Thank you for sharing, I will consider this. We are still struggling to even have open communication about it. We still have a great relationship with her at this point.

BusterAg said:

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I generally love Mormons because I think that they have such good family values

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This is all well and good but without love rooted in Christ it is ultimately a noisy gong

You're more than welcome-my mom (the poster above) told me about this situation and I have been praying for your daughter every night since. This is Lexi typing, her daughter. It would be a privilege to use what I went through to help your daughter or anyone else who is going through this situation. I recognize that I have a unique background in this and as a Christian, a responsibility to help. PLEASE email me to get my contact info; I also have a document on Christian Apologetics that I wrote myself to help my bible study students compare religions, including LDS to learn what we believe. It's a PDF I'd be so happy to send anyone who is interested. My email is leximinton@icloud.com. Praying for y'all; please reach out! Love always hopes and always perseveres- 1 Cor 13:7

Martin Q. Blank said:

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Maximus of Tejas said:

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Do people not know about Smith's legal troubles and his seer stones? The dude was an obvious fraud

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I agree he is obviously a fraud and he made up this religion to benefit himself.

But don't most of God's chosen prophets have a troubled past?

Ex. 2:14 He answered, "Who made you a prince and a judge over us? Do you mean to kill me as you killed the Egyptian?" Then Moses was afraid, and thought, "Surely the thing is known."

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There's a stark difference. Some, perhaps most of the OT prophets did some things that were not in line with the covenants, even Moses. But though and through, after becoming a prophet, their words ring true. This is the mark of a false prophet, stated many times throughout, if their words do not reflect truth, know them to be a false prophet.

Joseph Smith's words often were proven false, even in his lifetime. Mormons counter this by saying it's always true when they're speaking as a prophet, just not when they speak for themselves. Yet, this claim falls flat, as Mormon "prophets" have made claims they said came from revelation that turned out to be false. Even Joseph Smith made claims that he said were revelations from God that ended up being false. He even admitted on one particular occasion that it was the devil who sent him that message. How can anybody believe anything he has said if he openly admits that he isn't able to distinguish messages from God from messages from the devil?

To get ahead of criticism, there were two examples. Joseph made a claim that God told him to sell the publishing rights in Canada to the book or Mormon. He sent somebody up there to do that, hey were unable to make a deal, and JS said it was actually the devil that sent him that message.

The other example is the infamous Kinderhook plates. There were plates that were said to have a similar origin to the gold plates that began this thing. They were brought to Joseph Smith, he prayed over it and received a revelation that they were indeed from God. They were actually made of brass by a blacksmith a few years earlier as a hoax, and JS was embarrassed yet again.

It was actually a fairly common thing in that time period for people to claim to have found ancient documents and artifacts that were message from God. Many end of days cults, like LDS and Jehovah's Witnesses made the same kinds of claims. Martin Harris, the funding behind the book of Mormon, who was later excommunicated from LDS, went and joined another similar group, who had also found ancient scrolls they claimed to be from God. Martin Harris signed as a witness to those documents as well.

These are facts, documented in LDS church's own histories, but since they challenge the official narratives and shine a bad light on their prophet, members will call it "anti-mormon propaganda", because they don't know their own church's history, and they're not allowed to investigate it on their own. It's the classic "anyone who doesn't agree with us is a liar and should be ignored" that is the most basic fundamental part of any cult.

JS was just a really good orator, which is why his cult managed to grow so big.