University of Idaho - 4 college students murdered

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Over the next 50 or so years, yeah, he will be. You can only spend so much of your life in that small of a space with that many things to do before boredom sets in. Even if he has access to the prison library and computer lab, it sounds like it's only for an hour a day. Even with TV and basic cable or a tablet in his cell, do you really think that wouldn't get old after decades?

Again, his privileges while in prison will be determined by his behavior and his safety concerns, not his crimes.

He can make his time harder or easier on himself.
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Again, even with privileges, that's not a lot to do in a small space day in and day out for the next few decades of his life.
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I don't think he can afford four life sentences.
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Moscow PD will put up a website where they publish police reports.

Steve G said that Kaylee was stabbed 34 times and a second weapon was used on her

That location was specifically picked, but any reason or specific target is speculation
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What was the second weapon??
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I just finished The Idaho Four by James Patterson.

Interestingly, even though it came out weeks after the plea agreement, there was no mention of it in the book. It ends with the assumption of an impending trial.

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Anti-taxxer said:

What was the second weapon??


Police wouldn't answer but did say that they believe all for victims were stabbed with the same knife.

Steve Goncalves said that police told him after the gag was released there was a second weapon. I'm thinking something like 5.11 tactical gloves.
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I have not followed the case much. What was ultimately the motive/reason for him killing the four students?
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Artorias said:

I have not followed the case much. What was ultimately the motive/reason for him killing the four students?


Unknown. Other than his being a sociopath, that is.
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I THINK he went there to K Maddie but Kaylee was in the room. Wasnt expecting 2. Got distracted and dropped the sheath when he ran after Xana. I truly think Xana went upstairs and he chased her to her room.
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Guitarsoup said:

Steve G said that Kaylee was stabbed 34 times and a second weapon was used on her


If you listen to her sisters entire statement today, one of her questions to BK is "what was the second weapon". Hadn't heard of that until then.
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agcrock2005 said:

Guitarsoup said:

Steve G said that Kaylee was stabbed 34 times and a second weapon was used on her


If you listen to her sisters entire statement today, one of her questions to BK is "what was the second weapon". Hadn't heard of that until then.


The family only found that out a few days ago when the judge lifted the gag order
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BK used special software to wipe all his devices. They were still able to find some evidence on the devices
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Artorias said:

I have not followed the case much. What was ultimately the motive/reason for him killing the four students?


Not officially, but I believe that he targeted Maddie. I think he thought he'd find her alone in her bedroom and when he didn't, he killed the other girl. She was actually just there for the weekend.

I think the other girl who had ordered a food delivery that arrived sadly right about that exact time he entered the home or just after he had killed the other girls, was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I think if she and her boyfriend had been in their bedroom, I don't think he would've gone in there and killed them. But who knows.

The other two girls were not harmed. He clearly saw the other girl and said something to her, but chose not to hurt her. I guess he felt he had done what he wanted to do. I still do not understand why they didn't call the cops when she knew she had seen a strange man in the house. Even if drunk, that was very weird behavior. I hope it doesn't come out that any of them might've survived if medical help had gotten there earlier, but I think they all died pretty quickly.

Of course this is just speculation. Past that he was just a really weird pervert, psycho quite frankly. He had had issues with women before and the way he was rude to them and treated them, and I'm sure he was not very popular with women so frustration may have played into it? I saw one thing I believe on the program on Peacock, where a girl had met up with him for a date off of Tinder or something, and said he was very weird and very odd at her house, asked very strange questions and she finally just said she didn't feel good and asked him to leave.

Then he sent her a text message after that saying something very bizarre as well. I can't remember what it was, but it was really weird. I can't figure out why someone even on Tinder looking at a face like that would wanna meet up with him. He's an odd looking dude.
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MsDoubleD81 said:

I THINK he went there to K Maddie but Kaylee was in the room. Wasnt expecting 2. Got distracted and dropped the sheath when he ran after Xana. I truly think Xana went upstairs and he chased her to her room.

I agree. Has she not just gone down to get the food delivery, I don't think he would've gone in their bedroom. And the boyfriend was asleep. He never saw it coming.
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ABATTBQ11 said:

Again, even with privileges, that's not a lot to do in a small space day in and day out for the next few decades of his life.

I have no plans to be, but if I was ever sentenced to life in prison, I honestly think I would kill myself. You're talking in some cases, possibly decades of this. Not that I feel sorry for them. Suicide is not anything that I would ever consider doing for any other reason. That's why I find it so odd that so many people fight the death penalty. If I'm truly convicted, I'd rather have the death penalty. Let the automatic appeal go through and then be done with it. But even then, sometimes they get 20-30+ years before they're executed. I think that's ridiculous.
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He said she had "Good Birthing Hips"
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Swan Song said:

He said she had "Good Birthing Hips"

That's what it was. I couldn't remember, but it was like OK, weirdo. Especially since it was pretty obvious she had just kicked him out. But then again he's such a weirdo maybe he didn't get it. But that is not something you should text someone after any kind of date good or bad.
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Agree. Not normal.
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Swan Song said:

He said she had "Good Birthing Hips"


That's the exact line I used to get my wife. Must've been his delivery.
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I can't figure out why someone even on Tinder looking at a face like that would wanna meet up with him. He's an odd looking dude.

Is that the girl from South Korea? Or someone else?
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Posted on the PD website that has since crashed.

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Yeah, this guy is a psychopath who is also almost certainly on the spectrum. There is no explanation or reason anyone can understand. He's just broken and evil AF
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Officer and witness got the victims mixed up because they were so badly injured and couldn't accurately identify them. The deceased person he's referring to is actually Xana, not Kaylee.
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I'm trying to read all the docs on Facebook but my eyes are too old!
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AtticusMatlock said:

Officer and witness got the victims mixed up because they were so badly injured and couldn't accurately identify them. The deceased person he's referring to is actually Xana, not Kaylee.

I'm confused. Kaylee was in the same room with Maddie and they were both blonde.

Xana was a brunette.
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aggiehawg said:

AtticusMatlock said:

Officer and witness got the victims mixed up because they were so badly injured and couldn't accurately identify them. The deceased person he's referring to is actually Xana, not Kaylee.

I'm confused. Kaylee was in the same room with Maddie and they were both blonde.

Xana was a brunette.

He was clearly describing Xana from her location next to Ethan, and he was unclear of which roommate was which regardless of hair color. He was dealing with four dead bodies, so getting the wrong name for the wrong victim is easily understandable.
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torrid said:

aggiehawg said:

AtticusMatlock said:

Officer and witness got the victims mixed up because they were so badly injured and couldn't accurately identify them. The deceased person he's referring to is actually Xana, not Kaylee.

I'm confused. Kaylee was in the same room with Maddie and they were both blonde.

Xana was a brunette.

He was clearly describing Xana from her location next to Ethan, and he was unclear of which roommate was which regardless of hair color. He was dealing with four dead bodies, so getting the wrong name for the wrong victim is easily understandable.

I understand his confusion but who were the "witnesses" that made the IDs?
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Video of Dylan's victim impact statement.

It's understandably a very emotional statement and difficult to listen to at times. The part where she said she had a dream where she finally got to say goodbye really got to me. Also about describing him as a hollow vessel, exactly describing his appearance in court staring off into space trying to pretend he's not hearing anything.

I know this was very difficult for her, but I think is important she said it herself in open court. In front of him. I think she expressed herself very well. She's obviously had almost three years to think about what she was going to say.

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I watched a little bit of today's victim impact statements. Too sad and emotional.
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aggiehawg said:

I watched a little bit of today's victim impact statements. Too sad and emotional.

I still suggest watching it. This may sound silly, but having followed this closely for almost three years I sense quite a bit of closure from it. Especially at the end where she says she gets to go on and live her life while he will be empty and forgotten.
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This guy is reading all the reports.

https://www.youtube.com/live/XJe2Yzfup1M?si=ABMZVqko8HdgDQxP
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torrid said:

aggiehawg said:

I watched a little bit of today's victim impact statements. Too sad and emotional.

I still suggest watching it. This may sound silly, but having followed this closely for almost three years I sense quite a bit of closure from it. Especially at the end where she says she gets to go on and live her life while he will be empty and forgotten.

I got closure with the plea deal. Don't get me wrong here because I would have been glued to this trial for however long it took. Just to see and hear the evidence. And then the ultimate question about the death penalty (which I support in general, BTW) and how that was played out or not played out in court.

For the people who spoke today, I pray they have a type of closure for themselves. Almost impossible in some respects but hopefully some release.

I was watching EDB's stream and she was having trouble keeping it in. And she has been through hundreds and hundreds of these days, as a prosecutor.

The main reason I watched what I did today was just to see if BK ever looked down, averted his eyes. See if he had an ounce of remorse, or any feeling at all. Any comprehension.

He did not. He will go certifiable at some point in the future, is my prediction. He's been in County detention since December 2022. County ain't like state max security prison. He'll either end up dead, by his own hand, or in a rubber room in a strait jacket is my guess.
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State charges. State inmate.

He's in Idaho for the rest of his life.
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aggiehawg said:

I watched a little bit of today's victim impact statements. Too sad and emotional.

I thought it was odd that they had victim allocutions prior to sentencing. We do it after sentencing.
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