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Brian Earl Spilner
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2024/09/20/lost-tv-show-20th-anniversary-legacy/75253596007/
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20 year anniversary is crazy to think about.

I watched the pilot live, and there was a VCR involved for later episodes that season.

By season 3, all the friends were coming over at 9PM, because I was the only one that had a DVR, and we had stuff earlier than that.

What a time to be alive.
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My favorite era of dramatic TV- lost ran 2004-2010, Battlestar Galactica ran 2004-2009 and the shield ran 2002-2008. One of my kids asked when she could start watching the shield and I said, maybe when you're like 25.
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I just got to the first of the Desmond Penny episodes with the time stuff in season 3, and my love for this show came roaring back.
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Watched one I didn't remember from before - Hurley cons Sawyer into being nice to everyone.

#1 sign you know a dude's running this show: Kate and Juliet handcuffed together in the jungle, then it starts pouring rain, then they fall in the mud.
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I watched this the other day, and left with many questions of what is this gigantic warehouse and who is paying for it 15 years later and why tf have they just not sold that van off for some charity benefit?
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Kids and I watched the first half of Through the Looking Glass, the Season 3 finale just now. Neither thought twice about when the Jack non-flashback flashback was going on. Both terrified that Sayid / Bernard / Jin were going to get killed. Both over the moon when Walt showed up at the end.

Love this final version of Charlie, self assured and hilarious, accepting his fate. Basically being the person he's always wanted to be while being perpetual second fiddle to his brother, to Jack, to Locke, etc. He and Desmond are a really good pair here at the end after being at loggerheads with each other.

Pretty awesome watching two kids who weren't even alive during the final season walking upstairs to go to bed, talking back and forth about their theories of what's happening next.

I'm 24 hours away from my 1-2 punch of Sayid snapping the dude's neck with his legs and Sawyer killing Mr. Friendly, "That's for taking the kid off the boat."
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Still the best season finale of that whole show.

And you know ****'s getting real when Giacchino drops this in, usually in finales...

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I'm going to see if I can take notes n my laptop of their reactions during the last part of Season 3 tonight and maybe post the good parts here.

Other than Michael killing Ana Lucia and Libby, the most confused, stressed moment they've had was last night where Jack kissed Juliet goodbye on the way to the radio tower, but then a few moments later told Kate that he loved her.

A really hilarious reaction by two 7th graders. Hands thrown in the air, angry reactions.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:



So many items I'd love to possess:

-Hugo lottery ticket
-backgammon game
-John locke compass
-John locke smoke monster child picture
-I'd wear the crap out of a darma jacket
-I'd even want the dumbass kate toy plane
-Heroin Mary Statue

I'm sure I'm forgetting a bunch of cool things.
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Moral High Horse said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:



So many items I'd love to possess:

-Hugo lottery ticket
-backgammon game
-John locke compass
-John locke smoke monster child picture
-I'd wear the crap out of a darma jacket
-I'd even want the dumbass kate toy plane
-Heroin Mary Statue

I'm sure I'm forgetting a bunch of cool things.
Charlie's DriveShaft ring.

The sign that flashed the numbers in the hatch.

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Echo's stick
Darma worksuit
Kate's shirt full of bees.
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My favorite part of the last episode

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Kids and I watched the second half of the Season 3 finale. Some highlights

Twin A broke down crying when Rousseau finally met Alex.

Both were crushed when they though Sayid / Jin / Bernard were killed by Tom

Both are terrified / hate Ben LInus.

Both fell for the emotion the show is trying to give you when Desmond tells Charlie he doesn't have any more flashes and you are meant to believe that Desmond diving down is thus saving Charlie's fate.

The sequence I posted above was met with a roar of delight. Hurley is both girls' favorite character, so Hurley to the rescue is about as good as it gets.

We rewatched Sayid snapping the guy's neck with his feet - Twin B wanted to recreate that on Twin A, but I discouraged it, and Sawyer murdering Tom Friendly. Didn't ever really think of this previously, but Tom shoots Sawyer before they ultimately leave with Walt. But when he kills Tom, Sawyer doesn't say, "This is for shooting me." He says, "This is for taking the kid off the boat." Pretty cool stuff there.

Both exasperated by Locke, who they really have liked. Unfortunately, that Locke is just about gone as we head for Season 4.

Both through the roof to see Penny, then confused by her not knowing Naomi, then the heartbreak sets in when they see Charlie slamming the door shut to save Desmond's life.

Random - funeral director is ultimate character actor Nigel Gibbs, who is also in Better Call Saul, Breaking Bad, and about 500 other shoes, almost always as a cop or a military officer.

The end just floored them, as it floored all of us 17-18 years ago. Neither could figure out how Jack and Kate knew each other before the island. When I told them it wasn't a flashback, the jaws hung open for a while.

Really great fun watching it with them.

Twin A is convinced that Kate has chosen Sawyer over that Jack and that's what she means when she says "he's going to wonder where I am" in the flash-forward.

Almost thought about telling them that Sawyer falls in love with Juliet and the time travel back to the 1970s, but not sure if they'd even believe me
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Quote:

Neither could figure out how Jack and Kate knew each other before the island


Glad I wasn't the only one this happened to. It came SO far out of left field that it took me a solid 5 seconds to realize what was happening.

Gotta be one of the 5 best twists in tv history.

If it were me I would have let them figure it out to see how long it took them.
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My favorite was all of them.

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Oh, to be 12 again ...

My more problematic child had to sit out a few episodes of Season 1 during the summer after blatantly lying and reading ahead all the synopses on Netflix up to Season 3. She had previously been severely reprimanded for spoiling enormous parts of Stranger Things to her sister. She was allowed to keep watching Lost only after swearing no more spoiler attempts.

We are now 3 episodes into Season 4.

Well a few days ago she tells me that she's listening to a Lost podcast, but that it only covers "Seasons 1-3" which sounds like the textbook example of "Lie that sounds good in your head when you're 12 but makes no sense to an adult."

A couple of days later, she asks me a bizarre question - "Is it Christmas on the island yet?" which is mighty suspicious considering a few episodes from now Desmond will call Penny on Christmas Eve in "The Constant".

Then during the second episode of season 4 that we watched on Sunday, when Faraday lands on the island, she blurts out "OH MY GOD IS THAT GEORGE MINKOWSKI?"

George being the voice that Jack talks to on the sat phone at the end of Season 3. Other than that, you haven't met him or heard his voice or know anything about him - unless you're listening to a spoiler-filled podcast.

Then at the end of that same episode, Ben saves his skin by revealing Charlotte's information and says "Because I have a spy on the boat." The worst liar ever says out loud, "Oh wow, I wonder if it's Michael?" - yet another thing you've never guess on your own, having not seen Michael in the last 24 episodes.

I warned her after that about listening to spoilers on a podcast, which she of course vehemently denied.

Yesterday was the coup de grace. On our way home from an appointment she blurts out in the car, "Wouldn't it be crazy if the smoke monster could turn into a person?"

That pretty much sealed the deal. While the 3 of us were eating dinner and talking about the show, I casually asked her what was the craziest spoiler she had heard on the podcast and she quickly said, "Probably the smoke monster" and then came to a dead stop with her mouth hanging open in shock that she had ratted herself out.

Punishment pending ...
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Take some punishment inspiration from Nikki and Paulo. Either having to sleep with a spider in a jar in the room, or only allowed to watch that episode over and over should be good enough punishment. Either that or breakfast cooking responsibility until she has mastered the art of "really good eggs."
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What if she stays one step ahead of you and self bans herself from watching with the family?

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Canyon Lake Agbu94 said:

Take some punishment inspiration from Nikki and Paulo. Either having to sleep with a spider in a jar in the room, or only allowed to watch that episode over and over should be good enough punishment. Either that or breakfast cooking responsibility until she has mastered the art of "really good eggs."
Well the spider would just end up being put under the door in her sister's room, and since she has an egg allergy, I think death might be too harsh a punishment.

Changing the cat box "basically forever" is Step 1. Folding everyone's laundry for a month is Step 2.
Mentioning any more spoilers means taking that episode off. That's probably my biggest weapon in the arsenal right now.
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I am about to close out season 5 with the incident parts 1 and 2.
It really is remarkable how little I remember of this. Like I said in the west wing thread, it's really only the very high level plot lines here that I remember. I guess it's because the characters were all over the place in their weird story lines, motivations, locations, relationships, alliances etc. but I didn't even remember the big Faraday episode I just watched, and that's a big deal for the show.
I could probably write a novel on all my observations, good and bad (and there are things that annoy more this time around). But the fact that I am still watching after 100 episodes says a lot. Ben Linus is still one of my favorite all time TV characters.
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Watched Eggtown tonight - Kate on trial and the big reveal that she's got Aaron at the end. My kids love Claire, both think she's going to die now.

The Constant is next!
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The thing that always perplexed me about the constant was why Charlie, of all the people who died or were written out in in the first five seasons, basically got a multi episode send off and a heroic goodbye.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Cause he was a pretty big character?
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The Porkchop Express said:



The Constant is next!



They are in for a treat with The Constant. Enjoy!!
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Spoilers if anyone is in first watch but…

The two chicks that got shot in the hatch I kinda get, they both basically got fired for drunk driving. Kinda dirty how they killed them together, seemed kinda spiteful.

But Shannon was a central figure until she got unceremoniously shot and written out. Her brother as well. Walt was basically just gone one day. Michael they turned into a villain (in the name of his son) to get him off, though he did come back for a small redemptive arc. I don't even remember now how Eko went. Claire disappeared for like a full season with about 30 seconds of set up.
But Charlie got the whole hero arc. Just weird to me.
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oragator said:

The thing that always perplexed me about the constant was why Charlie, of all the people who died or were written out in in the first five seasons, basically got a multi episode send off and a heroic goodbye.
Dominic Monahan was a pretty big name actor back then coming off a great performance in LOTR. Watching it again, it's fascinating how many times they tease you back that he's going to survive because of his or Desmond's actions.

He was one of my favorites the third time through; he's constantly trying to be assertive or a leader or a provider and fails constantly, until he stops worrying about how he looks and just starts doing the right thing.

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oragator said:

Spoilers if anyone is in first watch but…

The two chicks that got shot in the hatch I kinda get, they both basically got fired for drunk driving. Kinda dirty how they killed them together, seemed kinda spiteful.

But Shannon was a central figure until she got unceremoniously shot and written out. Her brother as well. Walt was basically just gone one day. Michael they turned into a villain (in the name of his son) to get him off, though he did come back for a small redemptive arc. I don't even remember now how Eko went. Claire disappeared for like a full season with about 30 seconds of set up.
But Charlie got the whole hero arc. Just weird to me.
The guy who played Eko wanted to direct a movie back in England and opted to take the movie over acting.

Shannon and Boone were like Ken and Barbie, neither was bringing much to the show other than the good looks and the uncomfortable near incest.
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Charlie was a lead character just like Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Hurley, etc.

If any of them had died they'd have an equally important sendoff.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Eh, step siblings is not real incest.
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I just finished the rewatch. First time I've ever gone back and watched a show all the way through again like this.

I liked the finale when I watched it the first time, but I liked it even better this second time. There is so much in it,, for me one of the best finales ever. Fight me.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Accurate.
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Best TV show ever? No. It began to flail
Best pilot ever? It's up there

Kate was the hottest
Sawyer was my favorite

I did initially have Jack as my favorite but Sawyer became so likeable
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The Porkchop Express said:

oragator said:

The thing that always perplexed me about the constant was why Charlie, of all the people who died or were written out in in the first five seasons, basically got a multi episode send off and a heroic goodbye.
Dominic Monahan was a pretty big name actor back then coming off a great performance in LOTR. Watching it again, it's fascinating how many times they tease you back that he's going to survive because of his or Desmond's actions.

He was one of my favorites the third time through; he's constantly trying to be assertive or a leader or a provider and fails constantly, until he stops worrying about how he looks and just starts doing the right thing.
One day, I was driving home from work in El Segundo and just north of Santa Monica, on La Brea, I saw Dominic Monaghan walking down the street.

I was in a hurry to get home but I did say to myself - hey, that was Charlie from LOST.
 
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