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In reply to ttaggie • 10:55p, 9/4/25
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Urban Ag said:
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At the end of the doc, were Khloe's parents insinuating that the victim and her father might also be in on it? Maybe I didn't hear that correctly.

Yes. Though I understand their resentment because her daughter was a suspect for a while, I think the facts regarding the aftermath show they had nothing to do with this. They can't accept the fact that this lady has severe mental health problems.

Wife and watched it. Pretty well done IMO.

I think the daughter was just incapable of processing what her mom did. I think the dad was relieved to be rid of her.

What I can't understand is how little prison time she did. I would have put her away for 20 years.

The daughter being in on it would make her reactions make more sense. I thought the weirdest thing was how the daughter didn't seem to hold any ill will toward the mom. And even more strange was her reaction (or lack thereof) when the cops came to the house and she found out it was her Mom all along. She was just consoling the mom and hugging her and not surprised or mad at all. I would think she'd be flying off the handle or at least asking questions or crying when she found out. There was none of that, almost like she already knew.


If anyone has or knows someone who has had a parent that has done something extraordinarily wrong or even evil to their child… it never ceases to amaze me the natural human desire to have a relationship with your biological parents, even if they have done unforgivable things. It's usually bad for their mental health to try to maintain a relationship., but I have seen it firsthand


Can confirm.
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In reply to bonfarr • 11:23p, 9/4/25
I don't think that is that unbelievable. OP in the thread below is in charge of finances, but can't stop his wife from spending money they don't have. If someone doesn't have passwords to bank accounts or visibility, ignorance is bliss, and why wouldn't you trust your own wife?

https://texags.com/forums/12/topics/3542881/1
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In reply to El Gallo Blanco • 1:13a, 9/5/25
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She needs to have done more to explain how she went from sending creepy texts to break up her daughter's relationship with the boyfriend to bullying her to commit suicide. She was literally egging her on to off herself after she already managed to get them to split up. She was a complete sociopath.

The simplest answer is the most obvious. The mom is literally a BSC sociopath. They exist. Trust me I know. My wife has an older sister that should have been committed a couple of decades ago. I don't allow this woman in our house. On the day her daughter turned 18 she walked out the door and hasn't spoke to her since. That was over seven years ago. My SIL literally lives to manipulate and destroy lives. Total psycho. This woman is in her mid 50's, lives alone in a crap apartment with her cat, has no money, no man, no assets, and a crap job. Twice divorced and engaged another five times. She's literally destroyed everything she has ever touched.

They really do exist.

She where they get those "Crazy 5'2" latina" and "La Toxica" memes from?

In all seriousness...sorry to hear that. Not that it's the end of the world for yall, but would be a lot cooler if your family had a normal sister/SIL/aunt. Mentall illness sucks.

I don't give two ****s about her and haven't since we got engaged. I figured out what she was early on. I had a lot of sympathy for her kids for years but that got impossible to manage as she ****ed up her kids so badly there was not much any of us could do. And frankly they were not my problem.

My SIL was absolutely abusive to her kids. So the wife and I are watching this and afterwards she looks at me and says I know what you're thinking and I say yep, if your sister was smart enough to pull this off, which she isn't, she'd have done the same. Wife agreed.

We have a severe mental illness epidemic in this country.
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In reply to Iambob • 11:34a, 9/5/25
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Iambob said:
Yes that's the one.

Thanks for posting. The twist was crazy! Really enjoyed this one.
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In reply to AustinAg2K • 11:40a, 9/5/25
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I can't say for sure the dad knew, but there is definitely something off about him. First off, the wife handles the finances, doesn't pay the rent so you get evicted, then doesn't pay your storage locker, so you lose all your stuff, and you still let her handle the finances? Second, when the cop talks to him on the front porch and tells him that they are taking his wife's phone, he immediately says, "Which one?" He already said they were having financial problems, but she's got two cell phones? Wouldn't you cancel one? The only reason I think he might not have known, is the wife doesn't seem like the kind of person who would take the blame herself. If they were in on it together, she absolutely would have thrown him under the bus. He may not have known, but he definitely had suspicions. When the cop said it was her, he didn't question it all. He was kind of like, "Yeah... Makes sense."

I can see the Daughter still not really accepting it, though, especially since she's close to the mom.

I do think the cop and principal did pretty bad jobs. Are reading the first sets of texts, I would have immediately told the families they needed to take it to the police. It's bigger than a school matter. Then the cop takes almost two years before bringing in the FBI? It seems like the FBI agent figured it out pretty quick by doing the basic things any cop should have done (ie subpoena records). The cop just went around asking, "Did you do this? No? Are you lying? No.... welp, I'm out of questions."


He probably assumed the second phone was for one of the two jobs she was pretending to have.
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In reply to Ol_Ag_02 • 11:49a, 9/5/25
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Yeah, it's not uncommon. I had a personal phone and a company phone for a number of years.
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In reply to bonfarr • 11:59a, 9/5/25
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The Dad must have been a complete Beta simp. How do you let your wife handle 100% of the finances and don't catch on that she got fired a year and a half ago and had no income and she wasn't paying the mortgage for a year? Was the crazy wife just giving him an allowance every week or what? How can you not notice that your wife wasn't actually going to work?


I have known a guy who's company is a client of ours. He left the company earlier this year and came by to shoot the **** with us just yesterday. Turning 60 later this year. He was talking about something he was doing soon and casually said "not sure though, [wife] handles the finances."

This guy was in the air force, goes on multi day bear hunts up north in the wilderness, goes camping somewhere different one weekend every month of the year, always carries, on and on. The furthest from a beta simp.

Now while I would never live my life not knowing all my family's finances and expenses, guys like that do exist.

And she's probably been manipulating him in various ways for years and he just didn't recognize it, for trivial things up to something as serious as her 'jobs.' Her mental illness didn't start with texting her daughter.
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In reply to Bunk Moreland • 12:06p, 9/5/25
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Bunk Moreland said:
bonfarr said:
The Dad must have been a complete Beta simp. How do you let your wife handle 100% of the finances and don't catch on that she got fired a year and a half ago and had no income and she wasn't paying the mortgage for a year? Was the crazy wife just giving him an allowance every week or what? How can you not notice that your wife wasn't actually going to work?


I have known a guy who's company is a client of ours. He left the company earlier this year and came by to shoot the **** with us just yesterday. Turning 60 later this year. He was talking about something he was doing soon and casually said "not sure though, [wife] handles the finances."

This guy was in the air force, goes on multi day bear hunts up north in the wilderness, goes camping somewhere different one weekend every month of the year, always carries, on and on. The furthest from a beta simp.

Now while I would never live my life not knowing all my family's finances and expenses, guys like that do exist.

And she's probably been manipulating him in various ways for years and just didn't recognize it. Her mental illness didn't start with texting her daughter.


Kind of the other side here. But I do all the finances in my household. My wife doesn't want to have anything to do with. I try and discuss the finances with her, show her the budget, etc and all she wants to know is, "Do we have the money for this, or not."

Some people just don't want to get involved in family finances and it blows my mind.
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3:38p, 9/5/25
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I think she was infatuated with Owen and that is how it started. Jealous of her own daughter. Then she saw all of the chaos going and she reveled in the idea that she was the only one that knew the sender of the texts. Crazy, like severe BSC woman.
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In reply to Wabs • 3:39p, 9/5/25
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I think she was infatuated with Owen and that is how it started. Jealous of her own daughter. Then she saw all of the chaos going and she reveled in the idea that she was the only one that knew the sender of the texts. Crazy, like severe BSC woman.

Yeah, I think there was definitely an infatuation with the boy. If it was just to stay close to the daughter, then it doesn't make any sense she would start text the boy's new girlfriend.
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In reply to Fuzzy Dunlop • 3:41p, 9/5/25
Fuzzy Dunlop said:
Bunk Moreland said:
bonfarr said:
The Dad must have been a complete Beta simp. How do you let your wife handle 100% of the finances and don't catch on that she got fired a year and a half ago and had no income and she wasn't paying the mortgage for a year? Was the crazy wife just giving him an allowance every week or what? How can you not notice that your wife wasn't actually going to work?


I have known a guy who's company is a client of ours. He left the company earlier this year and came by to shoot the **** with us just yesterday. Turning 60 later this year. He was talking about something he was doing soon and casually said "not sure though, [wife] handles the finances."

This guy was in the air force, goes on multi day bear hunts up north in the wilderness, goes camping somewhere different one weekend every month of the year, always carries, on and on. The furthest from a beta simp.

Now while I would never live my life not knowing all my family's finances and expenses, guys like that do exist.

And she's probably been manipulating him in various ways for years and just didn't recognize it. Her mental illness didn't start with texting her daughter.


Kind of the other side here. But I do all the finances in my household. My wife doesn't want to have anything to do with. I try and discuss the finances with her, show her the budget, etc and all she wants to know is, "Do we have the money for this, or not."

Some people just don't want to get involved in family finances and it blows my mind.

Almost my same situation, except my wife doesn't bother to ask if we have money for something. She just assumes we do.
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6:05p, 9/5/25
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100% on the cyber Munchausen by proxy assessment. This lady is mental, manipulative, and found a way to drive her daughter closer to her by hurting her.

As far as finances, I know a guy who is CEO of a successful national company. His wife hasn't worked in 20 years and is one of the dumbest people I know. She handles all the finances and he doesn't really know. He just knows when the checking account gets low. How some couples manage things, I dunno
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6:53p, 9/5/25
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I wish they would have looked into her "jobs" more and dug up some dirt there. And like mentioned above I don't understand how she could have so much contact with her while in jail but none now? There were some things that they should have made more clear.
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In reply to Beckdiesel03 • 7:11p, 9/5/25
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I wish they would have looked into her "jobs" more and dug up some dirt there. And like mentioned above I don't understand how she could have so much contact with her while in jail but none now? There were some things that they should have made more clear.


I'm guessing in exchange for her participation they had to agree not to go down some various rabbit holes.
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7:16p, 9/5/25
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Yeah, she couldn't even really confess on what she did with the texts. I'm guessing the job stuff was off limits

As far as the daughter's initial reaction, the cop wasn't very clear on what happened. Plus, she's a teenager with a couple of cops in her house with her and her mom. She basically just went into a quiet shell, which I'd expect out of a lot of teenagers. In fact, I'd bet more react that way initially than get emotional. I think both the husband and the kid were subject to so much manipulation over the years - known and still unknown - that even now they are somewhat conflicted in their feelings for her.
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8:40p, 9/5/25
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That said, the husband knew. His reaction was all about the jobs, not the texts. The jobs were the only surprise he got that day
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In reply to DannyDuberstein • 11:21p, 9/5/25
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That said, the husband knew. His reaction was all about the jobs, not the texts. The jobs were the only surprise he got that day


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In reply to Fuzzy Dunlop • 7:41p, 9/7/25
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Fuzzy Dunlop said:
Bunk Moreland said:
bonfarr said:
The Dad must have been a complete Beta simp. How do you let your wife handle 100% of the finances and don't catch on that she got fired a year and a half ago and had no income and she wasn't paying the mortgage for a year? Was the crazy wife just giving him an allowance every week or what? How can you not notice that your wife wasn't actually going to work?


I have known a guy who's company is a client of ours. He left the company earlier this year and came by to shoot the **** with us just yesterday. Turning 60 later this year. He was talking about something he was doing soon and casually said "not sure though, [wife] handles the finances."

This guy was in the air force, goes on multi day bear hunts up north in the wilderness, goes camping somewhere different one weekend every month of the year, always carries, on and on. The furthest from a beta simp.

Now while I would never live my life not knowing all my family's finances and expenses, guys like that do exist.

And she's probably been manipulating him in various ways for years and just didn't recognize it. Her mental illness didn't start with texting her daughter.


Kind of the other side here. But I do all the finances in my household. My wife doesn't want to have anything to do with. I try and discuss the finances with her, show her the budget, etc and all she wants to know is, "Do we have the money for this, or not."

Some people just don't want to get involved in family finances and it blows my mind.


That's my wife as well, and she is absolutely a beta simp
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10:23p, 9/7/25
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As someone who grew up with a mom who went off the deep end....I can absolutely confirm that a) the daughter likely had no involvement and is just confused as hell because she and her mom are completely enmeshed, and b) it's very possible the husband is clueless because I saw that even my own dad was clueless at what my mom was doing financially.

I feel for the daughter. I know what it's like to grow up in a dysfunctional household but not even REALIZE is dysfunctional because it's all you know, and no child ever wants to believe their own mother could truly treat them that way. You start to assume the behavior you see in your household is "normal" and you've been so manipulated your whole life you don't even know what's true and what's not.

As she grows up, she will come to realize it though. I pray her dad is getting her therapy.
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11:43a, 9/8/25
After going down a rabbit hole if YouTube videos, it wasn't entirely a shock to the community that Kendra was behind it all. As her sister mentioned on the documentary, she had to be the center of attention. I guess she was known to always insert herself into kids gossip. Several teachers and staff members suspected it was her, and went to the police, but it was discarded because, "What mother would do that to their own child?" She spent a lot of time at the school, and was known to just sit in the parking lot in her car all day long.

Owen's mom was friends with her, but they had a bit of falling out even before they knew she was behind it all. Apparently, Kendra wanted to know a lot of details about Owen's social life, and his parents thought it was kind of creepy, so they had to tell Kendra they would only speak about the Cyberbully and nothing else. They would even see her in her car at strange places, making them wonder if she might be following them.

Even the daughter suspected her mom, telling friends she thought it could be her mom. That probably somewhat explains her reaction when finding out.

The job at the local college was legit. She was put on a performance improvement plan because she was spending too much time on her phone. She ultimately quit before she could be fired.

The dad really sounds like an idiot. They had cars repossessed, utilities cut off, and were evicted from multiple homes. Even if you believe your wife is working, at one point do you say, "You suck with the bills. I'm taking over." Or if you also suck, get a friend to help advise you? They would always have a story about how their identity was stolen, or their CC was hacked, etc. They were in the process of getting evicted from their current home when she got arrested. It does sound like he was fairly innocent in at all, except that he probably should have known. Based off all the alcohol on the table when they arrested her, I can't help but to wonder if he's an alcoholic.

She was basically known by the community to be a bit crazy, and an attention *****. There was a story about in middle school, some things were missing from the basketball team. She blamed a bunch of people, including that Khloe girl. Turns out it was her the whole time.

It's not really a surprise, but it does sound like the documentary makes it more shocking of a reveal than it really was. The only reason she wasn't caught earlier is because people couldn't believe a mom would do that. Once the town found out it was her, it seems like a lot were like, "Yeah, I can see that."
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1:14p, 9/8/25
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Sorry if already discussed but iirc the mom said she didn't initiate the text in the very beginning but she instead started after the first texting stopped.... Im assuming this is clearly bull**** but it was never addressed
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In reply to Mr.Bond • 3:47p, 9/8/25
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Sorry if already discussed but iirc the mom said she didn't initiate the text in the very beginning but she instead started after the first texting stopped.... Im assuming this is clearly bull**** but it was never addressed

The cop said he didn't believe her, but beyond that, it wasn't addressed. I think it's pretty clear she was the only one doing it. Somehow she thinks if she didn't start it, she's somehow not being as bad of a mom.
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In reply to AustinAg2K • 9:40p, 9/8/25
The town "knowing" and actual investigation is two different things. It's not what you know it's what you can prove legally. Without knowing all the details of the case other than what the show and yourself provided, LE still needed to establish a nexus between mom and the unknown texter. So it was not necessarily the cops saying no way it's mom (I'm sure the public thought so because generally speaking the public does not understand what is needed to obtain a search warrant) they could not establish a nexus with mom until they obtained the user info of the spoof account. That proved enough to obtain the warrant for her digital devices which would then lead to the evidence needed to get an arrest warrant for the offense she committed.
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9:51p, 9/8/25
https://www.thecut.com/article/kendra-licari-daughter-cyberbully-mommy-meanest-true-story.html

This article that was published in January says the daughter suspected her mother about a month before the arrest.
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10:30p, 9/9/25
Just finished watching it. Crazy town!
Maybe I missed it, but how did the mom get the picture from Owen's Christmas party? Was she there?
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In reply to aggiechick • 10:44p, 9/9/25
Thought the party was at her house?
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8:19a, 9/10/25
Thanks! I thought the party was Owen's family's party at their house and that's why they focused on the cousin. I guess I didn't catch that.
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