***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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Clown show.

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74OA said:

Clown show.


Sanctions and attrition haven't affected Russia's capabilities at all.

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Small wonder that a premier multi-role aircraft is flying varied missions.

"About six months after they were first delivered, the Ukrainian F-16s are now being employed for both air defense and air-to-ground attack missions. In fact, after a recent video appeared to show an F-16 armed with bombs during a low pass, the first photo of a Viper (as the F-16 is nicknamed by its crews) armed with GBU-39 Small Diameter Bombs (SDB) has now emerged online."

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Ivan's air defenses that depleted or are the F-16s outsmarting them?
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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B-1 83 said:

Ivan's air defenses that depleted or are the F-16s outsmarting them?
Some of both, I suspect, particularly as the F-16's defensive EW system was significantly modernized just before delivery to Ukraine. Overflying Russian airspace is still far too dangerous, but its air defenses have been degraded enough for the Ukrainian air force to work much closer to the front.

In the meantime, Ukraine is working towards a drones-only frontline. "Ukraine has set out the goal of establishing a 15-kilometer unmanned "kill zone" along the front lines, which would see the most advanced Ukrainian drone units deploy a mix of surveillance and strike drones against Russian troops, according to government and defense-industry officials."

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74OA said:

Small wonder that a premier multi-role aircraft is flying varied missions.

"About six months after they were first delivered, the Ukrainian F-16s are now being employed for both air defense and air-to-ground attack missions. In fact, after a recent video appeared to show an F-16 armed with bombs during a low pass, the first photo of a Viper (as the F-16 is nicknamed by its crews) armed with GBU-39 Small Diameter Bombs (SDB) has now emerged online."

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Impossible. A certain Russian expert told us they have no air to ground capability
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74OA said:

B-1 83 said:

Ivan's air defenses that depleted or are the F-16s outsmarting them?
Some of both, I suspect, particularly as the F-16's defensive EW system was significantly modernized just before delivery to Ukraine. Overflying Russian airspace is still far too dangerous, but its air defenses have been degraded enough for the Ukrainian air force to work much closer to the front.

In the meantime, Ukraine is working towards a drones-only frontline. "Ukraine has set out the goal of establishing a 15-kilometer unmanned "kill zone" along the front lines, which would see the most advanced Ukrainian drone units deploy a mix of surveillance and strike drones against Russian troops, according to government and defense-industry officials."

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I knew when this war started it would finish completely different than when it started. In the beginning you had big expensive stuff moving around the battlefield and now we're moving to the inevitable drone swarm tactics.

Ukraine can pre-stage drones all across the front and re-task pilots as needed to different remote areas to control them. This lets them get by with less boots on the ground on the front lines. They can then move in reserves to assist in defending or taking land as needed (combined with the drones of course).
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around 90 F-16s should make for a fairly competent air capability especially mixed in with the old Soviet planes and however many Mirages they can get their hands on. Maybe even a some Gripens before it's all over.
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A side benefit of Putin's war is stealing Ukraine's vast mineral resources to resolve Russia's strategic shortfall.

"The leaked strategy documents underscore the extent of Russia's vulnerability in the global resource market. The country's declining self-sufficiency in essential minerals threatens its economic and strategic stability. As it grapples with a shrinking resource base and rising import dependence, Russia may face increasing difficulties in maintaining its industrial and military capabilities without significant foreign reliance."

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74OA said:

A side benefit The main purpose of Putin's war is stealing Ukraine's vast mineral resources to resolve Russia's strategic shortfall.

"The leaked strategy documents underscore the extent of Russia's vulnerability in the global resource market. The country's declining self-sufficiency in essential minerals threatens its economic and strategic stability. As it grapples with a shrinking resource base and rising import dependence, Russia may face increasing difficulties in maintaining its industrial and military capabilities without significant foreign reliance."

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FIFY
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txags92 said:

74OA said:

A side benefit The main purpose of Putin's war is stealing Ukraine's vast mineral resources to resolve Russia's strategic shortfall.

"The leaked strategy documents underscore the extent of Russia's vulnerability in the global resource market. The country's declining self-sufficiency in essential minerals threatens its economic and strategic stability. As it grapples with a shrinking resource base and rising import dependence, Russia may face increasing difficulties in maintaining its industrial and military capabilities without significant foreign reliance."

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Not really. What Putin the dictator fears the most is the hugely subversive example of a free, prosperous and democratic Ukraine on his doorstep for all Russians to observe as an alternative to his authoritarian rule.

Stealing Ukraine's land, wealth and population and fueling the fiction of recreating Greater Russia are all just bonuses to his primary goal of shielding his own people from becoming infected with Ukraine's political virus.
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Fighting the drone war in Ukraine on the electromagnetic spectrum. How drones are continually evolving.

"The new war exposed vulnerabilities in Russia's extremely powerful but bulky EW systems, which became liabilities lying within FPV drone range. They were forced to retreat a full 10-15km away from the front line, diluting their effect. Meanwhile, Ukraine began to make progress expanding its own EW capacity, with local producers scaling up production of trench-level EW systems."

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When people ask what Ukraine could bring to NATO, it's this right here:
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For now, most drones are still jammable. And Ukraine still has the edge in EW. "They're certainly quicker than the Russians," says Mr Withington. The war has also made them quicker than many Western competitors. Mr Filimonov visited 15 military exhibitions around the world last year. The EW technology he saw was not only pricierAmerican and European amplifiers are two to three times more expensive than the Chinese ones commonly found in Ukrainian kitbut also obsolete. "These technologies are somewhere in 2021," he says, witheringly. "Everything they are producing is, for the moment, useless on the front line."


They're already living and fighting the next war. We're still living in the past. If we want to be prepared for a near peer conflict, we need this kind of expertise. War gaming against Ukraine and learning how to fight and adapt in the EW space is likely to prove critical when fighting a country like China that can crank out EW equipment cheaper and faster.
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ABATTBQ11 said:

When people ask what Ukraine could bring to NATO, it's this right here:
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For now, most drones are still jammable. And Ukraine still has the edge in EW. "They're certainly quicker than the Russians," says Mr Withington. The war has also made them quicker than many Western competitors. Mr Filimonov visited 15 military exhibitions around the world last year. The EW technology he saw was not only pricierAmerican and European amplifiers are two to three times more expensive than the Chinese ones commonly found in Ukrainian kitbut also obsolete. "These technologies are somewhere in 2021," he says, witheringly. "Everything they are producing is, for the moment, useless on the front line."


They're already living and fighting the next war. We're still living in the past. If we want to be prepared for a near peer conflict, we need this kind of expertise. War gaming against Ukraine and learning how to fight and adapt in the EW space is likely to prove critical when fighting a country like China that can crank out EW equipment cheaper and faster.
Along with gutting the Russian military, this insight is Ukraine's gift to us. Better to adapt now while we have time to do so in an orderly fashion, rather than willy-nilly in the middle of a big fight of our own.

So, while it might not be apparent, many of DOD's current acquisition and logistics decisions today are being driven by lesson's learned from Ukraine, along with developing fresh TT&P for field operations under these new combat conditions.

Having said that, not everything pertinent to Putin's War applies equally to us. We operate the finest air force on the planet, for example, and many of Ukraine's clever adaptations are to overcome its lack of meaningful air power.

I don't want to derail but, as just one illustration, here's a three-part series on some of the ways the Army is adjusting to new combat reality. Much the same change applies to all the Services:

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We do have a very capable air force, but it is highly vulnerable on the ground. In a conflict with China, we won't have very many places to operate from, and we will likely be at a naval disadvantage that pushes carriers out to sea. China also has what might be a very capable air force. We cannot assume that we will have air dominance or air superiority in the next fight. We could very well be in Ukraine's shoes the next time we're on a war.
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ABATTBQ11 said:

We do have a very capable air force, but it is highly vulnerable on the ground. In a conflict with China, we won't have very many places to operate from, and we will likely be at a naval disadvantage that pushes carriers out to sea. China also has what might be a very capable air force. We cannot assume that we will have air dominance or air superiority in the next fight. We could very well be in Ukraine's shoes the next time we're on a war.
I'm not making any assumptions and nor is USAF, just pointing out that not everything from Ukraine's fight is directly applicable to us. Start a conversation over on "Military" if you'd like to discuss more.

Here's an example of an Air Force change-related post already over there. BASING
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There are reports that 8 Russian drone operators were severely injured but Russia says not true.
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https://kyivindependent.com/merz-voices-support-for-ukraine-ahead-of-elections/
The potential new German chancellor appears to be more aggressive than Scholz on helping Ukraine. Apparently he is the front runner to win but Elon Musk is rallying hard for a more pro Russian candidate. Makes you wonder? Maybe Ukraine can get those Taurus missiles after all.
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Ukraine is apparently close to signing a deal for minerals with the US although it isn't exactly clear what it will get from the US in exchange for providing the minerals, followed by updates from the front line.

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