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The Porkchop Express said:

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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1994 going to the Final Four.

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It's already the #1 overall seed, I can tell that and I'm only about 50 rankings in. It'll be tough to beat.

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1982 beats 1994

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I'm 80 movies in and there hasn't been one 1982 movie yet in the IMDB top 250

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Well, IMDB is wrong then.

Conan the Barbarian, Star Trek II, The Thing, Blade Runner, ET, TRON, Firefox, First Blood all came out in 82.

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…and BeastMaster

TXAG 05 said:

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TMfrisco said:

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DallasTeleAg said:

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Good luck to anything up against 1994.

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This.
Forrest Gump
The Shawshank Redemption
Pulp Fiction

Just to start

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Lion King
The Mask
Dumb and Dumber
Ace Ventura
Speed
True Lies
Wyatt Earp
Maverick

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Quiz Show

Bruce Almighty said:

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Stay away from highest grossing films. You'll get a bunch of crap like Transformers and POTC sequels that shouldn't part of any best ever discussions.

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And eliminate, hmmm, just off the top of my head: Jaws, Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, Raiders of the Lost Ark, ET, Return of the Jedi, Ghostbusters (might be wrong on highest-grossing movie of 84 but think this was it), Batman (1989), oh, I could go on here.

In case you haven't read the thread throughout, I already picked a format. But don't let it stop your debate.

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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Bruce Almighty said:

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Stay away from highest grossing films. You'll get a bunch of crap like Transformers and POTC sequels that shouldn't part of any best ever discussions.

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And eliminate, hmmm, just off the top of my head: Jaws, Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, Raiders of the Lost Ark, ET, Return of the Jedi, Ghostbusters (might be wrong on highest-grossing movie of 84 but think this was it), Batman (1989), oh, I could go on here.

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I'm pretty sure every single movie you listed would be on IMDb's top 10 for their year.

Probably so.

I've started compiling the 10 movies for each year based on the criteria I picked. Hoping to start the tourney mid or near the end of this week, and will not put out new stuff on the weekend.

The mid 1960s have come out swinging with some impressive groups.
'64 includes My Fair Lady, Dr. Strangelove, Fail Safe, A Fistful of Dollars among others
'65 has The Sound of Music, For a Few Dollars More, Dr. Zhivago, Thunderball, the Great Race, etc.

Sort of related to this, I was looking at IMDB last night trying to find an Action movie for us to watch and the all-time Action movie list at IMDB has 5-6 movies from India in the top 20 or so. All look to be war movies. Heard of one of them only because it was posted on here some years back.

Interesting.

'69 and '70 might be the bottom 2 seeds. Neither had a movie with an 8.0 ranking. There are a lot of very weird movies being made at that time.

I think you could have a 1994 1-10 and a 1994 11-20 and 11-20 would still be a top 10 seed. Such an incredible year for movies.

I'll see what it looks like - just the for the interest - but not include in the tourney

#Team1939.
Gone with the Wind is the highest grossing movie ever when adjusted for inflation, and the Wizard of Oz is the most watched movie in history. And they came from the same year. No year can even remotely compare to that, and that's before the dozen or so other quality movies that came out that year. Mr. Smith leading the way.

Fun fact on GWTW, between 1939 and 1940 it sold approximately the same number of tickets in the US as the total US population. The 1940 US pop was around 132 million, and it sold ~130 million tickets in those two years. Even if there were far fewer entertainment choices back then, that's an amazing stat. Star Wars first run sold 138 million against a population of 220 million, and that's easily the biggest blockbuster in my lifetime. For the marvel fans, endgame sold 93 million against a popularion north of 300 million.

That's an all timer just with the top 2.

Do I want to watch Predator over Pulp Fiction, Ace Ventura, Dumb and Dumber, The Mask?

I do not.

You always cheat on these anyway. No surprise.

Can someone do 1995? Looks like there were some great movies that year too.