This is what a corrupt DOJ and dim party media machine look like...

It's exactly the bull**** dims pull when inviting the EPA to be sued over environmental issues so they can pay out awards to their own benefactors. A complete lack of honesty or integrity.

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WASHINGTON (AP) Former President Donald Trump can be sued by injured Capitol Police officers and Democratic lawmakers over the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, the Justice Department said Thursday in a federal court case testing Trump's legal vulnerability for his speech before the riot.

In court papers, the Justice Department urged a federal appeals court in Washington to allow the lawsuits to move forward, writing that "no part of a President's official responsibilities includes the incitement of imminent private violence."

The Justice Department said it took no position on the lawsuits' claims that the former president's words incited the attack on the Capitol. Nevertheless, Justice Department lawyers said the court should reject Trump's argument that "absolutely immunity" shields him from being sued because the remarks were in line with his official duties.

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more at link

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Trump!!!!!

Is literally their entire platform now since otherwise they'd have to try and run on their record of governance

Waffledynamics said:

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They're going to try to find any way to keep Trump and January 6th in people's heads. Get used to it.

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Jan 6th is the 'Christmas Day' for the Dem religion of fringe leftism.

I don't think the DOJ gets to decide who can sue whom. OP highlighted wrong paragraph. The DOJ was in an appeals court not granting an authority but was PLEADING with the judiciary to take UNPRECEDENTED steps against a CANDIDATE for POTUS.

This is why libs can never ever be trusted or allowed to hold office again. They think this is just fine.

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In court papers, the Justice Department urged a federal appeals court in Washington to allow the lawsuits to move forward, writing that "no part of a President's official responsibilities includes the incitement of imminent private violence."

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And whomever over there thinks his absolute immunity is limited has not read or does not understand the US Constitution.

President is immune from the law during office outside of impeachment, treason and I believe the emoluments clause.

Source: US Constitution

Case History: NONE. Let the Dems try it. That would be the end of the Republic.

Trump was president on Jan 6. So if you can sue politicians now then we need to sue everyone of them that racked up $31 trillion dollars of debt and everyone of them for the Social Security Ponzi scheme and and everyone of them for not securing our borders.

Dept. of "Justice" my ass. Do they have an understanding or working definition of the word or is this just the latest Orwellian dystopian newspeak?

fka ftc said:

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We live in a world where we have Schiff lying with no retribution in order to usurp the Executive. Biden has lied for 50 years. Pelosi, liar.

Yet Trump has an opinion, whether unsubstantiated or not, and not only do they want to lock him up, but locked up folks with him, tried to lock up congress, wants DOJ to lock up anyone with a MAGA hat then think these louses can sue sitting President?

**** right the **** off libs. Take time and read the US Constitution then study the Founding Fathers.

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Biden aborted a Presidential run for lying. That's (D)ifferent now though.

Doesn't the FACT that there were Feds involved with the "rioters" make lawsuits against President Trump, FRIVOLOUS?

#LiberalismIsAMentalDisease

He asked for a peaceful protest.

So, let's sue Biden and Kamala for the BLM and Antifa riots that they both encouraged, egged on and raised bail for the criminals.

Democrats snd AD snd DOJ still scared ****-less of Trump!

Can't wait to see Trump's lawyers request a "joinder" to add the DOJ and FBI as proper parties to each civil lawsuit.

"The defendant also has the option of joining an additional person as a defendant. The test for permissive joinder of parties is whether the lawsuit raises a question of law or fact common to all parties and whether some right to relief relating to the same event is asserted on behalf of each plaintiff and against each defendant."

When that happens, the attorneys in the "discovery" phase of the case can obtain the identity of the "infiltrators" and "instigators" and discover the tactics used by the DOJ and FBI things they fight to keep secret.

Pandora's Box once opened cannot be fully closed after this occurs.

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Who in history has been gone after longer and harder than Trump?

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We are in year 84 of using Hitler as the go-to bad guy, and he's been dead for 78 of those.

I think that Pharoh, Judas, Atilla, and Genghis Khan still get hate.

This is what occurs in communist countries.

lol, Nobody got harmed by insurrectionist >$2 damage for bandaid cost. Wah.

mjschiller said:

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This is what occurs in communist countries.

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Yes.

Have you seen who is PotUS!?

5StarShield said:

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Can business owners sue Dem leaders for helping incite the BLM riots? Or famous folks that offered to pay bail for rioters?

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This. We have a VP who donated money to let the thugs and thuglets out.

CDUB98 said:

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I'm so sick of the lie that Trump incited a riot.

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Just that one? The real crime is what the democrats did to him.

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And whomever over there thinks his absolute immunity is limited has not read or does not understand the US Constitution.

President is immune from the law during office outside of impeachment, treason and I believe the emoluments clause.

Source: US Constitution

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you are wrong about this. even Trump's attorney's aren't arguing there is absolute immunity for anything a president does. its a broad immunity, meant even to protect things on the outer perimeter of a president's official duties, but there could be exceptions.

the president is not immune from the law. this is a civil suit, so has nothing to do with "high crimes and misdemeanors" that relates to criminal activity and abuse or violation of the public trust. constitution does not mention civil case immunity, it stems from separation of powers.

a president has absolute immunity from civil suit related to his official acts and role as president. if a president walks into the denver post office and says "all of the jews and blacks are fired" he can't be sued personally for that. if he takes his car out for a late night taco bell run and side swipes someone, he could be.


for purposes of the lawsuit, the court is to take well plead allegations as true. so lets say for a moment Trump was inciting a riot or insurrection (which is funny because at oath keepers trial, it was learned that those people actually doing an insurrection were mad Trump didn't give them the go ahead). This was all done in Trump's last speech as president talking about election security. That is clearly within the outer perimeter of his official acts.


this DoJ brief is funny. It claims its not taking a position on the merits, but then does just that. It doesn't set forth any law that wasn't already cited by both the plaintiffs and Trump, or that wasn't already known to the Court. Instead it tries to act like its just reciting its position on the law, when its really trying to shoehorn specific facts into the case law. not surprising from a leftist DOJ

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Who in history has been gone after longer and harder than Trump?

We going on 8-years of them going full tilt after one guy. Crazy to think about.

Only analogy I can think of is where they exiled Napoleon to one one the most remote places in the world to live out his life on Saint Helena island off the coast of Africa.

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8 years and NOTHING.
Ask yourself why. Because he is a threat to the corrupt and ineffective establishment.
And that's exactly why he needs to be POTUS again.

Who will be the first to sue? AOC?

The one thing you can be sure of is that Trump is " BULLET PROOF " with no assets in his name. His personal net worth is probably about zero ! Trump's demand for "Discovery " will be interesting !

oysterbayAG said:

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The one thing you can be sure of is that Trump is " BULLET PROOF " with no assets in his name. His personal net worth is probably about zero ! Trump's demand for "Discovery " will be interesting !

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huh?

Trump has tons of personal net worth. You don't think he has ownership interest in all of his companies?