He has a soft spot for the second/third world. Seems to like the women (and young men) in Brazil/Latin America more as well.

And why is that? You have to remember I play around on here a lot. Don't exactly fit neatly into the DNC/left liberal paradigms.

Because through your musings I would not have taken you for a listener to a somewhat underground divisive right wing figure is all.

Sure. Above all I appreciate intellect, a sense of humor, and good performance. He has all three in spades when very few others do.

Politically, just listen to his disinterest discussing Trump on his latest episode. He knows the partisan political environment, especially at the federal level, is losing tons of eyes and ears. Won't get better in future cycles either, as none of Gavin Newsom, Kamala, Mayor Pete, DeSantis, Vivek, Nikki Haley, etc. have much distinction. Boring or bad orators, mediocre (at best) performers. I bring this up because it mirrors the decline of most traditional media, as we move further into a post-literate society.

Anyway, prefer to not think about that. Would rather focus on Sinner-Alcaraz at RG.

I am surprised you are not annoyed by his use of fa g and disparaging gays. I've listened to several half episodes and it is entertaining but he also suffers slightly from the terminally online talk, mentioning Twitter posts and users and using internet speak which gets annoying, although it isn't overbearing.

Sexual identity is receding in importance. Why? Not quite sure. Regardless, nobody else in media is a combination of articulate, intelligent, and funny when talking about things I care about.

And the online thing. At this point, I'm surprised he uses it so much, especially Twitter. I suppose he sees himself and his friends as those with influence? Who knows. Regardless, the online environment used to be way better. Nearly all of it feels like circling the drain in 2024. Words, images, and sounds that are rarely funny, and rarely carry much meaning either. Same thing with movies and literature though. Almost as though we're waiting for new forms? AR/VR or whatever else.

Don't want to ramble and shouldn't even be up, just lament the loss of intellect in our society. Seems like all of the most intelligent are spergs, quite mentally ill, or have given up altogether. Public figures, to be clear. I don't respect any public figure who isn't a talented writer or orator or entertainer.

Fair enough. It is interesting enough that I am.conaidering shelling out to get access to the full episodes. And to be fair, I would say he does have influence in certain circles.

I think they have a small amount of influence, much less than 2015-16 though. (Just speaking about the within the US.) Their primary issue is that most in that circle are quite introverted and aloof people irl, if not outright hateful towards mostly innocuous people. You're in trouble when someone as dorky and uncharmingly verbose as Curtis Yarvin is a leader in your movement.

But on a wider scale, this is true for many other scenes, as well as the internet altogether. The mass majority of people have given up on it and largely use it to communicate with those they already know, or are way too earnest and uninteresting to affect anything much beyond themselves.

Honestly I dont have enough time to dig in to the whos who of the current dissident right or whatever the hell it is called these days. I dont have the time or energy to be continually outraged by the culture wars, and that's generally all the internet seems to be these days. Don't get me wrong, I will complain about things that show up in my life that I feel are over the top, but I dont necessarily go searching them out. I've made all of 2 comments in my life on Twitter, and never an actual post. Texags is the general extent of my online existence.

Since we are discussing what people are like online these days, I've always thought it was insane how much people would overshare about their lives on social media, but it seems like the zoomer crowd has an affinity for posting their unbelievable Ls. Things you couldn't pay me enough to admit online and they just post it casually as if it is a badge of honor to post the most embarrassing aspects of your life, or things that any normal person would simply not admit publicly. The younger generations didn't know what it was like before the proliferation of the internet so it is obviously normal to them, but it is still mind blowing what I see people say online. I have a guilty pleasure of looking st the XXXX Posting their Ls Twitter pages.

Yeah don't bother. So few of these dissident people can ever voice their opinions irl or write or record/edit them with any intrigue.

The L posting stuff, idk. Most people don't take it all that seriously, though maybe high schoolers and below do. Honestly, I typically only divulge that stuff via text, irl conversations, or letters, and only with close friends/family. So I'm like most people in that regard, though I suppose not with the letter writing. Feels good for some reason.

You'll see that lots of zoomers, much more so than millennials, appreciate a good (masculine) voice and talented oratory abilities. Can't believe how many straight men in their thirties (and many in their twenties) sound so gay/feminine. Unappealing.

I usually listen to Bad Friends Monday mornings at the gym.

This gem from a couple weeks ago in my own words as I remember them:

Bobby Lee: In Korea, the toilet is still a hole in the ground. You look into it and there is an unending mountain of ***** So I asked my grandpa: Young Bobby Lee voice: Grandpa, how long hole been there?

Bobby Lee's Grandpa: One Tousand Year!

Bobby Lee: So I thought to myself, my great great great great great great grandfather's **** is down there. And it's underneath all the other *****

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I've heard that podcast networks and shows are actually pretty damn cheap to set up and run and e-commerce upstarts pretty much just unload dump trucks of money on the ones with bigger name hosts and there's no real signs of that stopping.

Now the ones I think are funny are when random person who is a distant friend or something starts one. I'll always check those out for a laugh when they get shared with me to check out because they are all so bad and dumb. All of them have descriptions about wanting to share their 'interesting' opinions and try to do it in a funny way and the vast majority are just recyclings of the latest YouTube shorts from Rogan or some other popular podcast.

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most signs pointing to that having already stopped. Spotify and the like were trying to buy listeners/market share then realized it's really tough to make money on podcasts.

https://techcrunch.com/2023/12/07/spotify-layoffs-podcast-industry-fallout/

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Rogan is the biggest one out there and even his gets repetitive at times.

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I quit listening pre-Spotify when it was just his comedy friends, MMA and Weed.

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I never listen to an episode when it's MMA or a comedian.

He used to have quite the variety of guests. But since he opened the comedy mothership, it's become very comedian heavy.

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But yes, he's more or less an unabashed racist. Easy to ignore that stuff, at least it is for me.

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This really grabbed my eye. People are so desperate for confirmation bias, hungry to listen someone espouse so many ideas they themselves already believe, they can even look past that person being a racist to get their fix.

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Capybara said:

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But yes, he's more or less an unabashed racist. Easy to ignore that stuff, at least it is for me.

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This really grabbed my eye. People are so desperate for confirmation bias, hungry to listen someone espouse so many ideas they themselves already believe, they can even look past that person being a racist to get their fix.

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You're a dullard. It should be clear from perusing my profile that I disagree with much of what he believes, or proclaims to believe. I read and listen to his stuff because it stimulates: he's articulate, intelligent, and performs with distinctive style. In this context, yes the racism is easy to set aside. In a place like F16, you just roll your eyes.

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Capybara said:

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But yes, he's more or less an unabashed racist. Easy to ignore that stuff, at least it is for me.

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This really grabbed my eye. People are so desperate for confirmation bias, hungry to listen someone espouse so many ideas they themselves already believe, they can even look past that person being a racist to get their fix.

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You're a dullard. It should be clear from perusing my profile that I disagree with much of what he believes, or proclaims to believe. I read and listen to his stuff because it stimulates: he's articulate, intelligent, and performs with distinctive style. In this context, yes the racism is easy to set aside. In a place like F16, you just roll your eyes.

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Ah, the intelligent racist.


I've been assuming you are using the word "racist" correctly, per its actual definition, when describing the guy you say is intelligent and like listening to.

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Complete Idiot said:

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But yes, he's more or less an unabashed racist. Easy to ignore that stuff, at least it is for me.

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This really grabbed my eye. People are so desperate for confirmation bias, hungry to listen someone espouse so many ideas they themselves already believe, they can even look past that person being a racist to get their fix.

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You're a dullard. It should be clear from perusing my profile that I disagree with much of what he believes, or proclaims to believe. I read and listen to his stuff because it stimulates: he's articulate, intelligent, and performs with distinctive style. In this context, yes the racism is easy to set aside. In a place like F16, you just roll your eyes.

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Ah, the intelligent racist.


I've been assuming you are using the word "racist" correctly, per its actual definition, when describing the guy you say is intelligent and like listening to.

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Your perspective is inferior. Yes, intelligent people can be racist. And yes, they mean much more to me than ordinary (or stupid) racists.

I would never limit understanding or stimulation merely because a big meanie is aiding this process. Nor should any person legitimately interested in the world, rather than his own corner of it.

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Rogan is the biggest one out there and even his gets repetitive at times.

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I quit listening pre-Spotify when it was just his comedy friends, MMA and Weed.

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I never listen to an episode when it's MMA or a comedian.

He used to have quite the variety of guests. But since he opened the comedy mothership, it's become very comedian heavy.

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I e never finished an MMA episode. Just don't care enough.

There are some comedian repeats I can hang through. Dillon and Schultz. Smith if you include him but he's way more political.

Protect our Parks is dumb but I enjoy them getting stupider as the episodes go.

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Complete Idiot said:

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Capybara said:

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But yes, he's more or less an unabashed racist. Easy to ignore that stuff, at least it is for me.

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This really grabbed my eye. People are so desperate for confirmation bias, hungry to listen someone espouse so many ideas they themselves already believe, they can even look past that person being a racist to get their fix.

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You're a dullard. It should be clear from perusing my profile that I disagree with much of what he believes, or proclaims to believe. I read and listen to his stuff because it stimulates: he's articulate, intelligent, and performs with distinctive style. In this context, yes the racism is easy to set aside. In a place like F16, you just roll your eyes.

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Ah, the intelligent racist.


I've been assuming you are using the word "racist" correctly, per its actual definition, when describing the guy you say is intelligent and like listening to.

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I do think something does exist if possible. I'm not talking Richard Spencer or Nick Fuentes at all. Scummy grifters.

For some reason Steve Sailer appeared on two podcasts this week I subscribe to and I went and googled him anfter the first… and it said every terrible thing in the book about him associating with white supremacy. But his conversation just really leaned into dispassionate facts and Statistics about differences in races. Most of it was based on what can be done to fix the existing gaps, viewing all as Americans and neighbors.

He could actually be a raging racist and a horrible person but I didnt get that impression until the SLPC told me so