I wouldn't take that bet.
My bet is that what comes out in a trial is not going to hurt Trump or help him.Rapier108 said:Depends on whether or not certain people think it can be used to harm Trump, or if it will help him.mrad85 said:
I'd bet you money that the trial won't really happen till AFTER the election
Harm= as close to the election as possible
Help= after the election if ever
from that storydoubledegreeAG said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/31/business/jeffrey-epstein-eugenics.html
Epstein is a transhumanism fanatic. Luciferian to the core. Think the devil might be real?
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Jeffrey E. Epstein, the wealthy financier who is accused of sex trafficking, had an unusual dream: He hoped to seed the human race with his DNA by impregnating women at his vast New Mexico ranch.
Mr. Epstein over the years confided to scientists and others about his scheme, according to four people familiar with his thinking, although there is no evidence that it ever came to fruition.
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Mr. Epstein was willing to finance research that others viewed as bizarre. He told one scientist that he was bankrolling efforts to identify a mysterious particle that might trigger the feeling that someone is watching you.
Part David Koresh with implanting his seed? The line between genius and madness is very thin. But from everything I have seen, he didn't have a baby factory going on New Mexico.biobioprof said:from that storydoubledegreeAG said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/31/business/jeffrey-epstein-eugenics.html
Epstein is a transhumanism fanatic. Luciferian to the core. Think the devil might be real?Quote:
Jeffrey E. Epstein, the wealthy financier who is accused of sex trafficking, had an unusual dream: He hoped to seed the human race with his DNA by impregnating women at his vast New Mexico ranch.
Mr. Epstein over the years confided to scientists and others about his scheme, according to four people familiar with his thinking, although there is no evidence that it ever came to fruition.
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Mr. Epstein was willing to finance research that others viewed as bizarre. He told one scientist that he was bankrolling efforts to identify a mysterious particle that might trigger the feeling that someone is watching you.
Brunel has been accused of molesting young women using his modeling agency as the method of procuring them.Quote:
A message left in January stated that "HRH Duchess of York" aka "Sarah (Fergie)" is "expecting your call."
The pad also had seven messages from a person named David Copperfield: "Magic David called," one note read. "It's jackpot."
Brunel, at 8 am on April 1, called Epstein, leaving a message saying: "He has a teacher for you to teach you how to speak Russian. She is 2 x 8 years old not blonde. Lessons are free and you can have 1st today if call me back."
Brunel then followed up again at 8:31 am and 9:04 am asking Epstein to get in touch with him.
I still cannot believe there aren't more victims of recent conduct that date after his 2008 plea deal.Quote:
Epstein had been served legal documents, which outlined the claims of Jennifer Araoz, who says the millionaire financier raped and assaulted her in his New York City mansion while she was a high school student in 2001. NBC reported Araoz's story on July 10, in which she claimed a young woman approached her outside of her high school and began speaking about a wealthy man she knew. This woman accompanied Araoz to Epstein's mansion a few times, where they spoke with Epstein about the young girl's desire to become a Broadway actress and the death of her father.
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Powerful politicians, Hollywood celebrities and members of the British royal family are likely very nervous right now as 2,000 pages detailing Jeffrey Epstein's crimes are set to be made public.
In Room 270, the records management unit, on the second floor of a courthouse in lower Manhattan, are currently holding 167 documents totaling more than 2,000 pages under lock and key. The documents are about to be unsealed and released publicly.
Telegraph.co.uk reports: The files contain explosive allegations in the case of Giuffre v Maxwell, in which Virginia Giuffre, a woman who claims to have been Jeffrey Epstein's teenage "sex slave", sued Ghislaine Maxwell, a British socialite and the billionaire's former girlfriend, for defamation.
The case was settled in May 2017 on the eve of the trial but the details were not disclosed and the final judgment and supporting documents were sealed, with the court noting the "highly sensitive nature of the underlying allegations."
According to other court documents that have been published, Ms Giuffre has made allegations of sexual abuse against "numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a wellknown Prime Minister, and other world leaders."
An appeal to unseal the rest of the documents was launched by the Miami Herald newspaper, which has spearheaded media investigations into Epstein. It was rejected three times.
But last month the US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit ordered their release, ruling that the public's right to know outweighed the privacy rights of the high-profile individuals named.
It what may be an indication of the fame of those individuals, the judges made a striking plea to the media to "exercise restraint" in reporting the allegations about to come to light. They also allowed parties involved to apply for minor redactions, delaying the release.
Another delay is possible as Miss Maxwell has launched an appeal to keep the documents sealed, her lawyers arguing that a full release would trigger a "furious feeding frenzy."
They wrote: "Plaintiff Giuffre made numerous allegations of sexual, if not criminal, conduct against a wide range of third parties. Because of the media no reference to anyone in this case is benign: a reference to any person is toxic and lethal to that person's reputation. Facts and truth are all but irrelevant."
The legal battle between Ms Giuffre and Miss Maxwell began in late 2014 when Ms Giuffre claimed that Epstein sexually abused her starting in 2000 when she was 16, with the "assistance and participation" of Miss Maxwell. She also made allegations against the Duke of York, which were categorically denied by Buckingham Palace......
Madman said:
Windows getting covered now. Is there a storm in the area?
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A young woman who says financier Jeffrey Epstein and socialite Ghislaine Maxwell kept her as a sex slave also accused a host of high-powered men of being involved in Epstein's alleged sex-trafficking ring, according to court records unsealed Friday.
Virginia Giuffre, who says that Epstein and Maxwell trafficked her to powerful people for erotic massages and sex, claimed in a 2016 deposition that Maxwell directed her to have sex with former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, Britain's Prince Andrew (whom she has accused before), wealthy financier Glenn Dubin, former senator George Mitchell, now-deceased MIT scientist Marvin Minsky, and modeling agent Jean-Luc Brunel, as well as "another prince" and the owner of a "large hotel chain" in France......
txaggie_08 said:
So what's going to happen now? With him being dead, is there a chance that everything could still be u covered, or is this going to drift off into obscurity now. Not happy about this, but not surprising he's been "suicided".
good call.mrad85 said:
I wouldn't take that bet.
With any luck Epstein knew exactly how much damning evidence was out there and knew he was a dead man anyway.txaggie_08 said:
So what's going to happen now? With him being dead, is there a chance that everything could still be u covered, or is this going to drift off into obscurity now. Not happy about this, but not surprising he's been "suicided".