TCTTS said:

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fig96 said:

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So many missing the forest for the trees here.

I don't have strong feelings about Kimmel one way or the other, and if ABC wanted to fire him that was their choice (though I thought his comments would have been much more inflammatory given the uproar). But the fact that the FCC chair is talking about wanting to sanction or take away licenses from media companies for things they say should be a massive red flag.

This isn't the first time that this admin has advocated for companies to fire specific employees for saying things they didn't like (again, massive red flag). Getting fired for an opinion that your employer didn't like is very different than getting fired for celebrating someone's death.

Did the "other side" do some of this as well? To an extent, and that was wrong too. But they didn't literally call for people to fired or tell reporters asking about free speech to their face that they might be next. We have media companies sending out memos to their employees telling them not to post negatively about a public figure who died. That's kind of insane.

You should find this alarming whatever side of the aisle you're on, because at some point your party isn't going to be the one in charge.

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I literally don't understand cheering this on, for this reason alone. The tables WILL be turned at some point, and it's only going to get worse from here.

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Isn't that what is currently happening? Or did you mean, turning the tables BACK?

in the full video it cuts to trump being asked about how he is holding up after his friend died and he starts talking about construction on the white house instead. looked edited to me but I have no idea.

still very benign to warrant FCC interference.

Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

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TCTTS said:

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fig96 said:

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So many missing the forest for the trees here.

I don't have strong feelings about Kimmel one way or the other, and if ABC wanted to fire him that was their choice (though I thought his comments would have been much more inflammatory given the uproar). But the fact that the FCC chair is talking about wanting to sanction or take away licenses from media companies for things they say should be a massive red flag.

This isn't the first time that this admin has advocated for companies to fire specific employees for saying things they didn't like (again, massive red flag). Getting fired for an opinion that your employer didn't like is very different than getting fired for celebrating someone's death.

Did the "other side" do some of this as well? To an extent, and that was wrong too. But they didn't literally call for people to fired or tell reporters asking about free speech to their face that they might be next. We have media companies sending out memos to their employees telling them not to post negatively about a public figure who died. That's kind of insane.

You should find this alarming whatever side of the aisle you're on, because at some point your party isn't going to be the one in charge.

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I literally don't understand cheering this on, for this reason alone. The tables WILL be turned at some point, and it's only going to get worse from here.

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Isn't that what is currently happening? Or did you mean, turning the tables BACK?

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I must have missed where the previous admins threatened networks, reporters, and media personalities openly.

Turning the tables back. Meaning whenever Democrats are in charge again. Cheering this **** on now only enables them to do the same or worse in the future. It's like making fun of old people. Bro, you're going to be old one day too.

DannyDuberstein said:

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swimmerbabe11 said:

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and?

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You need this further clarified lol?

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what you said has no relevancy to whether or not this was FCC overreach.

Having principles means being consistent, even when its not convenient.

Cliff.Booth said:

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I didn't see that but if that's true the dude should be fired. I am pro-stop inciting violence and wishing harm upon people you disagree with, stop creating content and making "comedy" that demonizes half the the country. Are we not seeing where it leads?

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This.

sure, I totally agree there is a huge chance ABC said "yep thats convenient, let's pull that plug now" but that doesnt change that if the FCC really pulled this stunt... that is a *bad* thing.

Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

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TCTTS said:

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If this were true, shouldn't CNN, Fox News, et al have been taken off the air years ago? Both lie all the damn time. In fact, countless lies about crimes have been told on television for decades.

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This is one post of yours I agree with.

Even a broken clock...

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On that note, I too would be perfectly fine with all those news channels being taken off the air. id imagine since they are not OTA though, they aren't held to the same standard.

Here's a little bit more information about potentially applicable statutes. If you read further on his thread, he mentions that the FCC has only used this one time.

This is a clear cut violation of the FCC's policy against news distortion and is punishable by revocation of the offending broadcast's license under 47 U.S.C. § 312(a) or at least a hearing and punitive action as under § 309(a) as all organizations granted a broadcasting license… https://t.co/R3dFTRC4LV

— Howie Dewin (@howie4317694102) September 17, 2025

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Pretty much this.

With Kimmel getting canned I’m seeing lots of people talking about the hypocrisy of cancel culture. To me Cancel culture is when people go out of their way to dig up old tweets, videos etc looking for dirt on somebody they don’t like in an effort to get them fired. Like if…

— Dave Portnoy (@stoolpresidente) September 18, 2025

I think some of the people that got fired during 'cancel culture' deserved it. If they were openly racist af, I didn't bat an eye when they got fired. Cancel culture got coined when it started going over the top, trying to compare what is going on right now to that is asinine. I don't agree with this if this was coming down from the FCC and hope we don't go down that road. However, I can see some arguments against a full media aparateus terming the other side as a the next Hitler as they have openly been doing, being a bit of a safety issue. I don't know the solution is, but it can't be the status quo.

Edit: I see the tweet got posted while I was typing this out, but will keep it up regardless.

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But it always conveniently only went one way. And Jimmy Kimmel is a prime example. Was his blackface as bad as what Paula Deen was cancelled for?

What happened to Gov Ralph Northam getting a free pass for either being dressed in blackface OR in a klan outfit in a college year book Surely he had to resign to live up to the same standards ' right?

Whatabout that insane lie about Justice Kavanaugh and a yearbook?

Spare me the both sides.

So wait per the FCC SNL Weekend Update anchors have only been telling the truth for 50 years?

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I don't love the guy, but pretty tame comments to be pulling the FCC card.

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It wasn't the FCC, it was Nextstar the forced ABC to do it.

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I saw an article that said FCC was threatening to pull ABC's broadcast license.

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schmendeler said:

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The countries where comedians can't mock the leader on late night TV are not really ones you want to live in.

— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) September 17, 2025

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Wait, what part of what happened was related to him supposedly mocking the "leader." He was intentionally mocking an entire half of the country, as well as basically gloating about the murder of someone he clearly was ok with dying.

What a stupid idiotic take.

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Try watching the video. The main thrust of the joke was pointing out how little Trump actually cared about Charlie Kirk. He only cares about his own stuff.

We can officially raise the alert level from "Wow, Things Sure Seem Bad"

to

"Uh Oh! I Recognize This One From the Textbook"

— Conor Rogers (@conorjrogers) September 17, 2025

This dude is also defending Antifa in his next tweet and running with the "its a loosely organized idea" lie.

His opinion is idiotic.

Anyone with eyes and more than two braincells to rub together knows the damage antifa has done in the last half decade, and now a political assassination.

I haven't ever watched Kimmel much. Probably only when I've been stuck at the in-laws house with nothing else to watch. So, not a fan. But, it looks like he got screwed based on what I've seen. Seems kind of hypocritical by the FCC when you compare it to what Brian Kilmeade said last week on Fox about the best solution for our homeless problem is to kill all of the homeless by using lethal injection. He was totally serious. Nothing was said about removing him from the Fox line up. FCC didn't threaten him or Fox. Fox did make him apologize four or five days after the incident. But, that doesn't seem like enough.

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This dude is defending Antifa in this tweet and running with the "its a loosely organized idea" lie, not Kimmel.

Anyone with eyes and more than two braincells to rub together knows the damage antifa has done in the last half decade, and now a political assassination.

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Things can be about more than one thing.

even setting aside all the important reasons it’s bad for the Trump administration to force ABC to cancel somehow, it’s also monumentally shortsighted politically since every time Jimmy Kimmel says something mean about you is a fundraising opportunity

— Ben Dreyfuss (@bendreyfuss) September 18, 2025

fig96 said:

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So many missing the forest for the trees here.

I don't have strong feelings about Kimmel one way or the other, and if ABC wanted to fire him that was their choice (though I thought his comments would have been much more inflammatory given the uproar). But the fact that the FCC chair is talking about wanting to sanction or take away licenses from media companies for things they say should be a massive red flag.

This isn't the first time that this admin has advocated for companies to fire specific employees for saying things they didn't like (again, massive red flag). Getting fired for an opinion that your employer didn't like is very different than getting fired for celebrating someone's death.

Did the "other side" do some of this as well? To an extent, and that was wrong too. But they didn't literally call for people to fired or tell reporters asking about free speech to their face that they might be next. We have media companies sending out memos to their employees telling them not to post negatively about a public figure who died. That's kind of insane.

You should find this alarming whatever side of the aisle you're on, because at some point your party isn't going to be the one in charge.

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When the Affordable Care Act was being pushed, the White House had an ad campaign encouraging people to tattle on any friends or neighbors or family members who were sharing info about the ACA that wasn't exactly correct.

The Obama administration literally encouraged people to be Rolf telling on the Von Trapp family.

Never heard one person on the left have a problem with it.

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MGS said:

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Diggity said:

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I don't love the guy, but pretty tame comments to be pulling the FCC card.

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It wasn't the FCC, it was Nextstar the forced ABC to do it.

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I saw an article that said FCC was threatening to pull ABC's broadcast license.

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Nexstar straight up said they would not put him on the air with their affiliate stations. So did Sinclair. ABC has no way to actually air the show in any meaningful way if those companies refuse to put it in their stations. They're both trying to get deals through FCC approval and probably kissing the ring, but Kimmel absolutely stepped over the line. Tame or not, his words were horse**** and meant to inflame. It's pretty damn tone deaf and unprofessional considering the circumstances. **** like this is how you piss someone off into retaliating and starting tit for tat violence.

maroon barchetta said:

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fig96 said:

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So many missing the forest for the trees here.

I don't have strong feelings about Kimmel one way or the other, and if ABC wanted to fire him that was their choice (though I thought his comments would have been much more inflammatory given the uproar). But the fact that the FCC chair is talking about wanting to sanction or take away licenses from media companies for things they say should be a massive red flag.

This isn't the first time that this admin has advocated for companies to fire specific employees for saying things they didn't like (again, massive red flag). Getting fired for an opinion that your employer didn't like is very different than getting fired for celebrating someone's death.

Did the "other side" do some of this as well? To an extent, and that was wrong too. But they didn't literally call for people to fired or tell reporters asking about free speech to their face that they might be next. We have media companies sending out memos to their employees telling them not to post negatively about a public figure who died. That's kind of insane.

You should find this alarming whatever side of the aisle you're on, because at some point your party isn't going to be the one in charge.

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When the Affordable Care Act was being pushed, the White House had an ad campaign encouraging people to tattle on any friends or neighbors or family members who were sharing info about the ACA that wasn't exactly correct.

The Obama administration literally encouraged people to be Rolf telling on the Von Trapp family.

Never heard one person on the left have a problem with it.

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What were the consequences in store for these misinformers? Jail time? Fines? I'm interested in hearing more about it.

TCTTS said:

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The United States government threatened Kimmel's employer to do something about speech they didn't like.

That is an indisputable fact.

Whether Kimmel's employer acted in response to that threat or independent of it is almost irrelevant.

Either way, you can't ignore the timing.

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It's not irrelevant it wasn't any direct government statement just a comment.

There was already pressure from sponsors and station manager and owners looking to pre-empt his show.

Plus low ratings.

And then you have him apparently refusing to apologize we have learned.

What the FCC guy said was just a warning to everyone. And completely valid.

TCTTS said:

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Some additional context, which I get/understand to an extent. At the same time, in this regard, who is defining what, exactly, is "in the public interest" and what is the line between establishing that definition and stifling free speech?

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"Broadcasters are different from any other form of communication, including here on cable right now. Fox News doesn't have an FCC license, CNN doesn't, but ABC, CBS, and NBC - those broadcast stations do. And with that license comes a unique obligation to operate in the public interest. President Trump ran directly at these legacy broadcast outlets and exposed them to market forces, and a lot of these affiliate groups said, 'We are tired of carrying this stuff.' There's more work to do, but I'm very glad to see that American broadcasters are standing up to serve the interests of their communities."

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FCC Chairman Brendan Carr weighs in after ABC pulls Jimmy Kimmel off the airwaves

"Broadcasters are different from any other form of communication, including here on cable right now. Fox News doesn’t have an FCC license, CNN doesn’t, but ABC, CBS, and NBC—those broadcast… pic.twitter.com/RjATnjPzEC

— Sean Hannity 🇺🇸 (@seanhannity) September 18, 2025

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Well to that point they are still free to speak - just not on that FCC regulated platform if they cannot abide by whatever guidelines.

Does it smell like McCarthyism?

Meh. The difference is now there is a plethora of other platforms - social media and non FCC regulated networks too.

Nobodies speech is getting violated just enforcing guidelines for those that are regulated.

Heck he or Colbert can run their own podcast - you might notice thats what all the cancelled conservatives had to do because the liberal leaning mainstream media would not carry them. Or go on a campus tour like Charlie.

Conservatives canned by these companies didn't cry about it. They started their own business and built an audience through grassroots support - not backed by liberal media moguls. If their message is popular and in demand then they will be fine. The problem is - it's not marketable to be a leftist loon without big media behind you. None of them would survive a free marketplace.

Honestly seems like they had ABC dead to rights on this. Carr did it the right thing hands down pic.twitter.com/YcBaFpUiqX

— Latinx Adjacent Doctor PhD (@TonerousHyus) September 18, 2025

This inflammatory **** is why we are here to begin with. Maybe take a lesson and tone it the **** down vs pretending to be a victim. There are a number of victims from the past week. Jimmy Kimmel isn't one of them

You really believe that the United States government should be able to "warn" media companies (in this case, threaten to revoke their broadcast license) when they don't like the speech being aired? Because I'm genuinely curious how you can possibly square that with the first amended, conservative values, small government, etc?

Actor/producer/writer/editor/assistant editor/grip/craft services guy

Actor Not Sure His Charlie Kirk Post Has Enough Qualifiers pic.twitter.com/1bsEp9WlUm

— Ryan Long (@ryanlongcomedy) September 17, 2025

Maybe just maybe don't become an unfunny, Hollywood elitist whose ratings suck before spiking the football on the majority of the country after a political assassination

I just know that if this continues, we're quickly going to run out of unfunny hacks who turned the industry behemoth of late night comedy into unfunny nightly political propaganda. What will we ever do….other
than have networks stop bleeding tens of millions of dollars