Raiders of the Lost Ark

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She talks in her sleep.
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00 said:

She talks in her sleep.


I know!
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If the burn on Toht's hand had been the other side of the headpiece, they would have been very confused.
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AustinAg2K said:

Anytime my wife and I go somewhere and we end up getting stuck in line or something mildly annoying happens to us, we both look at each other and say, "We chose... Poorly."

Years ago, my wife and I were part of a team from our school that attended a teacher training called "Capturing Kids Hearts" (run by a company based out of B/CS, but this was outside of Orlando). Ever since we heard the name, we have referred to it as the "kali-ma" training, in honor of ToD.
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Zeke1995 said:

Just wanted to point out, as no one has done so far, that the reluctant Nazi chick in Last Crusade was fine as hell.




Debuted as a Bond girl in a view to a kill Here she is hanging out with three dudes - Christopher Walken, Grace Jones, and Roger Moore.




Also Charlie Sheen's girlfriend in Major League 2. She had to take a bleach bath daily after touching Charlie Sheen.




Still hot as hell in her 60s.

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You realize that is not remotely the same woman in the Bond pic, right?
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CharleyKerfeld said:

Zeke1995 said:

Just wanted to point out, as no one has done so far, that the reluctant Nazi chick in Last Crusade was fine as hell.




Debuted as a Bond girl in a view to a kill Here she is hanging out with three dudes - Christopher Walken, Grace Jones, and Roger Moore.




Dude, that's Tanya Roberts. If you're an 80's kid, you'd never forget Sheena.
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Zeke1995 said:

Just wanted to point out, as no one has done so far, that the reluctant Nazi chick in Last Crusade was fine as hell.




But she never believed in The Grail.
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After seeing what the false grail did to Donovan, who wouldn't believe?

That scene gave me nightmares in my youth.
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Zeke1995 said:

Just wanted to point out, as no one has done so far, that the reluctant Nazi chick in Last Crusade was fine as hell.




She's a Nazi George....a nazi.

nice Luger.
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Belton Ag said:

CharleyKerfeld said:

Zeke1995 said:

Just wanted to point out, as no one has done so far, that the reluctant Nazi chick in Last Crusade was fine as hell.




Debuted as a Bond girl in a view to a kill Here she is hanging out with three dudes - Christopher Walken, Grace Jones, and Roger Moore.




Dude, that's Tanya Roberts. If you're an 80's kid, you'd never forget Sheena.


Yeah, completely different woman, although the Last Crusade girl was in A View To A Kill.
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Belton Ag said:

CharleyKerfeld said:

Zeke1995 said:

Just wanted to point out, as no one has done so far, that the reluctant Nazi chick in Last Crusade was fine as hell.




Debuted as a Bond girl in a view to a kill Here she is hanging out with three dudes - Christopher Walken, Grace Jones, and Roger Moore.




Dude, that's Tanya Roberts. If you're an 80's kid, you'd never forget Sheena.

One of posted photos of hot chicks, everyone else complained
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Thanks to this thread I decided to fire up the last crusade and watch it for the first time in forever.

Was a little more hokey than I remembered. Action a little more unbelievable than I had thought. Which made me feel like maybe I was a little too hard on the recent movies.

Anyway, really enjoyed it, and now want to watch raiders of the lost ark.

We have a 9 month old kid and it probably took me 5 days to get through the whole movie, as we were constantly turning it off and on based on the kids schedule. Made me realize how disjointed the life of a new parent is!
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Your experience is the same one I have when I rewatch it. This goes back to why Raiders of the Lost Ark is the best movie of the series. Definitely some light-hearted moments, but not as MUCH cheese or playing into its tropes as The Last Crusade.

But, at the end of the day, they are supposed to be fun adventure movies. I think we may sometimes romanticize the series as more cinematically aggrandized, because of how we remember it. From my experience, people who watch these movies for the first time, later in life, do not place them on the same pedestal as those of us who grew up watching them.

It's still an iconic character and trilogy.
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The original 3 films never loses its hold on me. I used to not care for Temple of Doom but over the years it has grown on me. My fave is Last Crusade primarily due to the Harrison Ford / Sean Connery duo. Just FANTASTIC!

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Raiders is just a beautifully shot film. It's my favorite movie of all time and every time I watch it I marvel at the excellence of the cinematography. Location shoots, practical effects, all of it makes for a beautiful piece of film. There are a handful of errors (i.e. the cobra reflection, bouncing stones, Belloq and the fly, etc.), but they make the film that much more fun, imo.
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Look at the big log used to explosively tip over the Nazi truck when Indy thinks Marion died. Or the shadow of the tires of the truck in the big desert chase where you can clearly see that they cut out a path for Ford/stunt man (I think Ford did that stunt himself) to traverse beneath the moving truck.
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Raider is truly number 1, but I favor TLC because of the father/son dynamic and two legends.

My son is 13 and thinks Temple of Doom is the favorite.

Looking forward to his maturation curve and eventually joining the grown man opinions.
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PDEMDHC said:

Gigem314 said:

Emotional Support Cobra said:

No ticket!!!

My favorite last crusade line. I also love when Sean Connery chases the birds on the beach and quotes Charlemagne.

Henry: I ought to tell you something...

Indy: Don't get sentimental now, dad, wait until we get out of here...

Henry: The floor's on fire...

Henry: Annnnnd the chair...

I can quote this from memory and always makes me laugh.

Indiana: The hell you will! He's got a two-day head start on you, which is more than he needs. Brody's got friends in every town and village from here to the Sudan. He speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom. He'll blend in, disappear. You'll never see him again. With any luck, he's got the Grail already.

Marcus: Does anyone here speak English?


I like the expanded quote even more.

"Does anyone here speak English? Or even ancient Greek? Oh water? No thank you, sir. Fish make love in it."

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When he was in the Himalayan bar and Karen Allen says, I love you.

And Indy says, I know

Awesome!
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It's Raiders and then everything else. Story was amazing. It was peak special effects before CGI started taking over and making everything unbelievable.

The thing that amazed me as a kid and carries over to this day is the story of life and death adventure and amazing special effects. All the action scenes of Raiders seemed fairly believable to 6 year old kids because an actual person was doing those stunts. From the opening scene of recovering the gold totem from the cave, to fighting a half dozen Nazi's in a burning Nepalese bar, to finding the hidden ark, to the airplane fight scene, to recovering the ark via horseback then onto a moving truck while being dragged and then climbing back up was just like shooting adrenaline into the veins of my 6 year old body. My favorite action adventure movie of all time and I don't think there is anything even close. I wanted to be an archeologist from the moment I saw it till probably sometime in Jr. High or Highschool when it dawned on me that archeologist really didn't get to do the things that Indy did.

Now that being said, even as a 6 year old to this date, I never understood how Jones survived on the outside of a submarine while they transported the ark to the island.
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Ag97 said:

It's Raiders and then everything else. Story was amazing. It was peak special effects before CGI started taking over and making everything unbelievable.

The thing that amazed me as a kid and carries over to this day is the story of life and death adventure and amazing special effects. All the action scenes of Raiders seemed fairly believable to 6 year old kids because an actual person was doing those stunts. From the opening scene of recovering the gold totem from the cave, to fighting a half dozen Nazi's in a burning Nepalese bar, to finding the hidden ark, to the airplane fight scene, to recovering the ark via horseback then onto a moving truck while being dragged and then climbing back up was just like shooting adrenaline into the veins of my 6 year old body. My favorite action adventure movie of all time and I don't think there is anything even close. I wanted to be an archeologist from the moment I saw it till probably sometime in Jr. High or Highschool when it dawned on me that archeologist really didn't get to do the things that Indy did.

Now that being said, even as a 6 year old to this date, I never understood how Jones survived on the outside of a submarine while they transported the ark to the island.

CGI is this omnipresent villain in the making of movies these days. CGI only barely existed prior to 1989's Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - the visual effects technique would take a quantum leap with Terminator 2: Judgment Day and Jurassic Park over the next 2-4 years. By the time of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull in 2008, the technique had become ingrained into filmmaking. But none of the original trilogy utilized CGI. Miniatures, matte paintings, rotoscope, stop motion animation yes, but CGI no, largely because it simply didn't exist.

As for the believability thing, I agree. But then we get to that cut sequence that otherwise explains how Indy gets from the freighter to the island: by hanging onto the U-Boat's periscope. There's a good reason that Spielberg cut that scene - it would have been laughably bad. (But then I give you diving out of a plane in a boat as far, far more egregious, but I digress). U-Boats didn't travel underwater in most cases, so Indy wouldn't have been hanging onto the periscope. But then, there likely would have been someone in the conning tower, the Captain or XO, perhaps someone tending to the deck gun - so where the hell was Indy going to hide?

Yes, that is a legitimate criticism of the movie I consider the second best ever made, but I've never let that sour my love for the movie.
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The bigger mystery to me was how did Indy and Marion, the only two survivors of the wrath of God coming out of the Ark, transport the Ark back to the submarine and then load it and then drive the sub back to Africa or India or somewhere, what with all of their submarine piloting and navigation skills.
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I'd just assumed that someone on the Allied side saw the Ark light up the Eastern half of the Med & they came to investigate, found Indy & Marion and took them hom.

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Apache said:

I'd just assumed that someone on the Allied side saw the Ark light up the Eastern half of the Med & they came to investigate, found Indy & Marion and took them hom.



Or they went back to the sub base and got on a radio to call the nearest friendly people, maybe the Brits in Malta, and arranged pickup.
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Or the island may have had some kind of settlement on it, or a boat tied up somewhere.
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What's interesting about that is that CGI was used pretty perfectly in Jurassic Park and T2 especially the former. Some of the very first use cases for it are still the best use cases and the quality in JP from 30 damn years ago surpasses many movies that use it today. That's kind of wild to me. The commoditization of CGI has made things worse.
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Yeah. The Fellowship of the Ring still holds up remarkably well considering it came out in 2001 and there have been huge advances since then.
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maroon barchetta said:

The bigger mystery to me was how did Indy and Marion, the only two survivors of the wrath of God coming out of the Ark, transport the Ark back to the submarine and then load it and then drive the sub back to Africa or India or somewhere, what with all of their submarine piloting and navigation skills.

They had the Ark. Duh.
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YouBet said:

What's interesting about that is that CGI was used pretty perfectly in Jurassic Park and T2 especially the former. Some of the very first use cases for it are still the best use cases and the quality in JP from 30 damn years ago surpasses many movies that use it today. That's kind of wild to me. The commoditization of CGI has made things worse.

Agreed.

Visual effects have been an interest of mine since I saw that first TV special on how they did the effects in Star Wars, so much so that I did consider going to USC at some point so that I could make movies (junior high, early high school years).

The first use of what we would later refer to as CGI was, I believe, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, with the depiction of the Genesis torpedo on a lifeless moon. Then The Last Starfighter a couple of years later, which featured a more extensive use of computer technology to generate the space / combat sequences. It was James Cameron who seems to have ushered in CGI with 1989's The Abyss, in the form of the water tentacle. That was a perfect use case for CGI, with the ability to capture reflections of actors' faces and the surrounding set in the "water". Ditto for T2 with the liquid metal terminator. No one complained about the obvious CGI in T2 because how it was depicted fit the T-1000 character perfectly; of course it would morph into a blob of sorts as it does throughout the movie. But even that one was not fully CGI - the scene where Arnie blows a hole in it with the grenade launcher, right before it plunges into the molten metal, was a prothesis that an actor wore (whether the actor was actual Robert Patrick, I don't know).

Jurassic Park is widely believed to be fully CGI, but it is not. There were lots of shots of dinosaurs that were CGI - those around the lake or the big Brachiosaurus that they first see, or the flock of whatever those were "herding this way". But the T-Rex was an animatronic prop. Not sure about the raptors, although I believe they were a combination of prop & CGI. But regardless, JP was a perfect mixture of old and new visual effects tech.
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T-Rex was both practical and CGI, depending on the shot.
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FL_Ag1998 said:

Belton Ag said:

CharleyKerfeld said:

Zeke1995 said:

Just wanted to point out, as no one has done so far, that the reluctant Nazi chick in Last Crusade was fine as hell.




Debuted as a Bond girl in a view to a kill Here she is hanging out with three dudes - Christopher Walken, Grace Jones, and Roger Moore.




Dude, that's Tanya Roberts. If you're an 80's kid, you'd never forget Sheena.


Yeah, completely different woman, although the Last Crusade girl was in A View To A Kill.

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Who here actually had the Raiders of the Lost Ark ring tone?

It was pretty cool. Still is.
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I rewatched Last Crusade this weekend. Something that I was pondering. With the three trials of worthiness. Indy stops the blades for the first one. Throws sand down on the walkway so that path is easy to see. But he does nothing for the second. So how do the nazis know what to spell, and how to spell it. Because we all know the latin for Jehovah starts with an I.
 
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