Snow White narrative, new vs old

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This is a Snow White narrative I can support. It's amazing the biblical narratives woven into classical literature. It further explains why such a push exists to rewrite the stories with a more "progressive" flair. It is also an excellent demonstration of how doing so removes the moral underpinning that gives the story any meaningful value.
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Sapper Redux
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The original versions of these tales are far more complex and dark than this priest is acknowledging. The original Red Riding Hood from 16th century France had her getting naked into bed with the wolf whom she thought was her grandmother and being eaten. And then… that was it. The original Snow White had her mother as the villain. Not her stepmother. Her mother. And let's not even go into how the original Sleeping Beauty became pregnant with and gave birth to twins while asleep.
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Sapper Redux said:

The original versions of these tales are far more complex and dark than this priest is acknowledging. The original Red Riding Hood from 16th century France had her getting naked into bed with the wolf whom she thought was her grandmother and being eaten. And then… that was it. The original Snow White had her mother as the villain. Not her stepmother. Her mother. And let's not even go into how the original Sleeping Beauty became pregnant with and gave birth to twins while asleep.


Yup

A lot of these original tales were damn near horror stories

Cinderella's sisters cut off their toes and heels

The witch in Hansel and Gretel is a cannibal

Pinocchio kills a cricket teammate that teases him

Ursula cuts out the Little Mermaid's tongue





one MEEN Ag
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Sapper Redux said:

The original versions of these tales are far more complex and dark than this priest is acknowledging. The original Red Riding Hood from 16th century France had her getting naked into bed with the wolf whom she thought was her grandmother and being eaten. And then… that was it. The original Snow White had her mother as the villain. Not her stepmother. Her mother. And let's not even go into how the original Sleeping Beauty became pregnant with and gave birth to twins while asleep.
Sounds like these were pagan tales, Christianity commodified them to tell more moralistic stories, and then wokeism is trying to subvert the christian inversion.
Sapper Redux
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one MEEN Ag said:

Sapper Redux said:

The original versions of these tales are far more complex and dark than this priest is acknowledging. The original Red Riding Hood from 16th century France had her getting naked into bed with the wolf whom she thought was her grandmother and being eaten. And then… that was it. The original Snow White had her mother as the villain. Not her stepmother. Her mother. And let's not even go into how the original Sleeping Beauty became pregnant with and gave birth to twins while asleep.
Sounds like these were pagan tales, Christianity commodified them to tell more moralistic stories, and then wokeism is trying to subvert the christian inversion.


These are the narratives we have from the early modern era. 1000 years after the introduction of Christianity in societies far more dominated by institutional religion than the 20th century. What commodified them was raw capitalism in the form of Walt Disney.
Captain Pablo
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I doubt they had either a pagan or Christian motive

They were stories, that were not meant for children

The stories were created in rough times, and they reflected that

Eventually the Brothers Grimm toned down some of the stories to make them more palatable

And then Disney made them into cartoons
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one MEEN Ag said:

Sapper Redux said:

The original versions of these tales are far more complex and dark than this priest is acknowledging. The original Red Riding Hood from 16th century France had her getting naked into bed with the wolf whom she thought was her grandmother and being eaten. And then… that was it. The original Snow White had her mother as the villain. Not her stepmother. Her mother. And let's not even go into how the original Sleeping Beauty became pregnant with and gave birth to twins while asleep.
Sounds like these were pagan tales, Christianity commodified them to tell more moralistic stories, and then wokeism is trying to subvert the christian inversion.

So, you are concerned that progressives have changed the meaning of some stories. Stories which Christians already took from others and changed the meaning of?
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Captain Pablo said:

Sapper Redux said:

The original versions of these tales are far more complex and dark than this priest is acknowledging. The original Red Riding Hood from 16th century France had her getting naked into bed with the wolf whom she thought was her grandmother and being eaten. And then… that was it. The original Snow White had her mother as the villain. Not her stepmother. Her mother. And let's not even go into how the original Sleeping Beauty became pregnant with and gave birth to twins while asleep.


Yup

A lot of these original tales were damn near horror stories

Cinderella's sisters cut off their toes and heels

The witch in Hansel and Gretel is a cannibal

Pinocchio kills a cricket teammate that teases him

Ursula cuts out the Little Mermaid's tongue






No kidding. Btw, the Brothers Grimm published different versions of Snow White in the 1800s ...
The twisted history of Snow White

I love the bit about the evil stepmother having to put on red-hot iron shoes and dancing until she dies

How many of you have seen Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs ? (Warner Bros. 1943, directed by Bob Clampett. The same Bob Clampett who later produced Beany & Cecil). I caught a showing 40 years ago at a seminar on racism and sexism in old cartoons.
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