Absolutely. I am sure when we figure it out it may have been staring is in the face the whole time, but looking forward to the reveal.

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I hope Guy Ritchie makes more TV. Between this and The Gentlemen he's made great TV shows in back to back years.

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Is this better than the movie?

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Yes. Absolutely.

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You were right. The movie was good, the series is great. I'm halfway through episode 3. Guy Ritchie can really tell a story.

He's at his best when he's in his genre like The Gentlemen and can go from a relatively tame situation to totally off the rails in like 30 seconds.

We finally had the chance to watch it this afternoon. What a great episode.

DannyD, I think you are 100% right about Maeve, her plan and her motivation. Get H out of the way, take out Richie and take over the Fentanyl trade. She's greedy, ambitious and absolutely nuts.

I think she tipped off the cops about Archie and is using that to undermine Conrad's faith in H. She's also using his work with Richie to solve the missing kid problem to throw doubt on him. Surely she'll start asking Conrad how H got the weapons into the house.

What is the motivation for H. bringing up the guard that assaulted Kevin and reminding him of some serious trauma? Is he going to use Kevin to kill the man, or to let him find some satisfaction in getting revenge?

What day does the new episode come out?

Mondays

Thanks

Yeah, I get the feeling Harry genuinely cares for Kevin and knows that he'd welcome the chance to deliver "justice" and get some release from his trauma.

Just caught up...Great series! Hate that I'm caught up.

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I need to go back and watch this from the beginning. I've seen all the episodes but it's been stop and start on a couple of them and it's a challenge keeping up with who is who.

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Went back and watched all episodes yesterday. Turns out I skipped a complete episode (No. 3) in addition to not paying close enough attention to several scenes.

Got it all figured out now. This is a great show.

One thing I did miss was the relationship between Harry and Kevin's wife, and the hotel scene. What was Harry giving her? I think he said something about how he was now done with whatever, but she said something like, you are out when we say you are out.

Can someone fill me in on what I missed?

In an earlier episode she'd asked Harry for help with the situation with the Frenchman who wanted her father to pull some strings, she had recorded the meeting where her father said he could introduce them to government officials for some kind of compensation then the Frenchman kept the recording. Harry gave her the flash drive that he took from him when he visited his hotel room ("Do you like hospital food?").

Ahhh ok. I totally forgot about that plot line. Thanks

Episode 6 was another good one.

Didn't expect Conrad to take ownership of the situation during the family meeting. Wasn't expecting that phone call with Richie

Maeve showing more signs that she may be the devil.

Was that the mexican cartel that attacked Seraphina and Brendans deal?

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Episode 6 was another good one.

Didn't expect Conrad to take ownership of the situation during the family meeting. Wasn't expecting that phone call with Richie

Maeve showing more signs that she may be the devil.

Was that the mexican cartel that attacked Seraphina and Brendans deal?

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Crazy episode, went by too fast. I was kind of wondering the same thing.

And yes, Maeve is terrifying.

I believe it was supposed to be the Mexican cartel. Not sure who else it would be, but the timing seemed a little weird. I am not sure how much time passed, but I don't know how a full Mexican cartel SWAT team beats Harry to the location when he had a head start on a helicopter.

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I believe it was supposed to be the Mexican cartel. Not sure who else it would be, but the timing seemed a little weird. I am not sure how much time passed, but I don't know how a full Mexican cartel SWAT team beats Henry to the location when he had a head start on a helicopter.

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Yeah I'd like an explanation for this as well. Do they have embedded cells waiting on standby in various parts of Europe or something? That seemed weird.

Kind of funny though...as someone who follows cartel and border violence as somewhat of a side hobby, no way cartel thugs would be this clean/badass/tactical IRL. I know, none of it's real...but that's a bigger plothole to me .

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Episode 6 was another good one.

Didn't expect Conrad to take ownership of the situation during the family meeting. Wasn't expecting that phone call with Richie

Maeve showing more signs that she may be the devil.

Was that the mexican cartel that attacked Seraphina and Brendans deal?

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Crazy episode, went by too fast. I was kind of wondering the same thing.

And yes, Maeve is terrifying.

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It was Richie's crew acting on the intel Maeve gave them (giving up Seraphina in order to save Brendan).

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Episode 6 was another good one.

Didn't expect Conrad to take ownership of the situation during the family meeting. Wasn't expecting that phone call with Richie

Maeve showing more signs that she may be the devil.

Was that the mexican cartel that attacked Seraphina and Brendans deal?

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Crazy episode, went by too fast. I was kind of wondering the same thing.

And yes, Maeve is terrifying.

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It was Richie's crew acting on the intel Maeve gave them (giving up Seraphina in order to save Brendan).

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That probably makes more sense...still very quick. I was tired and may need to watch the later part again.

But how did they know the exact location of Seraphina and get there much quicker than Harry? They didn't get any location intel from Maeve.

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But how did they know the exact location of Seraphina and get there much quicker than Harry? They didn't get any location intel from Maeve.

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I wonder if maybe they have been under surveillance tracking for longer than we realize?

Their family, and Harry, are always clowning on how hapless they are.

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Episode 6 was another good one.

Didn't expect Conrad to take ownership of the situation during the family meeting. Wasn't expecting that phone call with Richie

Maeve showing more signs that she may be the devil.

Was that the mexican cartel that attacked Seraphina and Brendans deal?

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Crazy episode, went by too fast. I was kind of wondering the same thing.

And yes, Maeve is terrifying.

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Thoughts on why Conrad took ownership on the approval to blow up Richie's wife? To make the family believe he is the one in control during the family meeting & not Maeve?

I think everyone knows that came from Maeve.

Richie was tipped off by Maeve, and said 'call the Mexicans'. I didnt really take it as a group of cartel gangsters...but just a crew sent in sent in by the Mexicans. If they're supplying 'half the worlds fentanyl', I'd assume they'd have the means to call in a crew.

But what is Maeve's goal there? To kill one/both of Seraphina and Brendan, or to kill Harry?

She mentioned sacrificing a pawn, to win the war? I'm curious to see how killing them would help win the war; they're ancillary to the situation, and Conrad is all-in already...so it wasn't to push him along.

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Thoughts on why Conrad took ownership on the approval to blow up Richie's wife? To make the family believe he is the one in control during the family meeting & not Maeve?

I think everyone knows that came from Maeve.

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I kind of thought that too at first...but I think it was Conrad.

He explained why he did it, and when he mentioned preparing for the possibility, Paul was behind him confirming everything. All that to say, it's definitely obvious Maeve was pushing for it

Yeah, Conrad said he had the bomb planted before they even attended the funeral. Although, I seem to recall that Conrad said it was all his idea to kill Archie initially. It wasn't until later that he said he got the idea from Maeve. I could be misremembering though, that was before I learned to put subtitles on.

She wanted them to kill Sarephina and threatened Richie if he hurt the idiot older brother. Maeve despises Sarephina and what she represents, so this was a convenient way to get her killed. I don't think this had anything to do with Harry.

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She wanted them to kill Sarephina and threatened Richie if he hurt the idiot older brother. Maeve despises Sarephina and what she represents, so this was a convenient way to get her killed. I don't think this had anything to do with Harry.

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Gotcha.

So you think she was just being opportunist, to get rid of Saraphina, or moving the pieces around for another reason?

I think Maeve is trying to play both sides as much as she can.

She knows there's no guarantee that the Harrigans come out on top of all this so she's hedging her bets, she also hates Seraphina so doesn't mind sacrificing her so it's an easy "win".

That said, I don't know that Brenden gets out of this unscathed (and what a dislikable character, geez). I hope we get more details on what he did in the Heathrow airport terminal at some point

I think Maeve is looking to have Seraphina killed due to hatred and jealousy, and wants Harry out of the way because he is totally loyal to Conrad and wouldn't put up with Eddie. Don't forget how she was manipulating Conrad to hold Harry responsible for Archie's body being found due to an anonymous source. If the ops can't get Harry, she can get him killed via Richie's gang.

Any thought to Harry switching sides?