Was a good watch, but the culprit was just, #1) holy **** and #2) what a load of BS for the reason.

I guess at the very beginning it was the mom but then convinced myself no way she would be in the show doing interviews. So I changed my guess to being an offshore extortion attempt to try to get money out of them to make it stop.

Then the end happened and holy hell. I have to think they daughter was in on it somehow and the mom took the fall.

Mom was making tons of excuses for her pathetic actions. She's got severe mental issues and I feel for her daughter.

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At the end of the doc, were Khloe's parents insinuating that the victim and her father might also be in on it? Maybe I didn't hear that correctly.

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Yes. Though I understand their resentment because her daughter was a suspect for a while, I think the facts regarding the aftermath show they had nothing to do with this. They can't accept the fact that this lady has severe mental health problems.

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Mom was making tons of excuses for her pathetic actions. She's got severe mental issues and I feel for her daughter.

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Someone called it Cyber Munchausen's, and that's the most accurate description.

HTownAg98 said:

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JB said:

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At the end of the doc, were Khloe's parents insinuating that the victim and her father might also be in on it? Maybe I didn't hear that correctly.

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Yes. Though I understand their resentment because her daughter was a suspect for a while, I think the facts regarding the aftermath show they had nothing to do with this. They can't accept the fact that this lady has severe mental health problems.

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Wife and watched it. Pretty well done IMO.

I think the daughter was just incapable of processing what her mom did. I think the dad was relieved to be rid of her.

What I can't understand is how little prison time she did. I would have put her away for 20 years.

HTownAg98 said:

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Someone called it Cyber Munchausen's, and that's the most accurate description.

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I think that was the school superintendent. I do wonder if she also had a thing for the teenage boy. Severely disturbed woman. Feel bad for the daughter, and it seems like she's still falling for her mom's manipulation.

Urban Ag said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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JB said:

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At the end of the doc, were Khloe's parents insinuating that the victim and her father might also be in on it? Maybe I didn't hear that correctly.

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Yes. Though I understand their resentment because her daughter was a suspect for a while, I think the facts regarding the aftermath show they had nothing to do with this. They can't accept the fact that this lady has severe mental health problems.

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Wife and watched it. Pretty well done IMO.

I think the daughter was just incapable of processing what her mom did. I think the dad was relieved to be rid of her.

What I can't understand is how little prison time she did. I would have put her away for 20 years.

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The daughter being in on it would make her reactions make more sense. I thought the weirdest thing was how the daughter didn't seem to hold any ill will toward the mom. And even more strange was her reaction (or lack thereof) when the cops came to the house and she found out it was her Mom all along. She was just consoling the mom and hugging her and not surprised or mad at all. I would think she'd be flying off the handle or at least asking questions or crying when she found out. There was none of that, almost like she already knew.

I mean, everybody breaks the law. Have you ever gone over the speed limit? The difference is you just didn't get caught /paraphrasing

mavsfan4ever said:

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Urban Ag said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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JB said:

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At the end of the doc, were Khloe's parents insinuating that the victim and her father might also be in on it? Maybe I didn't hear that correctly.

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Yes. Though I understand their resentment because her daughter was a suspect for a while, I think the facts regarding the aftermath show they had nothing to do with this. They can't accept the fact that this lady has severe mental health problems.

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Wife and watched it. Pretty well done IMO.

I think the daughter was just incapable of processing what her mom did. I think the dad was relieved to be rid of her.

What I can't understand is how little prison time she did. I would have put her away for 20 years.

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The daughter being in on it would make her reactions make more sense. I thought the weirdest thing was how the daughter didn't seem to hold any ill will toward the mom. And even more strange was her reaction (or lack thereof) when the cops came to the house and she found out it was her Mom all along. She was just consoling the mom and hugging her and not surprised or mad at all. I would think she'd be flying off the handle or at least asking questions or crying when she found out. There was none of that, almost like she already knew.

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I don't think she knew what was going on at all in that moment. The cops were being pretty vague and didn't exactly come out and say "hey, your mom is the one telling you to off yourself"

This was a crazy watch. That mother is the pure definition of BSC

What was the deal with the whole entire table covered in liquor bottles at their house?

There's definitely some missing elements to the whole story here but mom is so stunningly crazy. Wild that she won't even admit to it all or give better answers

Kendra is why Trump should bring back nut houses.

Whatever "help" she got after prison isn't working. At all.

I don't really see the "she knew her mom was doing it/in on it" angle at all.

She is a master manipulator and had the tools to do it. It was mom and her daughter is still young, manipulative, and has been manipulated her whole life by a master manipulator. Her reaction of wanting to still have a relationship makes sense.

Hopefully as she ages she'll continue to see how strong dad was throughout everything

The Dad must have been a complete Beta simp. How do you let your wife handle 100% of the finances and don't catch on that she got fired a year and a half ago and had no income and she wasn't paying the mortgage for a year? Was the crazy wife just giving him an allowance every week or what? How can you not notice that your wife wasn't actually going to work?

HTownAg98 said:

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Canyon99 said:

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Mom was making tons of excuses for her pathetic actions. She's got severe mental issues and I feel for her daughter.

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Someone called it Cyber Munchausen's, and that's the most accurate description.

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My wife and I watched this last night and it was bonkers. I was thinking Munchausen's as well because it felt like she was bored with her sad little life and this kept her in the spotlight since it was her daughter so she always had someone to talk to and someone that was interested in what was going on. The angle with the boyfriend was disturbing as well, perhaps this woman was also infatuated with her daughter's boyfriend and sought to destroy that but kept harassing her own daughter to keep her relevance going. The woman is a complete sociopath and took no responsibility.

Almost equally disturbing is her daughter not completely rejecting her when the reveal happens. Why was she so calm after finding out what her mom did and talking to her all the time while she was in prison? Does she not have any empathy for the other families her mother basically destroyed by allowing their children to be treated as suspects? Her ex-boyfriends cousin had her mental health basically ruined, maybe for life, by this whole thing. Call me crazy but if you found out after almost 2 years of constant harassment that the FBI investigates and figures out it's your own mother, how does that not cause a complete psychological breakdown of a high school aged girl? I have a tough time believing the daughter didn't know something was up and it also might explain why the mother seems to have some sense of righteousness about this whole ordeal. Something about this doesn't add up to me.

She needs to have done more to explain how she went from sending creepy texts to break up her daughter's relationship with the boyfriend to bullying her to commit suicide. She was literally egging her on to off herself after she already managed to get them to split up. She was a complete sociopath.

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She needs to have done more to explain how she went from sending creepy texts to break up her daughter's relationship with the boyfriend to bullying her to commit suicide. She was literally egging her on to off herself after she already managed to get them to split up. She was a complete sociopath.

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The simplest answer is the most obvious. The mom is literally a BSC sociopath. They exist. Trust me I know. My wife has an older sister that should have been committed a couple of decades ago. I don't allow this woman in our house. On the day her daughter turned 18 she walked out the door and hasn't spoke to her since. That was over seven years ago. My SIL literally lives to manipulate and destroy lives. Total psycho. This woman is in her mid 50's, lives alone in a crap apartment with her cat, has no money, no man, no assets, and a crap job. Twice divorced and engaged another five times. She's literally destroyed everything she has ever touched.

They really do exist.

So she's single, eh?

Hmmm…nah. She sounds too much like the kind of lady who would have a tattoo of a dagger on her body, and I know to stay away from that type.

GrapevineAg said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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Someone called it Cyber Munchausen's, and that's the most accurate description.

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I think that was the school superintendent. I do wonder if she also had a thing for the teenage boy. Severely disturbed woman. Feel bad for the daughter, and it seems like she's still falling for her mom's manipulation.

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The show hinted at that. There was something about how when the boyfriend was over at their house, the mom would cut his food for him. Creepy...

mavsfan4ever said:

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Urban Ag said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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JB said:

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At the end of the doc, were Khloe's parents insinuating that the victim and her father might also be in on it? Maybe I didn't hear that correctly.

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Yes. Though I understand their resentment because her daughter was a suspect for a while, I think the facts regarding the aftermath show they had nothing to do with this. They can't accept the fact that this lady has severe mental health problems.

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Wife and watched it. Pretty well done IMO.

I think the daughter was just incapable of processing what her mom did. I think the dad was relieved to be rid of her.

What I can't understand is how little prison time she did. I would have put her away for 20 years.

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The daughter being in on it would make her reactions make more sense. I thought the weirdest thing was how the daughter didn't seem to hold any ill will toward the mom. And even more strange was her reaction (or lack thereof) when the cops came to the house and she found out it was her Mom all along. She was just consoling the mom and hugging her and not surprised or mad at all. I would think she'd be flying off the handle or at least asking questions or crying when she found out. There was none of that, almost like she already knew.

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If anyone has or knows someone who has had a parent that has done something extraordinarily wrong or even evil to their child… it never ceases to amaze me the natural human desire to have a relationship with your biological parents, even if they have done unforgivable things. It's usually bad for their mental health to try to maintain a relationship., but I have seen it firsthand

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The Dad must have been a complete Beta simp. How do you let your wife handle 100% of the finances and don't catch on that she got fired a year and a half ago and had no income and she wasn't paying the mortgage for a year? Was the crazy wife just giving him an allowance every week or what? How can you not notice that your wife wasn't actually going to work?

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Easier than you know. If you work all the time or bury your head in the sand, you won't notice.

My wife was married in Florida like 2 years before we met. She dated, married, and stayed with a guy for about 4 years where he claimed to be a nurse and handled the finances… turned out he forged a college degree, faked a SSN, lied about his whole life, wasn't paying bills and racked up debt in her name, etc. She went to surprise him at work with a lunch date like a year into their marriage and they had no record of him there, which started a chain reaction that led to the instant divorce. Prior to that he always said he was a nurse in surgery or things like that to where there was no need for a spouse to go there. She worked 50+ hours a week at the time so easy to not see something in plain sight.

I can't say for sure the dad knew, but there is definitely something off about him. First off, the wife handles the finances, doesn't pay the rent so you get evicted, then doesn't pay your storage locker, so you lose all your stuff, and you still let her handle the finances? Second, when the cop talks to him on the front porch and tells him that they are taking his wife's phone, he immediately says, "Which one?" He already said they were having financial problems, but she's got two cell phones? Wouldn't you cancel one? The only reason I think he might not have known, is the wife doesn't seem like the kind of person who would take the blame herself. If they were in on it together, she absolutely would have thrown him under the bus. He may not have known, but he definitely had suspicions. When the cop said it was her, he didn't question it all. He was kind of like, "Yeah... Makes sense."

I can see the Daughter still not really accepting it, though, especially since she's close to the mom.

I do think the cop and principal did pretty bad jobs. Are reading the first sets of texts, I would have immediately told the families they needed to take it to the police. It's bigger than a school matter. Then the cop takes almost two years before bringing in the FBI? It seems like the FBI agent figured it out pretty quick by doing the basic things any cop should have done (ie subpoena records). The cop just went around asking, "Did you do this? No? Are you lying? No.... welp, I'm out of questions."