Y'all can and of course will think what you wish, but I have to believe that this is one of the most impressive 47D chess moves in all of recorded history.
agent-maroon said:
How many issues can last night's Venezuelan mission help to resolve? It reduces the illegal drug flow into our country. It opens the world's largest known oil reserves to the global market once more, which should theoretically lower world price for oil to a level below what russia can profitably extract it from the ground. Without oil money, russia's economy will collapse and they will be forced to abandon the war with Ukraine.
Y'all can and of course will think what you wish, but I have to believe that this is one of the most impressive 47D chess moves in all of recorded history.
The dead VDV from Hostomel seeing the U.S. conduct a successful 3 hour heliborne special military operation. pic.twitter.com/prLNH1JTWX
— Oliver Alexander (@OAlexanderDK) January 3, 2026
Brutal pic.twitter.com/ApDu8cOczb
— Havoc (@Havoc_Six) January 3, 2026
Major drone attack currently underway against the Russian capital of Moscow, with all airports across the city currently closed to arriving and departing flights, many diverting to other airports in Eastern Europe.
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) January 3, 2026
74OA said:Who?mikejones! said:74OA said:
Ukraine's fate in 2026 will define the world we will live in. This is the reason why the war's outcome will affect every American.
"The Ukraine war is the ultimate test case because it is not merely a border dispute. It is a referendum on whether conquest is back-openly, unapologetically-in 21st-century geopolitics.
If Russia is allowed to seize territory by brute force and then, after sufficient destruction, have that seizure ratified through Western pressure on the victim, Ukraine, the lesson will echo far beyond Europe. It will be heard in every capital that lives in the shadow of a stronger neighbor, and especially so in an Asia increasingly dominated by China.
The rules-based international order will not be abolished with a speech. It will be hollowed out by precedent."
FATE
Okay, but who is going to get the land back?
The point is that the West must not "ratify" (i.e. legitimize) Russia's land seizure regardless of whether Ukraine ever recovers what has been lost. Russia wants international recognition of its theft as a condition for peace and that would be a precedent that encourages other tyrants.
After Israeli F-35s laughed at Russian air defence systems in Iran, and now this, it is a safe conclusion that we can re-assess every war game predicting 30%+ air casualties against the Russians.
— Andrew Fox (@Mr_Andrew_Fox) January 3, 2026
NATO air power rips Russia apart on the spot. Huge 2nd/3rd order effects from that. pic.twitter.com/UnM726hA9q
Venezuela, among other things, has Russian Igla-S MANPADs. About 5,000 missiles. They are designed to, for example, shoot down helicopters
— Russians With Attitude (@RWApodcast) January 3, 2026
Not a single Igla-S has been fired. It's an even more spectacular circus than Fordow pic.twitter.com/YLy3JuoxML
Following a brief lull in activity, likely due to weather conditions, Russian strategic aviation is back on the move and have completed their preparations for the next combined missile and drone attack on Ukraine.
— AMK Mapping 🇳🇿 (@AMK_Mapping_) January 4, 2026
- 4 Tu-95MS strategic bombers redeployed from Ukrainka Airbase,…
Saint Igla of Caracas, protector of nothing in particular. pic.twitter.com/MmpyYXsRgk
— Air Power (@RealAirPower1) January 3, 2026
agent-maroon said:
How many issues can last night's Venezuelan mission help to resolve? It reduces the illegal drug flow into our country. It opens the world's largest known oil reserves to the global market once more, which should theoretically lower world price for oil to a level below what russia can profitably extract it from the ground. Without oil money, russia's economy will collapse and they will be forced to abandon the war with Ukraine.
Y'all can and of course will think what you wish, but I have to believe that this is one of the most impressive 47D chess moves in all of recorded history.
KentK93 said:74OA said:Who?mikejones! said:74OA said:
Ukraine's fate in 2026 will define the world we will live in. This is the reason why the war's outcome will affect every American.
"The Ukraine war is the ultimate test case because it is not merely a border dispute. It is a referendum on whether conquest is back-openly, unapologetically-in 21st-century geopolitics.
If Russia is allowed to seize territory by brute force and then, after sufficient destruction, have that seizure ratified through Western pressure on the victim, Ukraine, the lesson will echo far beyond Europe. It will be heard in every capital that lives in the shadow of a stronger neighbor, and especially so in an Asia increasingly dominated by China.
The rules-based international order will not be abolished with a speech. It will be hollowed out by precedent."
FATE
Okay, but who is going to get the land back?
The point is that the West must not "ratify" (i.e. legitimize) Russia's land seizure regardless of whether Ukraine ever recovers what has been lost. Russia wants international recognition of its theft as a condition for peace and that would be a precedent that encourages other tyrants.
So what is your solution? Because no country from Europe or USA is going to send troops to take back that land. The best we can do is to stop the war like the Korean War. Get a demilitarized zone and make Ukraine a porcupine. Get them to clean up the corruption and build their economy like South Korea did.
B-1 83 said:KentK93 said:74OA said:Who?mikejones! said:74OA said:
Ukraine's fate in 2026 will define the world we will live in. This is the reason why the war's outcome will affect every American.
"The Ukraine war is the ultimate test case because it is not merely a border dispute. It is a referendum on whether conquest is back-openly, unapologetically-in 21st-century geopolitics.
If Russia is allowed to seize territory by brute force and then, after sufficient destruction, have that seizure ratified through Western pressure on the victim, Ukraine, the lesson will echo far beyond Europe. It will be heard in every capital that lives in the shadow of a stronger neighbor, and especially so in an Asia increasingly dominated by China.
The rules-based international order will not be abolished with a speech. It will be hollowed out by precedent."
FATE
Okay, but who is going to get the land back?
The point is that the West must not "ratify" (i.e. legitimize) Russia's land seizure regardless of whether Ukraine ever recovers what has been lost. Russia wants international recognition of its theft as a condition for peace and that would be a precedent that encourages other tyrants.
So what is your solution? Because no country from Europe or USA is going to send troops to take back that land. The best we can do is to stop the war like the Korean War. Get a demilitarized zone and make Ukraine a porcupine. Get them to clean up the corruption and build their economy like South Korea did.
Im good with that.
Ex-MANPADS operator - it stil requires for the target to fly straight in front of the drone and for quite some time and quite close.
— Andrzej (@Andrzej94491984) January 4, 2026
Sonin practice a drone would need to maneuver like a fighter to chase the aircraft with its nose.
The US will gain access to Russian weapons in Venezuela, enabling countermeasures to be shared with Ukraine.
— WarMonitor🇺🇦🇬🇧 (@WarMonitor3) January 4, 2026
KentK93 said:B-1 83 said:KentK93 said:74OA said:Who?mikejones! said:74OA said:
Ukraine's fate in 2026 will define the world we will live in. This is the reason why the war's outcome will affect every American.
"The Ukraine war is the ultimate test case because it is not merely a border dispute. It is a referendum on whether conquest is back-openly, unapologetically-in 21st-century geopolitics.
If Russia is allowed to seize territory by brute force and then, after sufficient destruction, have that seizure ratified through Western pressure on the victim, Ukraine, the lesson will echo far beyond Europe. It will be heard in every capital that lives in the shadow of a stronger neighbor, and especially so in an Asia increasingly dominated by China.
The rules-based international order will not be abolished with a speech. It will be hollowed out by precedent."
FATE
Okay, but who is going to get the land back?
The point is that the West must not "ratify" (i.e. legitimize) Russia's land seizure regardless of whether Ukraine ever recovers what has been lost. Russia wants international recognition of its theft as a condition for peace and that would be a precedent that encourages other tyrants.
So what is your solution? Because no country from Europe or USA is going to send troops to take back that land. The best we can do is to stop the war like the Korean War. Get a demilitarized zone and make Ukraine a porcupine. Get them to clean up the corruption and build their economy like South Korea did.
Im good with that.
Same here! Korea is the model and it works but got to get people to point where they realize this is the only solution.
Who?mikejones! said:
Except, absent the other country's money and resources, the neighbor would kill all your family and take all your yard, house and dog. Further, theres no way to pay back the country for all the resources you're taking.
Rossticus said:The US will gain access to Russian weapons in Venezuela, enabling countermeasures to be shared with Ukraine.
— WarMonitor🇺🇦🇬🇧 (@WarMonitor3) January 4, 2026
GAC06 said:Rossticus said:The US will gain access to Russian weapons in Venezuela, enabling countermeasures to be shared with Ukraine.
— WarMonitor🇺🇦🇬🇧 (@WarMonitor3) January 4, 2026
I doubt there's much to learn, especially after four years of exploitation from Ukraine.
Also, we aren't even in control there yet
74OA said:
Ukraine's fate in 2026 will define the world we will live in. This is the reason why the war's outcome will affect every American.
"The Ukraine war is the ultimate test case because it is not merely a border dispute. It is a referendum on whether conquest is back-openly, unapologetically-in 21st-century geopolitics.
If Russia is allowed to seize territory by brute force and then, after sufficient destruction, have that seizure ratified through Western pressure on the victim, Ukraine, the lesson will echo far beyond Europe. It will be heard in every capital that lives in the shadow of a stronger neighbor, and especially so in an Asia increasingly dominated by China.
The rules-based international order will not be abolished with a speech. It will be hollowed out by precedent."
FATE
Quote:
If Russia is allowed to seize territory by brute force and then, after sufficient destruction, have that seizure ratified through Western pressure on the victim, Ukraine, the lesson will echo far beyond Europe. It will be heard in every capital that lives in the shadow of a stronger neighbor and especially so in an Asia increasingly dominated by China. The rules-based international order will not be abolished with a speech. It will be hollowed out by precedent.
And if, on the other hand, Ukraine emerges in 2026 with a settlement that is genuinely defensible one that does not invite a rematch, one that provides long-term security serious enough to unlock reconstruction and investment then the West will have shown that deterrence is still possible, that alliances still mean something and that rogue powers cannot simply outlast democratic attention spans.
Ryzyko zmasowanego, nocnego rosyjskiego ataku określam jako maksymalnie wysokie. https://t.co/H9d8aD2lII
— Artur Micek (@Artur_Micek) January 4, 2026
Ag with kids said:74OA said:
Ukraine's fate in 2026 will define the world we will live in. This is the reason why the war's outcome will affect every American.
"The Ukraine war is the ultimate test case because it is not merely a border dispute. It is a referendum on whether conquest is back-openly, unapologetically-in 21st-century geopolitics.
If Russia is allowed to seize territory by brute force and then, after sufficient destruction, have that seizure ratified through Western pressure on the victim, Ukraine, the lesson will echo far beyond Europe. It will be heard in every capital that lives in the shadow of a stronger neighbor, and especially so in an Asia increasingly dominated by China.
The rules-based international order will not be abolished with a speech. It will be hollowed out by precedent."
FATEQuote:
If Russia is allowed to seize territory by brute force and then, after sufficient destruction, have that seizure ratified through Western pressure on the victim, Ukraine, the lesson will echo far beyond Europe. It will be heard in every capital that lives in the shadow of a stronger neighbor and especially so in an Asia increasingly dominated by China. The rules-based international order will not be abolished with a speech. It will be hollowed out by precedent.
And if, on the other hand, Ukraine emerges in 2026 with a settlement that is genuinely defensible one that does not invite a rematch, one that provides long-term security serious enough to unlock reconstruction and investment then the West will have shown that deterrence is still possible, that alliances still mean something and that rogue powers cannot simply outlast democratic attention spans.
So, is Fareed stating that if the settlement happens and involves the seizure of territory it's unacceptable?
Those 2 paragraphs are mutually exclusive if any territory is transferred based on how he phrases the first paragraph.
That means, that this war will have to continue until Ukraine gets back every single inch of territory for it to be a "
settlement that is genuinely defensible"....
74OA said:Ag with kids said:74OA said:
Ukraine's fate in 2026 will define the world we will live in. This is the reason why the war's outcome will affect every American.
"The Ukraine war is the ultimate test case because it is not merely a border dispute. It is a referendum on whether conquest is back-openly, unapologetically-in 21st-century geopolitics.
If Russia is allowed to seize territory by brute force and then, after sufficient destruction, have that seizure ratified through Western pressure on the victim, Ukraine, the lesson will echo far beyond Europe. It will be heard in every capital that lives in the shadow of a stronger neighbor, and especially so in an Asia increasingly dominated by China.
The rules-based international order will not be abolished with a speech. It will be hollowed out by precedent."
FATEQuote:
If Russia is allowed to seize territory by brute force and then, after sufficient destruction, have that seizure ratified through Western pressure on the victim, Ukraine, the lesson will echo far beyond Europe. It will be heard in every capital that lives in the shadow of a stronger neighbor and especially so in an Asia increasingly dominated by China. The rules-based international order will not be abolished with a speech. It will be hollowed out by precedent.
And if, on the other hand, Ukraine emerges in 2026 with a settlement that is genuinely defensible one that does not invite a rematch, one that provides long-term security serious enough to unlock reconstruction and investment then the West will have shown that deterrence is still possible, that alliances still mean something and that rogue powers cannot simply outlast democratic attention spans.
So, is Fareed stating that if the settlement happens and involves the seizure of territory it's unacceptable?
Those 2 paragraphs are mutually exclusive if any territory is transferred based on how he phrases the first paragraph.
That means, that this war will have to continue until Ukraine gets back every single inch of territory for it to be a "
settlement that is genuinely defensible"....
Read it again. He says if the West "ratifies" the land seizure by pressuring Ukraine into accepting its loss against its will that will encourage other tyrant's aggression. It is up to Ukraine alone to decide what sort of deal it can live with.
W powietrzu są już :
— Artur Micek (@Artur_Micek) January 4, 2026
- 4 bombowce Tu-22
- 3 bombowce Tu-160
- 8 bombowców Tu-95
- 4 myśliwce MiG-31K
Do startu szykują się co najmniej 2 Tu-160, 2 Tu-95 i prawdopodobnie kolejne 4 MiG-31K.
All of Ukraine is currently under an air raid alert, as Russia launches yet another major drone and missile attack tonight against the country, with over a dozen long-range bombers airborne along with several MiG-31Ks, likely carrying Kh-47M2 “Kinzhal” Air-Launched Ballistic… pic.twitter.com/Tj8NCtMD5g
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) January 4, 2026
Kyiv has just been hit with something big... Update coming...
— WarMonitor🇺🇦🇬🇧 (@WarMonitor3) January 5, 2026
Myśliwce MiG-31K wracają na lotnisko Sawaslejka. Są uzbrojone w pociski Kindżał. Coś poszło ewidentnie nie tak dla Rosjan skoro zdecydowali się na taki ruch.
— Artur Micek (@Artur_Micek) January 4, 2026
Nad Czernihowem rozległa się potężna eksplozja. Według relacji Ukraińcy czymś trafili pocisk Iskander nad miastem.
— Artur Micek (@Artur_Micek) January 5, 2026
Ballistic missiles are striking Chernihiv city/region Ukraine
— WarMonitor🇺🇦🇬🇧 (@WarMonitor3) January 5, 2026
W Kijów trafiły 3 pociski balistyczne Iskander.
— Artur Micek (@Artur_Micek) January 5, 2026
W Czernihów co najmniej 2 pociski balistyczne Iskander.